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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:27 am
Alright, so, as well as being an anime fan I'm also a furry. I like to fursuit, I'm better at it than cosplaying and plan to suit at possibly Metrocon.
I would like to take a moment to see what the general reaction is to Furries (fursuiters in specific) At anime conventions.
If you are unaware of what a fursuiter is you should take a gander at this link : http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Fursuiter
I surveyed a group of furries on livejournal who said they had over all good experiances, it was even one of those furries who urged me to go to Metrocon. I would, however, like to get the other side's point of view as well. Please be honest, even if you don't think I'll like what you have to say, as I would truthfully like an unsheltered view of your thoughts an opinions. Below, I have a couple of questions I would like you to take the time to answer.
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? 2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions 3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? 4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter?
Thank you for your time and I hope to get an unskewered opinion from you guys =3 Don't worry about hurting my feelings XD I'm reseliant, I just wanted to get an atleast semi-acurate view fromt he other side, sence I've gotten the opinions from furries.
PS: this is the character I will be bringing as a suit: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Mir_(Katir)
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:53 pm
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters?: Never have I seeen something like this O_o But I do like it^^ 2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions: If I saw one I think I'd want a picture XD But I wouldn't mind at all. 3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters?: I really don't think it matters as long as the person wearing likes it. 4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter?:I would give them a hug^^......and want a picture ._.
p.s. I love this idea. I'd never heard of it 'till now. (shocking yes ._.) But still awesome
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:27 pm
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? Dont mind them, give them much respect for doing it but as long as they dont be assholes to others.
2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions? I dont mind 3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? nope
4) How would you react if approched by a fursuiter? compliment them on their outfit.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:59 am
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? a: They're ok. No problems with them.
2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions a: Nope, they're just cosplayers to me to an extent.
3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? a: nope
4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter? a: give em a hug and take a picture, talk to them?
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:16 pm
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? I don't mind what people do in the privacy of their home or hotel room, but a fursuit is just another type of fettish clothing, like a latex bodysuit or gas mask. 2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions? Absolutely. This is a convention for a form of animation; of art, not a subculture of a sexual fettish. 3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? I've seen a lot of people who had to use fursuits to cosplay (Ninetails, Fox McCloud), but they weren't fursuiters. 4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter? I would ask them kindly to not approach me again.
I'm sorry if I sound rude and "close-minded", but I treat the furry fandom as what it is: a sexual fettish. Nothing more.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:36 pm
lol, but it's ok, because he said it with a smile
1) I think it's odd, and the idea really doesn't strike me as interesting.
2) depends... are they doing a mascot costume, or just there to be a furry?
3) if the original character is fitting, I don't see a problem with it.
4) don't know, it hasn't happened. I guess that would depend on how the encounter went (other factors like my HP at the time of the encounter would play in as well... kidding)
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:46 pm
As many people are in this guild I thought I might have gotten a few more answers, but I do thank those of you who did take the time to answer, regardless of your opinions. =)
Like I said, I like honest answers because it gives me a bit more of an unskewered view of the reaction I can look forward to. I respect each person's opinions and wishes and would never try to approach someone who seemed uncomfortable or blatantly unhappy about the fact a fursuiter was present. It is not my intention to be rude to anyone at any convention I attend, I'm simply there to have a good time just like every one else.
Thanks again.
EDIT: And Dashren Nolan I won't argue with you about your post because we are all entitled to our opinions, but you might want to actually do some research into the furry fandom so that next time you might actually have a clue of what it's about =)
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:44 am
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? I think they're cool, they put alot of time and effort into their suits and just do what they enjoy. 2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions? Not at all. 3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? Nope. 4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter? I actually approached them at JACON. I hugged them and got pictures. They where every soft and hugable ^^
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:49 pm
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? Well my opinion is quite biased. I Love fursuiters. I'm a furry myself! I dream of owning one some day.
2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions I love them. I wish I could go to a furry convention. But it seems a little out of place.
3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? That gives them a plus if they manage to pull off a cosplay. I've seen a Momiji, a Chimera Nina, Menchi, Ninetail fox demon... I tried to do Chopper.
4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter? I Give them a huge hug.
I would like to add that from a different view I think it seems a little out of place for a fursuiter to be around. Even though I love them to death and hope to join their ranks. It just doesn't fit in to be a regular furry. Maybe if that fursuiter included an anime theme.. maybe dress up in a character's attire over the furry body.
EDIT: Ugh Dashren, you made me sound like a whore.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:51 pm
Vaga Deathrose As many people are in this guild I thought I might have gotten a few more answers, but I do thank those of you who did take the time to answer, regardless of your opinions. =)
Like I said, I like honest answers because it gives me a bit more of an unskewered view of the reaction I can look forward to. I respect each person's opinions and wishes and would never try to approach someone who seemed uncomfortable or blatantly unhappy about the fact a fursuiter was present. It is not my intention to be rude to anyone at any convention I attend, I'm simply there to have a good time just like every one else.
Thanks again.
EDIT: And Dashren Nolan I won't argue with you about your post because we are all entitled to our opinions, but you might want to actually do some research into the furry fandom so that next time you might actually have a clue of what it's about =) I've actually done quite a bit of research into the Furry Fandom, on both a personal and impersonal level. I've even dated several fur-suiters, and befriended many more. The problem with saying that Furry-dom is about the belief that you have animal characteristics or animal connections in your mind or spirit is that there's already several fields for that dating back thousands of years from hundreds of cultures. To tie that concept into wearing Disney-eque mascot costumes and a rather sizable subculture of pornography is... well, it's offensive to those who honestly believe in the animal within their soul. So, if you want to say you have an animal in your spirit, please don't assosciate it with the common furry fandom. sad I think it's important to note that I don't "hold it against" anyone for being furry. I find it a perfectly acceptable taste for someone to have, and as I said before, I'm friends with many furries, scalies, etc... So don't think I don't like you because of your tastes, because you seem like a very kind and intelligent person. 3nodding Doubly-so because of the professionalism with which you approached this topic (as opposed to others in your field that I have encountered). So, kudos to you for handling this the right way.
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:58 pm
Vaga Deathrose As many people are in this guild I thought I might have gotten a few more answers, but I do thank those of you who did take the time to answer, regardless of your opinions. =) Well consider we're off the big con season now. Around December/January-ish it'll pick up as we head into Mega-time.
And on a side note, regardless of whether Dash has done any research, you asked for honest opinions to prepare yourself for a convention. Do you intend to tell each person who says anything to "do some research"? From what I gather, what Dash said represents the opinions of around half the fans you would find at a typical convention. If what he says bothers you, I would suggest saving yourself the frustration and pain you will inevitably feel and only fur-suit at a convention that specifically welcomes fur-suiters. And I mean SPECIFICALLY.
Not to generalize too much or insult present company, but many persons into sci-fi and anime fandoms have the social skills of a maggot.
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:09 pm
Dashren Nolan I've actually done quite a bit of research into the Furry Fandom, on both a personal and impersonal level. I've even dated several fur-suiters, and befriended many more. The problem with saying that Furry-dom is about the belief that you have animal characteristics or animal connections in your mind or spirit is that there's already several fields for that dating back thousands of years from hundreds of cultures. To tie that concept into wearing Disney-eque mascot costumes and a rather sizable subculture of pornography is... well, it's offensive to those who honestly believe in the animal within their soul. So, if you want to say you have an animal in your spirit, please don't assosciate it with the common furry fandom. sad I think it's important to note that I don't "hold it against" anyone for being furry. I find it a perfectly acceptable taste for someone to have, and as I said before, I'm friends with many furries, scalies, etc... So don't think I don't like you because of your tastes, because you seem like a very kind and intelligent person. 3nodding Doubly-so because of the professionalism with which you approached this topic (as opposed to others in your field that I have encountered). So, kudos to you for handling this the right way. I think my problem is that you make it out to be a fetish thing, when for a lot of people it is not. I have no real sexual connections when it comes to my fursuits or the fandom in general. I won't say I've never looked at, yiffy art, I have, but I keep that sort of thing very much seperate from my fursuits and the image I display to the public.
Fursuiters are ambassadors for the fandom because they stand out and are noticed, and what we do in suit very much effects how people see and accept us and so I try to give the best image I can and not to act inappropriately. Some fursuiters, sadly, do not behave this way and do give furries a bad name and that's something I don't tolerate. For me fursuiting is not about believing I'm an animal, I know I am a human, nor is it about expressing anything fetish related or otherwise inappropriate for public.
For me fursuiting is a chance to have fun, to be able to act a little silly and make people smile. I often suit for events geared toward children because I enjoy the entertainment aspect, I love it when a kid slowly warms up to you that first time and comes in for a hug, I like acting silly to give people the opportunity to laugh and enjoy themselves too. It's much easier to do these sorts of things in suit because people are more accepting of that than just a person in every day attire trying to jump up and down to catch a run away balloon. When you slap a fursuit over that person then it becomes acceptable and enjoyable, you become a performer instead of just a crazy person chasing a balloon.
I have no problem accepting that someone doesn't want hugs or to interact with a fursuiter and I have never forced myself onto anyone or distributed random hugs to strangers. If hugs are to be exchanged I always let the other party make the first move and if I feel someone is uncomfortable with me then I take my leave and move along. I am there to enjoy myself and entertain a little along the way, not to make people uncomfortable or angry with my actions (I mean give them a legitimate reason to be angry or uncomfortable, I don't mean just because I'm a fursuiter, because that's as unreasonable as me being angry because there are people dressed as their own OC's there)
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:17 pm
Kiss in Digital Well consider we're off the big con season now. Around December/January-ish it'll pick up as we head into Mega-time.
And on a side note, regardless of whether Dash has done any research, you asked for honest opinions to prepare yourself for a convention. Do you intend to tell each person who says anything to "do some research"? From what I gather, what Dash said represents the opinions of around half the fans you would find at a typical convention. If what he says bothers you, I would suggest saving yourself the frustration and pain you will inevitably feel and only fur-suit at a convention that specifically welcomes fur-suiters. And I mean SPECIFICALLY.
Not to generalize too much or insult present company, but many persons into sci-fi and anime fandoms have the social skills of a maggot. I did ask for opinions and that's why I said I wouldn't argue with him, I told him to research it because it seems to me, very much so, that he is missing the main point of the fandom and is strictly focusing on the sexual aspects which do not apply to all members of the fandom and truly have nothing to do with my fursuiting, since I do not participate in anything even remotely sexual in my suits.
I will be the first one to admit that yes, there are some fur suiters who do use suits in a sexual manner but often those suits are easy to pick out or are not even used for public functions. Thus, I do not believe fursuits should be labeled as fetish gear unless you're going to label all the other things people partake in sexual activities in/with/on as fetish gear such as vacuum cleaners, food, plushes, silk, ect. There are lots of things that some people find sexually attractive and use for that purpose but that does not mean that all people carrying vacuum cleaners use them for sexual purposes, it would be outrageous to think so.. So why should it be any less outrageous to paint that picture of fursuits and fursuiters?
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:55 pm
1) What is your opinion about fursuiters? I think they're a little strange. If I see one at a convention, I probably won't go out of my way to avoid them, but I won't start a conversation. Most of the time. It depends on if it's an actual cosplay or a creepy Disney-esqe fur suit type deal.
2) Do you mind fursuiters at anime conventions It depends. Before I read the suggestion about the Chimera Nina cosplay, I would have flat-out said no. I really didn't think about that. And I guess my anthro-ish chocobo costume I've been planning might scare a few people. Though that's more reminiscent of the playboy girls with the bunny ears on. Very not animalistic, and really not leaving much to the imagination. Meaning it will never get done. sweatdrop
I'd be more scared of a fursuiter at a Florida convention like AFO, because that means they're really hardcore about it, and it's not just a casual hobby. But I'm a little worried about traditional cosplayers in long-sleeved costumes like Vash or Ed Elric. My costume for AFO is going to be one of Roy's Miniskirt chicks, lol.
3) Does it depend on if they are fusuit cosplays (like Chimera Nina, or Kilala, or Arcanine) or original characters? Absolutely. If it's an actual cosplay, then that's ok. If it's an original character it really depends. The character you linked to could make a really cool costume. Very similar to how I imagined Battlemech Bear from one of my favorite series of books. And BTW, I don't consider dressing up like an original character cosplay of the traditional sense unless your oc is published somehow, in a webcomic or such.
4) How would you react if aproched by a fursuiter? Like I said, it depends. If it's just a random wolf or bear or whatever else costume, I would pretend not to see the person, and walk away quickly, while keeping an eye on the fursuiter out of the corner of my eye. If it's a Chimera Nina (I keep using that example because I'm really hooked on FMA right now) cosplay, I would probably actually strike up a conversation.
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:08 am
[edit]oish. nm.
Just one point, Freya is pretty correct in that if the suit is a costume of a known character, like say Red XIII, it's a different concept than an original costume. And doing an anthro chocobo actually should go over pretty well, as long as it's done well. I've seen extremely positive responses to cabbits and pokemans and other animal cosplays.
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