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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:38 pm
Prostitution should be made legal. It should be made legal and it should be regulated.
By regulation I mean like how it is done in the Philippines. Every week the prostitutes have you get checked for VD. If you fail your VD test, you get your license removed. This way it protects our societies health. Also, by allowing prostitution, you are adding money to our economy. By allowing prostitution, you are able to help majorily decrease PTSD in prostitutes. People get PTSD while being a prostitute because you are unable to presecute violent clients. By making prostitution legal, people are able to report such instances. It will be unlikely to occur and it protects our society.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:54 pm
See, the problem with a guild of the smart EDers is that you're preaching to the choir in most topics - most of this group likely agrees with you, including myself. Sadly, the people that disagree in the ED tend to be all but pointless to debate with in the first place, so it's kind of a lose-lose situation, isn't it? Sigh... meh, I agree wholeheartedly at any rate.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:55 pm
Emperor Fluffzorz See, the problem with a guild of the smart EDers is that you're preaching to the choir in most topics - most of this group likely agrees with you, including myself. Sadly, the people that disagree in the ED tend to be all but pointless to debate with in the first place, so it's kind of a lose-lose situation, isn't it? Sigh... meh, I agree wholeheartedly at any rate. True xd
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:04 pm
Emperor Fluffzorz See, the problem with a guild of the smart EDers is that you're preaching to the choir in most topics - most of this group likely agrees with you, including myself. Sadly, the people that disagree in the ED tend to be all but pointless to debate with in the first place, so it's kind of a lose-lose situation, isn't it? Sigh... meh, I agree wholeheartedly at any rate. Which is why we have been trying to find some good opposition in here. Unfortunaltely, the few that we managed to find has been uninterested in either joining or posting regularly. And to avoid making this completely off-topic, I agree with you wholeheartedly Coco. I have yet to see a good argument against regulated prostitution. So far it's only been "it exploits women" (because we all know regulated prostitution will result in girls being forced into brothels) and "then people might think it's okay/*other morality bull*" (because morality is objective and universal, durrr.)
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:07 pm
Toga! Toga! So far it's only been "it exploits women" (because we all know regulated prostitution will result in girls being forced into brothels) Psh. Legalizing and regulating prostituion would help stop the exploitation of women. Because, as My Conscience said (hee, it's funny typing that phrase), it will be easier to press charges against violent clients. There will also hopefully be program that make it easier for women to move up from prostitution on to other jobs. So, obviously, I agree with both of you on the issue.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:16 pm
Pandora Box Toga! Toga! So far it's only been "it exploits women" (because we all know regulated prostitution will result in girls being forced into brothels) Psh. Legalizing and regulating prostituion would help stop the exploitation of women. Because, as My Conscience said (hee, it's funny typing that phrase), it will be easier to press charges against violent clients. There will also hopefully be program that make it easier for women to move up from prostitution on to other jobs. So, obviously, I agree with both of you on the issue. But you don't uinderstand, Panda! We're talking about women having sex and men wanting them to! And it's not with their husbands! That's EBILL exploitation, we all know no woman wants that!
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:12 am
Oh what the hell.
*Votes no on regulating prostitution*
I call Sexual discrimination on the matter!
True, regulating it would actually protect woman from the harms the industry faces today. [yes I just called whoring yourself an industry]. But the market is sexually bias. Though existance, females would dominate the market; for prostitution is a market that is femalre oriented, as such it would be unfair to declare it legitimate. Now aside from all the crap of "So? Males own every other market" or "lolsthatstoobad", it's a valid point. In almost every other industry both sexes are allowed the freedom of advancement, or at least prosperity in the respective fields. Construction work seems to hardly be an exeption as there ARE female contractors and this is a situation in which equality would mean getting paid less.... I don't think anyone would take a lower paying job, not to mention one that some find tiring, just to balance out the sexual ratio. More to the point, prostitution would only benefit males, and as it stands now, thats not a problem as it is not a recognized industry. However, were it to be even slightly regulated is to acknowledge it as an industry, and thus sexual preferences could lead to discriminatory charges.
[posted for the sake of arguement]
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:13 am
I heard it's actually legal here..you just aren't allowed to kerb crawl.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:20 am
AvenirLegacy Oh what the hell. *Votes no on regulating prostitution* I call Sexual discrimination on the matter! True, regulating it would actually protect woman from the harms the industry faces today. [yes I just called whoring yourself an industry]. But the market is sexually bias. Though existance, females would dominate the market; for prostitution is a market that is femalre oriented, as such it would be unfair to declare it legitimate. Now aside from all the crap of "So? Males own every other market" or "lolsthatstoobad", it's a valid point. In almost every other industry both sexes are allowed the freedom of advancement, or at least prosperity in the respective fields. Construction work seems to hardly be an exeption as there ARE female contractors and this is a situation in which equality would mean getting paid less.... I don't think anyone would take a lower paying job, not to mention one that some find tiring, just to balance out the sexual ratio. More to the point, prostitution would only benefit males, and as it stands now, thats not a problem as it is not a recognized industry. However, were it to be even slightly regulated is to acknowledge it as an industry, and thus sexual preferences could lead to discriminatory charges. [posted for the sake of arguement] If it was regulated, the fee would be the same accross the board. I don't believe men nor women would be payed more or less.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:32 pm
AvenirLegacy Oh what the hell. *Votes no on regulating prostitution* I call Sexual discrimination on the matter! True, regulating it would actually protect woman from the harms the industry faces today. [yes I just called whoring yourself an industry]. But the market is sexually bias. Though existance, females would dominate the market; for prostitution is a market that is femalre oriented, as such it would be unfair to declare it legitimate. Now aside from all the crap of "So? Males own every other market" or "lolsthatstoobad", it's a valid point. In almost every other industry both sexes are allowed the freedom of advancement, or at least prosperity in the respective fields. Construction work seems to hardly be an exeption as there ARE female contractors and this is a situation in which equality would mean getting paid less.... I don't think anyone would take a lower paying job, not to mention one that some find tiring, just to balance out the sexual ratio. More to the point, prostitution would only benefit males, and as it stands now, thats not a problem as it is not a recognized industry. However, were it to be even slightly regulated is to acknowledge it as an industry, and thus sexual preferences could lead to discriminatory charges. [posted for the sake of arguement] I'm sorry, did you honestly say that prostitution should stay illegal because there aren't enough male prostitutes? Supply and demand. If more people with an interest in men started looking for prostitutes you may see more of those. But because it's not so common in our society, it doesn't happen. And why are the arguments you mentioned invalid or "crap?" They're the same arguments you're making.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:42 pm
Toga! Toga! Supply and demand. If more people with an interest in men started looking for prostitutes you may see more of those. But because it's not so common in our society, it doesn't happen. Very true. That's like saying strip clubs are sex discrimination. Obviously there are more strip bars with women aimed at men than vise-versa (or with women aimed at women/men aimed at men, especially). But if a woman wants to create a male strip bar aimed at women, she's not going to be stopped. If you want more men in that kind of industry then you just need to get more men involved in it. And, in response to AvenirLegacy saying it would only benefit males, I don't see how that works, either. Of course female prostitutes with a male-only clientele are the norm, but there are going to be females willing to accept female clients, and males willing to accept female or male clients. Plus, like Toga said, if it's legalized it will eventually become more accepted and things will probably even out. Maybe not completely, but moreso than now.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:04 pm
Toga! Toga! I'm sorry, did you honestly say that prostitution should stay illegal because there aren't enough male prostitutes? Sure, it's borderline sexism =P Toga! Toga! Supply and demand. If more people with an interest in men started looking for prostitutes you may see more of those. But because it's not so common in our society, it doesn't happen. It would still be a sexist market. Then again there is the "So what?" factor involved. Toga! Toga! And why are the arguments you mentioned invalid or "crap?" They're the same arguments you're making. Hardly. Please clarify.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:07 pm
Pandora Box Very true. That's like saying strip clubs are sex discrimination. Obviously there are more strip bars with women aimed at men than vise-versa (or with women aimed at women/men aimed at men, especially). But if a woman wants to create a male strip bar aimed at women, she's not going to be stopped. If you want more men in that kind of industry then you just need to get more men involved in it. Obviously is a sexist market. I never said it was wrong. Just stating a view; one I believe holds merit, especially in the way you just described it. Pandora Box And, in response to AvenirLegacy saying it would only benefit males, I don't see how that works, either. Of course female prostitutes with a male-only clientele are the norm, but there are going to be females willing to accept female clients, and males willing to accept female or male clients. I never said it would benefit 'anyone'. I mearly said that the market would be sexist and would require congressional involvement in the matter. Just like any other work place that is sexist. Pandora Box Plus, like Toga said, if it's legalized it will eventually become more accepted and things will probably even out. Maybe not completely, but moreso than now. Assumption.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:13 pm
AvenirLegacy I never said it would benefit 'anyone'. I mearly said that the market would be sexist and would require congressional involvement in the matter. Just like any other work place that is sexist. You said: Quote: More to the point, prostitution would only benefit males, and as it stands now, thats not a problem as it is not a recognized industry. If that's not what you meant, please clarify. Everything in this case is an assumption because it has not happened nation-wide in the U.S. Even if we use places where it's legal as an example, we're still assuming it would (or wouldn't) work mostly the same somewhere else.
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:59 am
You say that prostitution should stay illegal because there aren't enough male prostitutes. You also mention an argument that there aren't enough female contruction workers and call it "crap." I want to know why. If you want to get more men involved in the industry, why don't you start?
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