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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:36 am


This will be short and sweet. I was just curious as too everyone's take or belief on Atlantis. Do you believe it's just a myth? That it's still out there? Etc.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:12 pm


My take? Well....
.. At some point, all of humanity has some strange connection. It's debatable, and therefore, a stubborn subject. My own take is rather fanciful, but it IS Atlantis.

Physicists say that what we see is only one dimension of all existance. Our "universe" is actually Mode 1 within a multiverse. Perhaps this Atlantis was a different Mode that was tapped into, like the realm of the gods (will explain that one someday).

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:35 pm


I'm pretty sure Atlantis was just a really spiffing island off the coast of somewhere that had an active volcano on it. Volcano blows, it sinks, people die. The end.

That's just always what I've thought, though. I don't believe I can really subscribe to the 'alternate dimensions' theory. :/ It just seems a bit too... out there, I guess, for me to believe.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:59 pm


I believe in some way that there is an Atlantis. How could there not be in the olden days the water could have eroded the earth away and it sank by the shifting of the earths crusts. and also after a long, long time of being under water all the artifacts in the water either got destroyed or buried under the earth.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:00 pm


I pretty much believe what Cerberus believes, that "Other worldly dimension" stuff was kinda out there, interesting, but too far out there for me to really get a grip on. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:33 pm


I believe it was simply a mistake, a garbled interpretation of something passed down the generations, and that "Atlantis" is actually an existing mediterranean island.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:21 am


I haven't heard much of Atlantis. Maybe Europeans don't really care for beautiful landscapes (or ... whatever it was).
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:44 pm


Atlantis, probably was real, but only a small island. The water level probably rose, because of the worlds moving plates, and submerged the island.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:46 am


Meh, I like the idea of an ancient island of highly civilized people that somehow 'upset the gods' and was sunk. 'Upset the gods' translating to some sort of huge disaster.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:49 pm


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/14/cyprus.atlantis.ap/index.html

People have claimed to find Atlantis before, but this is quite intriguing smile

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:07 am


There are lots of theories, all of which I could beleive to some extent. The truth is, I really don't know for sure, and can only speculate.

I do know certain historical facts like Greece wan't really one unified country, but a lot of city-states, and the ancient Greek culture as we know it was the result of many island and sea-traveling cultures (including the Minoans from Crete, where King Minos and the Minotaur come from...), one of which may have been destroyed by floods (or the gods or God or hubris or a shift in the demensional plain or something) with few or no survivors, and thier neighbors could only speculate.

((Also, people from the mainland just north of "Greece," Macedonians I beleive (I think Alexander the Great was acutally Macedonian), conquered all the individual peoples of Greece, and helped give them a more unified state...but that's not important here.))

And the Greeks were seasoned mariners and travelers...they might have borrowed the idea from another culture. Atlantis could be related to the Great Flood or the Tower of Babel or something. Also, the idea that Atlantians were avandced in technology wouldn't surprise me.... recent studies show that ancient peoples were far more advanced than we once thought...most of the advanced knowledge was destroyed in a fire in Alexandria... and that loss of advancement was one of the reasons people were later thrown back to a time of gross ignorance and supersition (the Dark Ages).

Anyway, it could've been so many thigns...I will not say one is true over the others yet...it's a puzzle I hope is solved someday... if people ever agree to agree on anything now... stare
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:04 pm


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There are lots of theories, all of which I could beleive to some extent. The truth is, I really don't know for sure, and can only speculate.

I do know certain historical facts like Greece wan't really one unified country, but a lot of city-states, and the ancient Greek culture as we know it was the result of many island and sea-traveling cultures (including the Minoans from Crete, where King Minos and the Minotaur come from...), one of which may have been destroyed by floods (or the gods or God or hubris or a shift in the demensional plain or something) with few or no survivors, and thier neighbors could only speculate.

((Also, people from the mainland just north of "Greece," Macedonians I beleive (I think Alexander the Great was acutally Macedonian), conquered all the individual peoples of Greece, and helped give them a more unified state...but that's not important here.))

And the Greeks were seasoned mariners and travelers...they might have borrowed the idea from another culture. Atlantis could be related to the Great Flood or the Tower of Babel or something. Also, the idea that Atlantians were avandced in technology wouldn't surprise me.... recent studies show that ancient peoples were far more advanced than we once thought...most of the advanced knowledge was destroyed in a fire in Alexandria... and that loss of advancement was one of the reasons people were later thrown back to a time of gross ignorance and supersition (the Dark Ages).

Anyway, it could've been so many thigns...I will not say one is true over the others yet...it's a puzzle I hope is solved someday... if people ever agree to agree on anything now... stare


You got a goodly number of good facts, and a few that are a little off.
Alexander WAS a Macedonian, and he did "unify" Greece, but only by force and having them drive eastward against the Persians, who had all but given up the idea of taking Greece.

Another point of interest is that almost every culture out there has a "flood story" where a previous culture, more than not it was far more advanced, was obliterated by some action, usually a precipitation of the will of the gods (or God).

Sure enough, a lot of previous cultures were much more advanced, but the following peoples always want to assume that they were less, to make themselves greater. (If all you do is say "Remember when BLANK was so much better?" then all you're doing it looking, not fixing.) Egyptians learned medicines through mummification and passed that on to the Greeks, and even the most primitive culture perform trepanations.

Lastly, to give a small correction, "gross ignorance and superstition" has existed as long as the Christian church has named others pagan, which was just before the Dark Ages. The moment that occured, all the knowledge those people had was condemned. The Christian base set it self up at the end of the Roman Empire, and modelled itself upon that government style. Unfortunately, the Romans looked to their leader, the Caesar, for knowledge, and that was only made worse by the fact that the Romans sough trade and money, not technology (They killed many of the great minds that were living in Greece at the time). When the Holy Roman Empire took up position about the 700s, they believed everything you needed to know was in the Bible, and if it wasn't in the Bible, then the Pope knew the answer. THIS was the blindness that lead on until about 1300, when the Black Plague arrived from China and all of Europe suffered while the Pope hid in his France location, rather than lead prayer, which was the last-resort effort among the peoples. It is from that point on that the starting to rebuild knowledge began, with the early workings of the people to entertain each other ( Chaucer's Canterbury Tales is one offspring ) and then with the advent of books for enjoyment, came those for learning.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:45 am


we can always count on Thor to give it to us straight blaugh
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:35 am


Thanks for the corrections, Thor... Brillaint examination of facts, my friend. wink I'm glad you could help me out, I used to be pretty good at history, but that has died in the last four years or so. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:50 am


redface redface I'm a part of the "Brutally Honest" club. Sorry if I ever get any of you mad because I correct you, but when/if I correct, I usually have the facts behind me to help.
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