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Aiko_589

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:07 pm


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:22 pm


gee thanks... but with your advice I will try harder.

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ferretclaw

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:37 pm


this is extremely over-generalized. where did you get this information that it will take "5 years" to learn the difference between wa and ga, and such? what kind of scientific proof do you have to back that up?

i'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, but what you've just posted is not helping. it's only discouraging those who actually want to learn. it sounds like you're encouraging people to give up since they'll never get it anyway. why will they never get it? because they're just not japanese, so it's hopeless.

and i hope you understand that this guild is not a microcosm of japanese learners outside of japan. if you've come to these conclusions mainly based on your experience with learners here, i think that's wrong.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:52 pm


oh no thats not it, ferret. its this:

most people on this forum take japanese as a thing that is translated from english. it is also quite annoying to me that most people prefer to stick wtih "i am beginner" and never go any where from there. it seems also that most people are concerned about focus on what their leanring on trying to grasp different subjects.


the wa ga thing, is because i read an essay that said in the end, a foreigners problems boil down too wa and ga, so i thought i might as well point out, that it s too hard to ever get perfect. you will just have to deal with a small grammar problem.

and if i based this information on this guild, that would be such a generalization that most people would die laughing.

besides, the point of this topic was to post a JOKE ESSAY entitiled HOLOCAUST IS GREEK FOR "LEARNING JAPANESE". those are so funny!

Aiko_589


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:08 pm


HOLOCAUST IS GREEK FOR LEARNING JAPANESE

so i hear you are learning japanese! you poor poor child:

The japanese can read minds. you can say a few words and apparently understand you. this is called context (context. [noun] 1.your screwed 2. japanese mind reading). this is why you can go into a hotel and say "I..." and tehn point to your head. the japanese guy will probably pick up his gun and say "begone you foregin infidel, you shall not have my daughters!!!" you better run because you were probably thinking something gross about hs daughters.

Japanese people can only make about 102 sounds. No, really. As a result, it’s incredibly difficult for Japanese people to correctly pronounce other languages. This is why simple English words like, “TV” sounds like “terraybi” in Japanese.

On the other hand, much to your benefit, pronouncing Japanese is a cinch. Unfortunately, your brain has been so thoroughly messed up by English that for some reason “karaoke” looks like “kery-okay”. I mean look at the word “thoroughly”, just look at it. Does the spelling make any sense? So the next time you ask in Japanese, “Where is the elevator?” and the Japanese person smiles and says, “yua japaniizu bery guddo” and just walks away, you’ll know that it’s really your fault he thought you were speaking in Swahili.

Katakana are used only to spell out foreign words in a thick, crippling japanese accent, so that you'll have no idea what you're saying even though it's in English. However, if you remember one simple rule for Katakana, you'll find reading Japanese much easier: Whenever something is written in Katakana, it's an English word! (note: Katakana is also used for non-english foreign words. And sound effects, and Japanese words). No need to worry, because you'll hardly ever have to read Katakana in "real life".

Kanji are letters that were stolen from China. Every time the Japanese invaded China (which was very often) they'd just take a few more letters, so now they have an estimated 400 milliom of them. Kanji each consist of several "strokes", which must be written in a specific order, and convey a specific meaning, like "horse", or "girl". Not only that, but Kanji can combined to form new words. For example, if you combine the Kanji for "small", and "woman", you get the word "carbeurator". Kanji also have different pronounciations depending on where they are in the word, how old you are, and what day it is. When European settlers first came upon Japan, the Japanese scholars suggested that Europse adopt the Japanese written language as a "universal" language understood by all parties. This was the cause of World War 2 several years later. Don't worry, however, since you'll never have to use kanji in "real life", since most Japanese gave up on reading a long, long time ago, and now spend most of their time playing Pokemon

For some reason, most Japanese people are brainwashed from childhood to have an irrepressible desire to learn how to speak English. This is quite sad because it’s practically impossible considering how much more difficult English is compared to Japanese. But that doesn’t stop them for trying for 10 or 20 years. What results is a very interesting language that, unfortunately, no one understands. So remember, as long as you are either 1) fluent in Japanese, or 2) own a 200 processor Beowulf cluster that can parse Japanese English into real English, you should have no problems finding help from "english" spekaing japanese.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:54 pm


Aiko_589
Not only that, but Kanji can combined to form new words. For example, if you combine the Kanji for "small", and "woman", you get the word "carbeurator".


LOL!! it's only funny because it's slightly true in a few cases.

i wonder... if i was japanese, i might be a little bit offended by that. but maybe it's so crazy and light-hearted that it probably wouldn't affect me.

ferretclaw


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:00 pm


ferretclaw
Aiko_589
Not only that, but Kanji can combined to form new words. For example, if you combine the Kanji for "small", and "woman", you get the word "carbeurator".


LOL!! it's only funny because it's slightly true in a few cases.

i wonder... if i was japanese, i might be a little bit offended by that. but maybe it's so crazy and light-hearted that it probably wouldn't affect me.

it didnt offend me. (sources: me, and internet)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:13 pm


Aiko_589
ferretclaw
Aiko_589
Not only that, but Kanji can combined to form new words. For example, if you combine the Kanji for "small", and "woman", you get the word "carbeurator".


LOL!! it's only funny because it's slightly true in a few cases.

i wonder... if i was japanese, i might be a little bit offended by that. but maybe it's so crazy and light-hearted that it probably wouldn't affect me.

it didnt offend me. (sources: me, and internet)


that's good, because it's a really funny article and i don't want to feel bad when i laugh at it. sweatdrop

ferretclaw


che_hyun

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:22 pm


Aiko_589
What results is a very interesting language that, unfortunately, no one understands..



Ah geez. I love this thing.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:21 pm


Quote:
ANIME NERDS
As if learning the language wasn't hard enough, Japanese classes in America tend to attract the kind of student who makes you wish that a large comet would strike the earth. There are a few basic type of students that you'll always find yourself running into. These include The Anime Freak, The Know It All, and the Deer Caught In Headlights.

The Anime Freak is probably the most common, and one of the most annoying. You can usually spot a few warning signs to let you identify them before it's too late: they wear the same exact Evangelion shirt every day, they have more than one anime key chain on their person, they wear glasses, they say phrases in Japanese that hey obviously don't understand (such as "Yes! I will never forgive you!"), they refer to you as "-chan", make obscure Japanese culture references during class, and usually fail class. You have to be extremely careful not to let them smell pity or fear on you, because if they do they will immeadiately latch onto you and suck up both your time and patience, leaving only a lifeless husk. Desperate for human companionship, they will invite you to club meetings, anime showings, conventions, and all other sorts of various things you don't care about.the most annoying of which is cosplay. thats proof right there that their the reason japanese immigration is hell(not mention they are so used to the word cartoon geek they think its their name). They usually fail, and suck at japanese the most. (actually this part i actually agree with as being true)

The Know It All typically has a Japanese girlfriend or boyfriend, and because of this "inside source" on Japanese culture, has suddenly become an academic expert on all things Japanese, without ever having read a single book on japan in their entire lives. You can usually spot Know It All's by keeping an eye out for these warning signs: a cocky smile, answering more than their share of questions, getting most questions wrong, questioning the teacher on various subjects and then arguing about the answers (a typical exchange: Student: What does "ohayoo" mean?,Teacher: It means "good morning", Student: That's not what my girlfriend said...), being wrong, talking alot about Japanese food and being wrong, giving long, unnecessarily detailed answers which are wrong, and failing class.

The Deer Caught In headlights are those students who took Japanese because either a.) they thought it sounded like fun, b.) they thought it would be easy, or c.) they just need a couple more credits to graduate. These students wear a mask of terror and panic form the moment they walk into class till the moment they leave, because all they can hear inside their head is the high pitched scream their future is making as it is flushed down the toilet. They are usually failing.

Aiko_589


gothic_panda

Floppy Pup

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:08 pm


mwahaha that was hilarious, both of those 'essays' were amazing. They remind me of friend of mine, but he's a real jerk in ways.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:33 pm


X DDDDD

makes me wonder who DOES pass a japanese class in america.

i did fairly well in mine, despite being president of the anime club. i don't own an eva shirt, i didn't have any keychains until after i graduated, never called anyone chan in public, and still have yet to cosplay. and i have contacts, not glasses. and besides, all the guys say i'm cute in my glasses X D


that "GREEK FOR LEARNING JAPANESE" one is a riot. absolute riot. best part? "Kanji are letters that were stolen from China. Every time the Japanese invaded China (which was very often) they'd just take a few more letters, so now they have an estimated 400 million of them." did you write it or get it from somewhere? I want to repost it elsewhere and don't want to do so without credit.

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ferretclaw

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:34 pm


wow, i wonder if the original author is in my japanese class. this is identical! i can definitely point out all 3 types of those japanese students. and, yes, they usually are failing. as for myself, i do like anime, but not to the extent of otaku. not even close. these days i'm more interested in watching music, talk, or variety bangumi than i am in anime.

my class has a lot of deer caught in the headlights. when sensei has people read passages from the textbook, sometimes it's very painful to get through. needless to say, i think my classmates need to study kana again, even though this is not a beginner course. i swear, i'm one of two people who knows katakana. stare
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:44 pm


ferretclaw
wow, i wonder if the original author is in my japanese class. this is identical! i can definitely point out all 3 types of those japanese students. and, yes, they usually are failing. as for myself, i do like anime, but not to the extent of otaku. not even close. these days i'm more interested in watching music, talk, or variety bangumi than i am in anime.

my class has a lot of deer caught in the headlights. when sensei has people read passages from the textbook, sometimes it's very painful to get through. needless to say, i think my classmates need to study kana again, even though this is not a beginner course. i swear, i'm one of two people who knows katakana. stare


yes, you can like anime. just, once you turn 16, forget it. unless you like be bullied.

Aiko_589


ferretclaw

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:33 pm


Aiko_589
ferretclaw
wow, i wonder if the original author is in my japanese class. this is identical! i can definitely point out all 3 types of those japanese students. and, yes, they usually are failing. as for myself, i do like anime, but not to the extent of otaku. not even close. these days i'm more interested in watching music, talk, or variety bangumi than i am in anime.

my class has a lot of deer caught in the headlights. when sensei has people read passages from the textbook, sometimes it's very painful to get through. needless to say, i think my classmates need to study kana again, even though this is not a beginner course. i swear, i'm one of two people who knows katakana. stare


yes, you can like anime. just, once you turn 16, forget it. unless you like be bullied.


but... but... but... i want to pretend it's real and collect hundreds of figures and dolls!!! i think that's better than having a life or a girlfriend! 現実よりフィギュアの方がいいよ!

・・・・・なんちゃって!! gonk gonk gonk *vomits*
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