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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:17 am
So, let me first preface this. I tend to be a very liberal character and side almost always with the minority.
That being said, I find it wholly odd that people have this conception that anything other than male-female sex is sexually deviant. And by people I am speaking to only those that would speak for this particular bias., I am fully aware that there are those like me who couldn't care less what ones sexual preference is. What I propose here is a discourse upon the various behaviours, sexually that is, that more traditional sorts find to be deviant. Are these behaviours of a miscreant nature? Or are they wholly natural? Does it even matter? Should we even care?
Homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, pansexuality and even transvestism may be discussed here.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:46 am
I'm a liberal person (and probably slightly towards communist, but that's a different story), so I don't care who goes out with who; male-male, female-female, male-female, as long as it's what they want.
I agree with you, I don't understand why people find it strange. Maybe it's to do was basic instincts; the instinct to reproduce lots of babies. Some people make out that we're going to be extinct, but that's not true, I bet my bottom dollar that they are more "straight" people then "gay" people, if anything we need to keep the population down. Look at China for example, you're only allowed one child, anymore and they will either kill your baby or put it in an orphanage.
Like I said in your other topic about Homosexuality, it's been here since Ancient Greece, maybe even earlier.
I guess in a way it's natural. Homosexuality occurs in animals, but whether it's to do with masturbation or is actually gay we're not sure. It has been proven that it is in the genes, but I guess its nurture as well.
Overall I don't think we should worry about what people do behind closed doors. At the end of the day, they are happy with who they are, there will still be people who will have kids; humankind will not die out (until the sun blows up or we die from Global warming). Now let's all link arms and happy people biggrin
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:36 pm
I honestly don't think it's any of our business, regarding the orientation of others. Maybe it's the way they were raised, and the influence the people around them gave them. As you said, I couldn't care less. When I'm meeting new people, I care about their personality. In fact, I find that gay men are actually a lot nicer. I used to have a gay friend who I met online, and we got along fine. They're just more understanding and all =).
People who make a big deal out of it are just morons. Don't judge them by their sexuality. Judge them by their personality.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:53 pm
i don't judge people based on their sexuality, or if they've had a transgender operation. it really doesn't bother me. 3nodding i don't know why most people are against homosexuality and transgender-sexuality, and pansexual (which i don't know what that is, sorry). i think people are just too stupid in this day and age to see who people really are.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:58 am
I don't care about any of that, it's their feelings. And besides, it's not my will to control. whee
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:17 pm
wii the people i don't know why most people are against homosexuality and transgender-sexuality, and pansexual (which i don't know what that is, sorry). Well, as you should know a heterosexual is atracted to the opposite gender, an homosexual is attracted to the same gender, and a bi-sexual is attracted to both men and women. Now, some people do not fit in neither of those. Pansexuals, are people that attracted to people no matter if they're a man, woman, mtf transgender, ftm transgender, hermaphrodite, etc. Basicly, they don't care where do you fit in the gender spectrum, whereas the majority of homo/hetero/bisexuals do, at least to some extent. That's what pansexuality is, at least as well as I can explain it sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:16 pm
RMarques wii the people i don't know why most people are against homosexuality and transgender-sexuality, and pansexual (which i don't know what that is, sorry). Well, as you should know a heterosexual is atracted to the opposite gender, an homosexual is attracted to the same gender, and a bi-sexual is attracted to both men and women. Now, some people do not fit in neither of those. Pansexuals, are people that attracted to people no matter if they're a man, woman, mtf transgender, ftm transgender, hermaphrodite, etc. Basicly, they don't care where do you fit in the gender spectrum, whereas the majority of homo/hetero/bisexuals do, at least to some extent. That's what pansexuality is, at least as well as I can explain it sweatdrop Ah. I get it now. 3nodding Pansexuals aren't picky at all. xd
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:08 pm
Why does it even matter what sexual orientation people are? It's none of our damn business! We shouldn't interfere with other people's feeling and values. It's downright wrong. They all have a right to love/like whoever, so why is America trying to abolish gay marriages? There is nothing wrong in any of it. So I really don't see where, people who dispise homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, and pansexuality, are coming from.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:32 am
cookiemun5tr Why does it even matter what sexual orientation people are? It's none of our damn business! We shouldn't interfere with other people's feeling and values. It's downright wrong. They all have a right to love/like whoever, so why is America trying to abolish gay marriages? There is nothing wrong in any of it. So I really don't see where, people who dispise homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, and pansexuality, are coming from.
A horribly perverted misunderstanding of the Christian faith, that is where. Of course by their actions they do prove just how much they are unlike Christ and are therefore not at all Christian. I do love how people screw themselves... rolleyes
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:56 pm
cookiemun5tr Why does it even matter what sexual orientation people are? It doesn't. Quote: It's none of our damn business! That is arguable. I have a right to decide what my future children are subjected to. As a parent, that is my right. In anything. Be it, sexuality, religion, politics, whatever. I can shelter/not shelter them as much as I choose. Quote: We shouldn't interfere with other people's feeling and values. If their values interfere with outs, what then? Then it becomes a moral issue. Someones religion says killing is alright, ok...do we let them kill then? George Bush and the Patriot act disagree with you. Prove this please, and you own morals and values are not good enough proof. Quote: They all have a right to love/like whoever, so why is America trying to abolish gay marriages? Abolish? We never allowed it; how then can it be abolished? Quote: There is nothing wrong in any of it. Again, proof please. Morality is subjective. So are values. To allow something of this nature we have to find that it does not go against the morals and values of the majority. Can you do this? Quote: So I really don't see where, people who dispise homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, and pansexuality, are coming from. Bigoted mind-sets taught at a young age. Misinterpretation of scipture, ignorance, closed0-mindedness. Take your pick.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:58 pm
DonAbbatecola A horribly perverted misunderstanding of the Christian faith, that is where Mind citing this? Quote: Of course by their actions they do prove just how much they are unlike Christ and are As apposed to someone who is like Christ? This is not possible. Christ was sinless, perfect. 'For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". We sin once, we are all on an equal playing field and as far from being like Christ as Hitler. Quote: therefore not at all Christian. "Judge not lest ye be judged" YHVH has an ambassador on Earth now? Why didn't I get the memo?
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:00 pm
Marshal67 DonAbbatecola A horribly perverted misunderstanding of the Christian faith, that is where Mind citing this? Quote: Of course by their actions they do prove just how much they are unlike Christ and are As apposed to someone who is like Christ? This is not possible. Christ was sinless, perfect. 'For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". We sin once, we are all on an equal playing field and as far from being like Christ as Hitler. Quote: therefore not at all Christian. "Judge not lest ye be judged" YHVH has an ambassador on Earth now? Why didn't I get the memo?
Well, rather than write out all the proof I have I shall let my friend linaloki do the talking as he puts it so much more eloquently.
Now, as for "Judge not lest ye be judged," that is Christian propoghanda and as a non-Christian I do not at all adhere to such. There comes a point where some judgement must be passed. These people cannot be Christian for the simple fact that the word means to be "Christ-like." Certainly they can be followers of the faith he had put forth, but they cannot go along making the false claim that they are Christian.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:29 pm
I'm actually writing a research paper on this sort of subject. Based off of the premise of "Humans Playing God", the question becomes: Are we playing a moralistic God when our legislators and government feel the need to apply their morals, that supposedly come from a religious belief, into the lives of Americans? Are we playing God when we decide to control even the aspects of the bedroom?
The other part of the paper is are we playing God by attempting to cure homosexuality because the majority thinks it's wrong?
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:38 pm
DonAbbatecola cookiemun5tr Why does it even matter what sexual orientation people are? It's none of our damn business! We shouldn't interfere with other people's feeling and values. It's downright wrong. They all have a right to love/like whoever, so why is America trying to abolish gay marriages? There is nothing wrong in any of it. So I really don't see where, people who dispise homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, and pansexuality, are coming from. Yes, quite a horrible perverted way..or so you would say. what does christianity have anything to do with what orientation people are? how the hell is it a sin against Christ to be homosexual, for an example.
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