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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:20 pm
Here we can talk about the facinating, headache causing world of philosphy, or, as some call it, the diccusion of ethics. I can't cmment right now, but I'll come back.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:03 pm
What about? I'm up for a discussion, but don't expect much input from me (philosophy noob xd ).
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:11 pm
Well, let's see what subject we can debate. Such as debate the truthfulness in the expression, "There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:53 pm
Hmmm. Then I'd have say that that phrase isn't true, at least in my perspective. Fear is a natural human emotion and instinct. It gets our adrenaline going, and can help us think quicker in a tight spot. I can see where that phrase came from, but I think it's not true in all cases.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:59 pm
Well, just because fear is useful doesn't mean there is anything to fear. I ask you this: Is there anything to fear?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:39 am
With God, no. But that doesn't mean we still shouldn't be careful, or worried, or afraid of some things. Fear can make you stronger, and more careful in things you do.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:27 am
True, if you are Christian, you should belive that there is nothing to fear with the Lord. "When I walk in to the valley of darkness, I shall feel no fear, for the Lord is with me." - Pslam 23 confused ? So we shouldn't fear thing spiritually, but (if I understand what you are saying) we should fear thing physically. So out bodies should reject pain, but our spirituallity should accept it. Before I aruge that point you must say if we should fear things mentally. Answer all three of the trio: Body, Mind, and Spirit.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:30 am
I don't know too much on philosophy right now, so I'll just watch until I take the college class this spring.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:04 pm
All you have to do is answer the questions. Do we have anything to fear sipirtually? Mentally? Bodily?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:46 pm
Nothing I can think of except God in a loving way. It mentions somewhere in the Bilbe we should fear Him.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:17 pm
...Answer each one seperatly.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:39 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:10 pm
Hmm. I'll try this as best I can.
Spiritually:
As Hermonie said, we should fear the Lord in a loving sort of way. I think also in the spiratual sense we should fear evil. If you fear something, you are less tempted to give in, correct? Your fear makes your stronger in that sense, I think.
Mentally:
I believe that we don't have to fear anything with the Lord (unless you are athiest, of course, and perhaps agnostic), but that we should still be careful. Also, while it is not necessary, I think God gave us fear for a reason. It makes us more careful, quick-thinking, and alert. But irrational fears, such as all the random -phobias (Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia, anyone?) are pointless and just something we must work through ourselves.
Bodily:
Again with the "fear can be good" thing. If we are, for example, afraid of fire, we won't touch it. If we don't touch it, we won't get burned. If we are without fear, we may be careless and do stupud things like that, in turn harming ourselves.
Did I answer the way you wanted me to?
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:21 am
If you answered trutfully, then yes you answered the way I wanted you to.
So, it would seem that we have much to fear: The Lord, Evil, things that infest our mind(which goes under Evil, in a sense), and bodily harms. But this only works in a general sense. What about when fear is the very thing that undoes us? When fear turns entire countries upside down so that they turn on themselves. When the Confederates succeded, it was out of fear that Lincion(sp) would vote against slavery. Lincion, in turn, was afraid that his country (the North) would be angry if he didnot try and stop them. If you look at them from this point of view: Lincion needed to keep order in the country, and to do that he needed the county on his side, therefore it made sense to try and stop the South, since that is what they wanted; and the South needed slavery to substain the livlihood, and Lincion (supposidly) was going to vanquish slavery, therefore they needed to getaway from him: the Civil War sprung from two rational fears. I'm not saying Lincion's worry about social status was right, nor slavery was right, but the fears were rational from their point of view. Thousands of lives were lost from two rational fears. Here is an example that rational fear is dangerous. Now, do you have a counter-example?
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:51 am
I'm working on it sweatdrop
Personally (and again), I think that there's more than one side to everything. Yes, you could take that situation from that view, but you could also look at it from many different (yet still not correct nor incorrect) views. In another sense, perhaps the "rational" fear (another thing that can be argued in different perspectives) wasn't dangerous itself, but triggered or helped trigger dangerous things. If I am afraid of something like my political ststus (say I am the mayor of a city that hates me), a rational fear in some people's eyes, I could do many different things.
So you've got the fear, or the cause. What then? If you examine the situation, compare your reasoning and cause/effect, you can come up with different paths to take. Which ever path you take could be dangerous or not; it also depends on the factors of other people, too. The south could've been afraid, but that doesn't = danger. What if they sat there and did nothing? That sounds safe, but it depends on everyone as a whole.
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