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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:20 pm
How do you feel about horseback riding- showjumping, dressage, the RCMP musical ride, the lipizzaner stallions. Do you see it as demeaning for the horses? Do you see it as Ok?
Personally, I think it's fine. So long as the horses aren't cruelly treated, I see no problem with it. The advancement of civilisation has depended a lot on horses as a means of transportation. Many people develop a bond with their companion horse, myself included.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:05 pm
I guess its alright if they like it.
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:22 pm
i have a horse, and i know as a fact he would kill himself if he was let to fend for himself.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:47 pm
Generally, horseback riding and some stunt riding is pretty safe for the horses. So why not?
However, I do get nervous... A poorly trained horse or an inexperienced rider are both put at risk in some situations.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:40 pm
I think horse back risding is great for the animals and the people...
Some of the horses really love their jobs and their riders...
*However* I think that the treatment of the animals is key for it to be a good sport. I hate when I'm at a show and I see someone beating their horse or using a harsh bit! And I hate it when people keep their horses cooped up in stalls all the time.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:57 pm
I agree with all4slytherin. I've seen people that love their horses and go to every precaution to make sure nothing could happen to them.
However, I've also seen people that wouldn't give a damn if their horses were beign treated unfairly. I once volunteered at a therapeutic horse riding program. What they were doing was great, but they treated their horses poorly. I remember that I had this somewhat stubborn mare I had to brush. She would n** me every once in a while, so I pulled her out and hooked her up to cross lines (Is that what they're called? The leads that come from both sides of stable that keep a horse from running around when you saddle them up? It's been to long.). Anyway, I finished brushing her and put her back.
Later, the head volunteer asked how I did it. When I asked what she meant, she said that Chessie, the mare, always reared when someone tried to lead her out. In reality, Rachel wouldn't respect Chessie. She would drag her out, brush her hastily, and spacked her face with a crop when she tried to move. It angered me, but I was only 13 at the time, and Rachel was 20. I didn't 'have as much experience'. At least I knew how to respect another living creature. stare
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:40 am
I think that horseback riding is fine. It is good for the horse, and the trainer. But, if they treat the animal bad or punish it for not winning a race, then that is wrong. I watched this show on TV, and this man beat his horse for not winning the race. It was absolutely horrible.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:15 pm
Squeehamster I think that horseback riding is fine. It is good for the horse, and the trainer. But, if they treat the animal bad or punish it for not winning a race, then that is wrong. I watched this show on TV, and this man beat his horse for not winning the race. It was absolutely horrible. What pisses me off is horses who are "put down" when they are no longer able to race, but are still relatively healthy and can live a healthy life. I do not support the euthanasia of animals if they can still live a happy healthy life.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:04 pm
I think that horseback riding is good, I voluteered at a theriputic horse ranch that helps disabled kids . And we took really good care of our horses. but I do not believe in horse races.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:07 am
Spoon Raid I think that horseback riding is fine. It is good for the horse, and the trainer. But, if they treat the animal bad or punish it for not winning a race, then that is wrong. I watched this show on TV, and this man beat his horse for not winning the race. It was absolutely horrible.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:29 pm
that reminds me of a really sweet story. smile
at the stable where i used to ride, there was this awesome, huge black gelding named Whonox who was the sweetest, gentlest horse in the world. So whenever a new kid came for lessons they'd be put on whonox, and whenever they competed in their first show it was on whonox. Eventually he got old and arthritic with a horrible limp, so they stopped using him for showing, but he continued living happily at the stable.
Then one girl, who had first learned to ride on whonox, fell off of her horse during a competition and was paralyzed from the waist down. When surgeries failed to give her mobility again, she went into therapeutic riding.
A few months later, she came back to the showground and rode Whonox, just at a walk, through the course.
It was so heartwarming. heart
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:55 am
I used to ride and show (hunt-seat) when I was younger - man I'm getting old.
Horses are amazing intelligent and usually seem to sincerely enjoy quality time spent with their human friends. I always thought the horses I rode and I had very balanced friendships. I would treat them kindly and respectfully, and they would be very nice and corporative in return.
There was one horse in particular that I loved - a tall grey gelding name Beau. He definitely had an attitude (we think he had been gelded too late). But was very sweet all the same.
My instructor at the time (and his owner) thought that he was a difficult horse to ride and fairly uncooperative. Yet, when I rode him he wasn't that way at all.
Then one day I came to the arena as saw my instructor riding him. He was being quite difficult and uncooperative. Her response was the riding crop and spurs. (I HATE SPURS.) His sides were bleeding from the abuse. I was very saddened/angered upon seeing this.
Such an intelligent, kind, and powerful living being was suffering because he wasn't behaving exactly how my instructor wanted him to behave. She could have chosen not to ride him. She probably could have had a wonderful relationship with Beau if she hadn't behaved like a anger-prone control freak from the beginning.
I often think about Beau and hope his situation improved. He was a wonderful horse and deserved to have someone love him.
I think it's important to remember that some horses are not suited (whether physically or mentally) for some equestrian sport activities. Not all horses enjoy high jumping. Not all horses enjoy dressage. Not all horse enjoy barrel racing. And it's very easy to tell.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:22 pm
I don't agree with riding horses.
My opinion, more eloquently worded as I've slept 30 minutes in two days:[url=http://veganfaq.blogspot.com/2007/10/is-horseback-riding-vegan.html]Vegan FAQs @ Blogspot[/url] The simple answer: no, it isn't. No leeway, ifs or buts. Unlike some, I really do not believe that it is a gray area.
To use any animal for our amusement is exploitation, and hence, not vegan. Others would likely argue that horses do, in fact, gain pleasure from the activity. However, do you see horses queuing up to be rode, yelling "Pick me! Pick me!"? No, of course not.
Would you enjoy carrying personnel on your back at various speeds whenever said personnel felt like it? Would you like to be periodically locked up? Would you like to be "broken in" during the early stages? I'm guessing no. Moreover, as to any "bond" that exists between the human and the horse - an apparent bond also exists between dogs and dog fighters.
And, to the welfarist line, whether the horse is treated fairly/kindly/companionably ("happy horse riding!") whilst being ridden is utterly irrelevant as he or she is still used. Period. That is, the defining characteristic of veganism is that we do not believe that animals should be considered property, and therefore we respect their needs and wants that demand that we do not exploit them.
Overall, I think of species as equal. When a human is riding a horse, the human is in control, the dominant one. Horses like to run, to walk, and perhaps to spend time with human companions, but riding isn't the only way to meet these needs or the most appropriate one.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:12 am
I think it's fine as long as the horse doesn't mind, and if it does, they shouldn't be forced to do anything
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:37 pm
v e g a n l i c i o u s I don't agree with riding horses.
My opinion, more eloquently worded as I've slept 30 minutes in two days:[url=http://veganfaq.blogspot.com/2007/10/is-horseback-riding-vegan.html]Vegan FAQs @ Blogspot[/url] The simple answer: no, it isn't. No leeway, ifs or buts. Unlike some, I really do not believe that it is a gray area.
To use any animal for our amusement is exploitation, and hence, not vegan. Others would likely argue that horses do, in fact, gain pleasure from the activity. However, do you see horses queuing up to be rode, yelling "Pick me! Pick me!"? No, of course not.
Would you enjoy carrying personnel on your back at various speeds whenever said personnel felt like it? Would you like to be periodically locked up? Would you like to be "broken in" during the early stages? I'm guessing no. Moreover, as to any "bond" that exists between the human and the horse - an apparent bond also exists between dogs and dog fighters.
And, to the welfarist line, whether the horse is treated fairly/kindly/companionably ("happy horse riding!") whilst being ridden is utterly irrelevant as he or she is still used. Period. That is, the defining characteristic of veganism is that we do not believe that animals should be considered property, and therefore we respect their needs and wants that demand that we do not exploit them.
Overall, I think of species as equal. When a human is riding a horse, the human is in control, the dominant one. Horses like to run, to walk, and perhaps to spend time with human companions, but riding isn't the only way to meet these needs or the most appropriate one.
Agreed.
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