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Alright, here is were you can debat against others, cleanly. Any pairing, person, or event. I've even got our first debate idea.

We respect that. After all, that's how I see NaruSaku- as mere friends. But, I do believe that there's something a bit more deep into Sasuke and Sakura's relation. There's a lot of angst. We aren't really excluding Naruto. Naruto is completely aware of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. And he accepts that which is why he wants to bring Sasuke back. He isn't really left out. He is aware of Sakura's feelings and he won't try to change them, he'll protect them.



One: she didn't do it for love the way I see it. I see it as a sacrifice to both Naruto and Sasuke.

Two: She does because she realizes that long hair is a burden ._.

Three: How can it turn her back? I see her character development even more noticable and better. She changes due to her mistakes.

Four: True. Sasuke is an avenger and he doesn't care about love until Itachi's dead. Then we'll see what happens. So really...we all know that Sasuke will never love Sakura or have any feelings for her until Itachi is dead, hopefully.

I look back at this little thing I wrote and frown upon it. Compared to my nice, long essay written in the pairings thread, this sucks bad...

Mentions Against NaruHina - Yes, it is hinted, about as much as InoCho, NaruSaku, and SasuSaku. Does that mean it will happen? No. Naruto is the kind of person who is utterly oblivious to Hinata's feelings, and she can't bring herself to admit them. I am willing to accept them as a possible pairing, but I find it hard to see them together. Most of the hints are one-sided or ALMOST NaruHina. Chuunin exams, when Hinata wanted to become stronger because of Naruto, that's onesided. Chuunin Exams, when Naruto vowed to win against Neji. I see this as more of a friendship thing between him and Hinata. I could go on forever, but I wish to go back to SasuSaku.

I'd like to bring myself to fix up the Naruto Left Behind problem...Yes, Naruto accepts she has strong feeling for Sasuke. That doesn't mean he likes them, or wants Sasuke and Sakura to end up together. At the bottom of his heart, he's probably afraid.

Sakura's Character Development - Sasuke changed her. It's all thanks to Sasuke (and Kishimoto-san, of course!) that Sakura's so strong and she's become such a better character. More on One: When Sakura cuts her hair, she SAYS it was a burden. I see it as an excuse to make Naruto believe her. It's probably partially true, but it's another 'not SasuSaku moment', but a moment that brough her character to become stronger. If it weren't for the Forest of Death, and her thoughts of not being a burden, she never would've cut her hair.
Her short hair being kept is something you have to be able to compare with Ino. Again, partially because it's a hassle, but she kept her hair short (in my eyes) as a sign - she's getting used to her life without Sasuke. Ino, on the other hand, grew out her hair, even though she doesn't care about Sasuke anymore. This could possibly be a SasuSaku foreshadowing, but I prefer to see it as an Ino character development - she just doesn't care.
Back to Sasuke's 'avenger' personality. You really have to be careful, talking about this. He may never kill Itachi, never restore his clan. If he doesn't, he's likely to keep himself away from his friends, afraid never to be accepted.

And there you have it. ;D I love doing this SO much...*eats pizza with dad*

I'll give you that...He is often oblivious to everything around him. Which makes him Naruto. xD But you think he'd notice...he is a ninja, after all. ninja



Something else I must give you. Naruto is not the kind of person who clings desperatly to old feelings that he no longer needs/has. IF Sasuke comes back (emphasizing the if) Naruto will probably get over it.



You can't really call Sakura's feeling for him (at the time) 'love'. She admits later that she truly loves him - and it's most likely true. I can't see how cutting her hair is a SasuSaku moment, however. She was thinkin about them all - She wants to be like Naruto, Lee, AND Sasuke. They're all her teachers, and she wants to prove to everyone (not just Sasuke) that she is no longer a burden to them. Your argument against her hair-cut being a SasuSaku moment is a bit weak. I can't see it as more than a friendship moment. And character development, on Sakura's part.




Didn't make myself very clear, I see. xD Sometimes I do that...Sakura admits her love for Sasuke, and then doesn't see him for two years. That's a long time to think, isn't it? Perhaps over those two years, her heart has changed. Because people change, no person has a certain path that leads to a certain destiny. I agree a bit on this part - Sakura is not the kind of person who says "I love you!" and then gives up. But if she /really/ didn't want to forget about Sasuke, would she have gone on a date with Naruto? I highly doubt it.



Another good point - Naruto is a shonen manga, friendship, goals, betrayal, etc. etc.. Sasuke has his ambitions - to kill Itachi and restore his clan. But no matter how hard he tries, do you think he really has the heart to kill Itachi? His older brother? The one he looked up to? The one who helped him be who he is? Perhaps. But most likely not. Killing someone is more difficult than it seems. Especially someone who is close to you.

You've made really good points, though. I'm not surprised, but I'm glad. I've never really had a chance to debate with someone over something that they feel so strongly about.

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