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 Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:27 pm
Now of all the battle system issues, there is the ever prefent issue of guns. Yes, we still don't know if they will be included because of how many people like/dislike them. And because often threads are flocked with either one or the other, there will never be a real true anwser.
So, what are your opinions on guns in the battle system?
My rebutle to all arguements:
Not fantasy enough: Fantasy is anything that cannot happen. Often it is mixed with things that could happen, like having castles and such. So I really don't see how guns will not work with fantasy. Heck, there are quite a few fantasy games with guns.
Unless those final fantasy fans argue that Final Fantasy is not fantasy.
Not with Gaia theme: Heck, Gaia is fantasy. And whatever olde fantasy feel Gaia had is gone now. We are now modern fantasy with an olde twist. You know how fantasy games with laser guns have swords of some kind? Well, Gaia can be modern and still have old weapons. Simple enough.
Unfair: Heck, Gaia is smart enough to make it balanced. If the shots are frequent then they will do little damage. If the shots are powerful it will take a while to reload. If it is the same as a sword, then it will require expensive ammo. There are hundreds of games where people have guns, and yet the sword guy is more powerful. There is no problem here.
N00bs stating they are shooting people: If n00bs have swords, they will claim to be Cloud and stab people. Heck, more people would be cloud and random anime characters than having guns and shooting people.
Person preferance: Stop being selfish. Gaia revolves around the users. Plural. Not just you, everybody. If some people want guns, it is not your right to say they cannot have them.
Discuss.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:18 pm
Kind of hard to respond when you have a rebuttal to all arguments, hmm?
In any case, selfish or not, I don't like guns. If someone wants to go long-range, give them a bow or some magic.
I don't like guns... what'll we have, medieval armor styles? Those don't match up to a powerful gun. It's the godmoder's weapon of choice i nmost roleplays I frequent, sadly... granted, I'm a mage. Castings can be interupted in most systems by a hit. Bullets are quite hard to dodge last time I checked, making magic-flingers near useless.
Not to mention, guns tend to be incredibly long-ranged. Arrows, at least, have a nice, safe maximum range.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:37 pm
Guns are just as much fantasy as swords can be. Swords and melee medieval weapons have a much carved factual history just as much as guns have their place in time now. Swords aren't fantasy weapons, they're just impractical in today's age.
As it pertains to gaia in the battle system, well, why not have a gunslinger class? Every weapon has it's drawbacks and I'm sure the admins are smart enough to know that just because the AK47 and M4 devilishly destructive and fast doesn't mean that they will be so in the game. I suspect that to even the field if or when they make guns, guns will do less damage than swords or the like. And when you really think about it, that makes sense. I mean, you're going to bleed a lot more if say someone put an axe into your gut than a bullet the size of a pea piercing a part of you.
Still... I say, guitars man... ulitmate weapon get.
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:46 am
We also know that no matter what kind of bullet/explosion ammo you use, a cheap leather armor and a high defence rating will protect you from guns. Why? Because it is balanced. While guns may have an incredibly long range, they would either have a lower accuracy and/or weaker ammo.
And PvP is not going to happen anytime soon, so I don't see much worry there.
I made this thread to make everybody agree with me have people provide arguements that would soon be anwsered to me, so that I have more ammo that can penetrate those who oppose guns in Gaia. Not that I am trying to change your mind or anything, just proving that Guns can be in Gaia.
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 pm
People complain about ALL features when they're released...
if I complain, it would be if they don't let MC's be usable, that would be bullshit
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:50 pm
Majin Paul People complain about ALL features when they're released...
if I complain, it would be if they don't let MC's be usable, that would be bullshit MCs?
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:40 pm
mrdogey 2.0 Majin Paul People complain about ALL features when they're released...
if I complain, it would be if they don't let MC's be usable, that would be bullshit MCs?
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:51 pm
Personally, I dont like guns in most battle games, I prefer mages, or bowmen. Bowmen atleast have to pull back and give the other person time to move in and make their move, and mages have to channel the magic also giving time for someone to make their move.
But with guns you can shoot and shoot, I wouldnt mind if a gun was used in a finishing move as in someone rushes in and punches someone in the stomach and while they hunch over in pain BAM! game over.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:28 pm
Well since the Sniper's character uses a gun, and he/she is a part of Gaias story line, then guns do seem relivent to one of the many different fantasy atmosphers that Gaia provides.
Barton: Medevil: Knights, Wizards, Magic.
Aekea: Mechanics, Robots, Industrtial
Gambino: Tropical, Beaches, um... what ever else. lol
And Durem: European, Fashion, Syndicates ...? O.O
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:33 pm
I strongly do not disagree with you.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:10 pm
I think that the points made have been good.
I am confused as well. I think the guns wouldn't be Fantasy.
And I agree that if they are available, the ammo should be expensive for only the above average.
Maybe the guns should be like when they were still experimenting with them. They could malfunction if you don't have the experience and they could blow up and kill you.
That would be funny
xd
Any I'll use spears anyway so I wouldn't be heartbroken if we didn't have guns.
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:44 pm
There is such along wait until the battle system will come out
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