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 Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:33 pm
I saw it first on Maddox, but it's being reposted to an alarming rate. You may have seen some people with sigs that proclaim that they eat meat because it's "better for animals." The logic is that because the combines used to harvest vegetables kill a lot of animals, you are killing fewer animals by eating meat.
Of course, they completely ignore that it takes several more acres of plants farmed to make a pound of meat than a pound of vegetables and that most of the plants farmed are funneled through animals. Meat eaters not only directly kill animals, but they also consume more plants through those animals than a vegetarian will by just eating the plants.
It's just really sad that so many people are so obsessed with meat that they're so easily tricked into believing they're killing fewer animals by eating them.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:30 pm
Wow, that's ridiculous! I've never heard of this viewpoint before. That would be inherently self-defeating unless the meat-eaters were entirely carnivorous, which I doubt. A carnivorous person probably wouldn't live very long. eek I'm still dumbfounded by this. Just... wow.
My father has mentioned something about animals choosing to be eaten by humans. I think it's supposed to be founded somehow in religion. I wouldn't know how to begin looking up information on that topic because of how absurd it is. If anyone knows what this is called, do post!
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:48 am
I have definately seen this talked about everywhere and it makes me furious!! I despise the fact that people just dont want to change their fat, meat, disease filled lives to make the world a better place for us, and animals....They just want any excuse to continue eating all that crap and will cling to it..... sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:15 pm
it is in the bible and is justified in the churches. they say that animals don't have souls so they have no contiuosnes that they are only here for us to eat . thats funny though because when i was a kid my pastor promised me that my pets went to heaven and last time i checked you had to have a soul to get in, but then agian my pastor made alot of promises to me he couldn't keep! twisted
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:08 am
I found a little something or so on the thing my father mentioned to me about animals choosing to be eaten by humans. It's another forum. http://s11.invisionfree.com/NADS/ar/t644.htm And I found this little tidbit from http://www.anapsid.org/roleofzoos.html: Quote: Another theory put forth by Stephen Budiansky in his book Covenant of the Wild: Why Animals Chose Domestication (1992) is that animals (as well as plants) chose domestication because of the benefits of living in close contact with humans. Just as reindeer are inclined to stay in the vicinity of humans because of their attraction to the minerals found in the soil near human habitation, it is presumed that cattle, sheep and goats were originally attracted to human habitation because of advantages of lack of predators, more stable food supply, etc. The disadvantage of individuals occasionally being eaten by humans is thought to have been outweighed by the overall advantages conferred upon the group. "advantages of living with humans"
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:59 pm
How stupid can you GET?
People have to make themselves feel better so whatever. They know somewhere in their soul what they do is wrong..
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:46 pm
pilliwinks I found a little something or so on the thing my father mentioned to me about animals choosing to be eaten by humans. It's another forum. http://s11.invisionfree.com/NADS/ar/t644.htm And I found this little tidbit from http://www.anapsid.org/roleofzoos.html: Quote: The disadvantage of individuals occasionally being eaten by humans is thought to have been outweighed by the overall advantages conferred upon the group. "advantages of living with humans" For some reason I laughed when I read that line. Perhaps because I envisioned all these animals discussing amongst themselves. "Yes, let's live with the humans, they'll protect us. Except for you Sally, Bill and Karl, the humans will need to eat you." Okay, probably not that stupid... I can see the perks of living with humans, especially vegetarians!
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:45 am
I'm reading the book in which that theory was founded, The Covenant of the Wild. It's only 172 pages long, and I'm about 50 pages into it. The first few pages were the worst. I don't agree with a lot of it so far, but it's not all nonsense.
Saying, "animals chose domestication," is an oversimplification of his theory, so I don't know why he chose that subtitle for his book. rolleyes So far he's addressed Darwin's theory in the correct light, but has also gone off and misconstrued Darwin's theory on other pages.
I don't want to contribute to his book sales, but it's really hard to keep up with certain points I'd like to make regarding his book without marking up the library copy. I suppose I should invest in some sticky notes. I plan to finish reading it, and then I'll write about it for the guild my second time through.
I'm not sure how to take all this in. I've never read a book on theory before, so I don't know what to expect. So far, I'm not impressed, but I'm not as appalled as I thought I'd be. I don't agree with a lot of it because I still see humans as the definition of evil, and he's certainly glorifying humans, but he's not speaking in terms of factory farming. He makes some odd points that seem to conflict, but I'm also not done with the book, so it might all tie together. Probably not, but I'll try to keep my mouth shut until I finish it.
I'm busy with exams right now, though, so it'll be a couple days. I take my last one on Monday, and I've got 200 pages in the textbook to cover. gonk
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:55 pm
I tell my friends not to be with me if they're gonna eat meat, because I don't feel like watching someone eat an animal while I'm having lunch.And when they don't listen to me, I only tell them, "Just wait when I live ten more years than you."And it's true, vegetarians are more likely to live ten more years, than the average meat eater.But, as long as you still get all your nutrients, and you're a healthy vegetarian, then that statement will be true.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:10 pm
_-iamoftheuniverse-_ I tell my friends not to be with me if they're gonna eat meat, because I don't feel like watching someone eat an animal while I'm having lunch.And when they don't listen to me, I only tell them, "Just wait when I live ten more years than you."And it's true, vegetarians are more likely to live ten more years, than the average meat eater.But, as long as you still get all your nutrients, and you're a healthy vegetarian, then that statement will be true. I somewhat agree with you; watching someone eat meat makes me wanna barf, but I don't tell them to leave me alone or that I'll live longer. I just look at the floor and talk to them. Hahahaha. My science teacher told that to me and the other veggies in my class, and we all were laughing so hard. XDDD It really does piss me off when someone says that, though. mad
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