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 Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:22 pm
I havnt played Mgs1 in a LONG TIME so please bear with me.
How was Solid Snake born? I mean was he born in some type of test tube thing or did they like get the semen from big boss and just be like "Hey wanna be the mother of the coolest espionage guy ever" and Boom Baby biggrin or what?
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:44 pm
He was born in a test tube kinda thing. there were going to be tons of clones, but almost all of them were destroyed to make solid snake, liquid snake, and solidus snake...mamby another secret brother.
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:43 am
Liquid Snake mentioned something about them being originally 8 babies and that they were inserted into somebody's womb, and then 6 of them were aborted, which left him and Solid Snake. However, I guess it might have only been five that were aborted, since Solidus was apparently "the third." Or maybe Solidus came a different host. neutral Any who, they were in a womb at some point or another.
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:41 pm
yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also.
hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like
Big boss?
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:16 pm
solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:25 pm
it's also really confusing with the La Lu La Le Lo and the Patriots, what is the La Lu La Le Lo? is it the patriots, but with a different name?
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:01 pm
MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; )
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:40 am
Captaincarnival MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:09 pm
I do not know really,since he is a lone oof Big Boss,he would have had to have been made in a lab,but maybe he was adopted in,sorta like Raiden...never thought about that,but he was cloned back in the seventies,and that's why he looks so old now,cause of crappy cloning tech.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:01 pm
bounty_hunter_bk Captaincarnival MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting. Seing Ocelot was working for Solidus I thought he was saying Solidus was the perfect one and that liquid and solid were the infirior ones.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:42 am
solid snake151 bounty_hunter_bk Captaincarnival MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting. Seing Ocelot was working for Solidus I thought he was saying Solidus was the perfect one and that liquid and solid were the infirior ones. But what about when he said something to the effect of "Liquid thought that he was the inferior one all along,"? This would be so much easier if I could remember which site I've been to that had a transcript! gonk It was a really long time ago.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:36 am
bounty_hunter_bk solid snake151 bounty_hunter_bk Captaincarnival MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting. Seing Ocelot was working for Solidus I thought he was saying Solidus was the perfect one and that liquid and solid were the infirior ones. But what about when he said something to the effect of "Liquid thought that he was the inferior one all along,"? This would be so much easier if I could remember which site I've been to that had a transcript! gonk It was a really long time ago. Yeah, Ocelot's "last words" at the end of every game seem to add the twist. But yeah, Liquid WAS the shitty Snake. Solidus kinda just seemed added in because they were bored or something. It's kinda hard to explain him though.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:38 pm
MajorXero bounty_hunter_bk solid snake151 bounty_hunter_bk Captaincarnival Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting. Seing Ocelot was working for Solidus I thought he was saying Solidus was the perfect one and that liquid and solid were the infirior ones. But what about when he said something to the effect of "Liquid thought that he was the inferior one all along,"? This would be so much easier if I could remember which site I've been to that had a transcript! gonk It was a really long time ago. Yeah, Ocelot's "last words" at the end of every game seem to add the twist. But yeah, Liquid WAS the shitty Snake. Solidus kinda just seemed added in because they were bored or something. It's kinda hard to explain him though. I think it would have been better if solidus lived, then in MGS4 all three brothers could have one last final show down. they have yet to have a boss battle where you are fighting 2 bosses at once.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:09 pm
Alright, listen up.
Liquid and Snake were 2 of 8 clones made from Big Boss' DNA. Once placed in the womb, 6 of the other clones were aborted and part of their "leftovers" were used to "design" Solid and Liquid. Solid Snake received the dominant genes (brown hair and eyes for example) while Liquid had the recessive genes (blonde hair and blue eyes). Nextly, Solidus was a secret clone that the Patriots had raised separately. Whereas Solid and Liquid were designed to take down Big Boss (who had turned against the Patriots by going all Outer Heaven) and as such were physical clones of Big Boss, Solidus was directly raised by the Patriots to make a psychological clone of Big Boss (public honors as a president, combat experience in a devastating "secret" war, and the father/mentor to son/soldier relationship with Raiden) as part of a prototype S3 plan.
Addressing problems:
Why did Snake beat Liquid then?
It's Kojima's theme of soldiers who fight on the battlefield, fighting for their ideologies and that by the theory of survival of the fittest, the victor's ideals are superior. Snake won because his ideology and values were superior to Liquid's.
Why can't the others be the perfect clone?
Solidus was born separate from all the other clones, and he was "designed" to have a balance of recessive and dominant genes unlike the others.
Why is Solidus older than the other two?
Simple, advanced cell degeneration.
So, uhh, who's the superior one again?
Solidus, end of story.
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:21 pm
bounty_hunter_bk Captaincarnival MajorXero solid snake151 yeah, I heard there might be a forth or fith brother also. hey one thing I didn't get was why if liquid and solid snake looked alike why did soliudus look like an old man. was he suppose to look like Big boss? My guess is that because they're all clones, they age differently. But Solidus did seem pretty old. Perhaps he was one of the FIRST snakes and later came Solid and Liquid? Or maybe something completely different. Idk, but they sure do leave us puzzled. confused Well, as I remember, Liquid was talking about how Solid got all of Big Boss's perfect genes, and himself getting the defective, and imperfect genes. Like, there was one embryo. It was split, and Solid got all of the amazing genes from Big Boss, and everything else was dumped back into what is now Liquid. But, I think that they were all clones, who were genetically altered. (I don't know about Solidus though >.>;; ) But Ocelot kind of hinted that Liquid was the better one at the end of Twin Snakes. Interesting. Yeah thats right. Ocelot told "the president" (which was actually Solidus) That the "inferior one" won the battle, which was Solid Snake. Kinda confusing.
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