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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:30 am
While I was in the ED current condition thread I read one post from the "lust is a hard...." Well you know the rest if you think about it. Well one thing he said was that 4channers in an anonymous person, well that didn't stick me as odd the thing he said next was, he said that this person gets mad when he's accused of spamming places he hasn't, this seems almost funny to me I mean one of the reasons I think it so that your recognized and you get publicity for it thou, I mean robbers do this, and imitation the best form of flattery right. Well then why would you get mad at this.
Discuss: 1. What do you think gos threw these kids minds? 2. Do you really think they are kids? 3. In a similar instance do you think you would act the same way?
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:36 am
Most spammers, I think, are a bunch of fifth graders on the Internet while Mommy and Daddy are at work. This guy seems a bit older, both due to his reasoning and his chosen screen name. I think he also said something about having roommates...anybody remember that? I think what's going on is most of these people are losers with no social life who are taking out their frustration and anger at their situations (no friends, poor grades, sucky life) on those they see as elitist. We can spell and most of us don't seem to have any great love for 4chan so we are 'elitist'. ...They might also be angry about the 4,000,000,000 threads devoted to the discussion of homosexuality. *Shrug*. I think that I might have done something very similar when I was 9 or 10. However, I also think I would have gotten over it if people ignored me, and gone back to the chatterbox like a good little noob.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:38 pm
I've always believed spammers are either bored, or resent intelligence. I mean, look at the way they talk and type. They have to be either very unintelligent or children. In either case it would be understandable if they were intimidated by intelligent people. They come to ED expecting it to be like GD, but instead they find serious, in depth discussion, so they try to drive those who they perceive to be a threat away through trolling and spamming. Its basic animalistic instinct. Look at "lust is a...", its obvious he was intimidated by many of us and the way we spoke to him. He indicated himself that he resented the fact that we could talk in peace here, so he wanted to disrupt that peace. Then, he could say that 4channers come to spam us because we know they spam us with relative sureity we would believe him. Just an idea...
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:52 pm
As a person who loves to read/study/write/learn about psychology, my hypothesis is that spammers want attention and feel that only by spamming can they get it. They might see negative attention as the only kind of attention they can get, so that's better than nothing.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:03 pm
[Kaotic Angel] While I was in the ED current condition thread I read one post from the "lust is a hard...." Well you know the rest if you think about it. Well one thing he said was that 4channers in an anonymous person, well that didn't stick me as odd the thing he said next was, he said that this person gets mad when he's accused of spamming places he hasn't, this seems almost funny to me I mean one of the reasons I think it so that your recognized and you get publicity for it thou, I mean robbers do this, and imitation the best form of flattery right. Well then why would you get mad at this. Discuss: 1. What do you think gos threw these kids minds? 2. Do you really think they are kids? 3. In a similar instance do you think you would act the same way? These kids or people, to make it correct since we our not sure, seem to display the same thing. They want to be heard, so they post porn or any other spam to get response from people. The more you post on the thread, the more likely they will do it again. Not everyone will listen to you when you say don't post, so they keep on coming. This is anyone's guess really. I bet some our kids, I'm not sure what percentage our. Some I know our religious groups; while others our hate groups; though they still could be kids. If IU felt the same way, I wouldn’t be posting, since that is unlike me. Some that our on Gaia for sure feel upset and the only way can take their feels is out on the web, which is a bad idea. Nothing more stupid than posting death threats to people.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:10 pm
I actually know a spammer/troll in real life.
The guy is the biggest dork you'll ever met, but a total genious.
His favorite persona to pretend to be is the drunken religious hypocrit.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:27 pm
Mad_Hatt3r I actually know a spammer/troll in real life. The guy is the biggest dork you'll ever met, but a total genious. His favorite persona to pertend to be is the drunken religious hypocrit. Similar to me in some aspects, but I'm not the religious hypocrit. I do act different on here, I guess it's a way to be different here than what you are in real life.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:55 pm
Some of the trolls come in expecting to actually get into the discussion and what not and use all of these excuses and logical fallacies that they are blind to seeing. Most I have seen refuse to listen to reason or intelligence. I hang around the Homosexuality debates quite often and I part find it hilarious and part find it annoying how these kids come in expecting to insult homosexuals and try to sound "cool" because they're flamming everyone.
I have to agree with Lunar on this one. In AP Psychology, I learned about how some people want constant attention and resort to obtaining negative attention rather than having none at all. It's sad, but true.
My favorite thing ( stare ) is when they storm into a thread insulting everyone or spamming or whatever they're doing and then when you pull out an intelligent comment and fire back at them, they act like the victims when the true victim is the ED forum. Another sad, but true.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:02 pm
MizuDoragon Some of the trolls come in expecting to actually get into the discussion and what not and use all of these excuses and logical fallacies that they are blind to seeing. Most I have seen refuse to listen to reason or intelligence. I hang around the Homosexuality debates quite often and I part find it hilarious and part find it annoying how these kids come in expecting to insult homosexuals and try to sound "cool" because they're flamming everyone. I have to agree with Lunar on this one. In AP Psychology, I learned about how some people want constant attention and resort to obtaining negative attention rather than having none at all. It's sad, but true. My favorite thing ( stare ) is when they storm into a thread insulting everyone or spamming or whatever they're doing and then when you pull out an intelligent comment and fire back at them, they act like the victims when the true victim is the ED forum. Another sad, but true. Don’t really hang out on those topics, since the noobs love them; that all you really do is bash them; may sound fun. But in the end nothing is added to the post in a positive way.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:20 pm
Steven Hawkings Don’t really hang out on those topics, since the noobs love them; that all you really do is bash them; may sound fun. But in the end nothing is added to the post in a positive way. I understand this pretty well. In my earlier days, I decided to flame them but to a minor degree. Now I ignore them or suggest they move themselves to the GD or CB. I'm more often ignoring them instead... they tend not to listen, as mentioned earlier.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:50 pm
MizuDoragon Steven Hawkings Don’t really hang out on those topics, since the noobs love them; that all you really do is bash them; may sound fun. But in the end nothing is added to the post in a positive way. I understand this pretty well. In my earlier days, I decided to flame them but to a minor degree. Now I ignore them or suggest they move themselves to the GD or CB. I'm more often ignoring them instead... they tend not to listen, as mentioned earlier. As my friend stated to me, "One of these days I'm going to invent a way to stab people through the internet." crazy in thought, yes it serves a point in speaking. I wish they would IP ban them. Then again the World Wide Web itself is going down hill, it's not just Gaia.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:56 pm
Armchair psychology people? Have any of you stopped to think, that maybe these people are entirely normal outside of the internet, and they just like to piss people off because they think it's funny. That one fellow said he trolled because he thought peoples reactions were funny, I'll take his word for it. Going off and claiming that trolls just want attention is stupid, I'm sure it's true for some, but by and large, most people troll because they think it's funny, at least, that's what the folks at 4chan have taught me.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:20 pm
TheNinjaGoddess Armchair psychology people? Have any of you stopped to think, that maybe these people are entirely normal outside of the internet, and they just like to piss people off because they think it's funny. That one fellow said he trolled because he thought peoples reactions were funny, I'll take his word for it. Going off and claiming that trolls just want attention is stupid, I'm sure it's true for some, but by and large, most people troll because they think it's funny, at least, that's what the folks at 4chan have taught me. What's the personality that you noticed of these 4chan people? I never heard of it, since a couple of weeks ago.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:33 pm
Steven Hawkings TheNinjaGoddess Armchair psychology people? Have any of you stopped to think, that maybe these people are entirely normal outside of the internet, and they just like to piss people off because they think it's funny. That one fellow said he trolled because he thought peoples reactions were funny, I'll take his word for it. Going off and claiming that trolls just want attention is stupid, I'm sure it's true for some, but by and large, most people troll because they think it's funny, at least, that's what the folks at 4chan have taught me. What's the personality that you noticed of these 4chan people? I never heard of it, since a couple of weeks ago. ummmm. imagine an antire futababa board full of people who troll, trying to troll each other....
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:47 pm
*Whistles a bit* everything from selectively stupid to just young to wanting attention ... The truth is a bit different though.
While some spammers probably ARE idiots or 5th graders - I think a large majority of them are just people who don't care. It's not that they don't care because their stupid - It's just they’re new on the Internet and don't quite understand "The Rules" of the net (and because of this think txt tlk and l337 ... as well as overused names of their favorite game/anime character)
A example of this would be one of my friends who in real life is a pretty cool guy ... however online he is a complete troll who tlks lik tis 4 evah. Of course when I try to explain that this sort of thing is looked down upon he simply says "The Internet Is Serious Business."
So just going back to the point I was trying to make. It's not per-say that they’re stupid or attention grabbing ... but they just don't care and we suffer because of it.
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