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 Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:42 pm
This sticky will be for suggestions! Post away whatever suggestions you have to make this guild a better place! The suggestions that are the most wanted will be noted in the Database announcement, and every single suggestion ever made will be listed with pros and cons in this post. I. An ED Subforum.- Pros: We could have extended discussions and debates with one another. In this manner we could learn more about each other, and have fun in the guild. - Cons: It could make people not feel like posting worth while posts and threads in the real ED forum, and it would thus be detrimental to our goal of making the ED a better forum. II. Many subforums for diffferent topics.- Pros: We could have places to talk about our specific interests, and we could have interesting discussions on these interests. We could learn more about these interests that we might not have know other wise. - Cons: Money (this would not be hard to solve, as I am not lacking in gold), in an ED setting, the same cons as above would apply, but in a GD setting, I'm not currently sure what a con to this suggestion would be. III. A HQ Subforum.- Pros: It would be a specific place to discuss exact plans on how to deal with spammers and trolls. - Cons: The main forum of this guild was designed to be the HQ, and it would take away from the main forum's purpose. IV. A GD Subforum.- Pros: We could have fun talking randomly with one another, we'd get a chance to relax, we'd learn more about one another, and in learning and communicating more with each other, we can become more united and more encourage to support each other. - Cons: It could get out of hand if people post spam, or something of that nature, and there's a high chance for fights since the GD forum would be a kind of free for all, and the common goal amongst us would not be in our main view. I thought this should be noticed by everyone:Yoshimasa_the_Radiant To create a GD subforum is a horrible idea. This guild was created with one purpose and one purpose only. To divert from this would be catastrophic. The creation of the GD subforum would distract from our job here and would create an environment in which the boundaries of the guild would not reach. Within this environment, the members of the guild would mingle. Sound, you have said yourself that this is a very diverse group and that you did not look at their skills in discussion or post history too much, but only at their desire to clean up the ED and the frequency of their literate posts in the ED. This is a recipe for disaster. Put all these people of varying beliefs, many contradictory, into a GD type area and let them loose and someone will get angry. The very idea of unity would be undermined! Schisms would develop and the guild will crumble. The very fate of our mission depends on the structure and organization of this guild. Why do you think the others fell?! Because they lost sight of the goal and were distracted and divided. We cannot allow all these members to congregate in such an area, nor can we allow ourselves to expand this guild beyond its set agenda. Do you want to see the threads of ED over-run by porn-trolls and the like? Do you want all of Gaia to be a 4chan wannabe? NO! Therefore, we must unite with a single purpose in mind, in a forum with no extraneous ideas. I plead with you members of the EDC, remember why we are here and our purpose! Do you not remember the words which were spoken in the very thread of our founding?! The ideas there were sound, but I cannot see them now. You have forgotten the basics of our creation and so forgotten the ED. Perhaps I am apocolyptic in my assumptions, perhaps I am a directionless extremist. However, will you take the chance that I am right? Will you take that leap of faith while the ED in the balance? ~Fin~ V. A Complete Black List of Spammers/Trolls- Pros: Everyone would be able to know which trolls are out there and they will be able to keep their ignore list up to date easily and efficiently. - Cons: None yet. VI. A Subforum for Records- Pros: Everyone could keep a record of good debates and post incase the thread gets destroyed. - Cons: Would it be too much trouble to copy and paste entire threads and debates, and would people actively update our records? Please post as many suggestions as you'd like, and please feel free to add pros and cons for each of the suggestions already made!
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:43 pm
I, for one, can't say that I'd have any qualms with such an organization. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:45 pm
I suggest a more generalization of the sub forums. Like science, health, sexuality, religion, politics and such.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:52 pm
Unfortunately I have no idea what it takes to make a subforum. Not sure if there is a limit or anything.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:55 pm
I think it takes 2K per subforum ...
so unless someone wants to cough up a donation item so we can have a
ED2 - Science
ED2 - Religion
ED2 - Politics
etc.
I think a single ED2 subforum would work.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:06 pm
Well, I am donating all of my gold each time I reach 300. There is no obligation of course.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:06 pm
I think that takes away from the desire to post your best threads in ED. I do not support it.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:15 pm
Actually, I agree with Iconoclast now. We are not here to reinstate ED in a new place, but to speak of petitions, proposals, and any general ideas. I am going to veto the idea for two subforums, and I propose only one now, that for the Advancement of the Coalition's Aims.
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The ED Coalition Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:21 pm
I find that our whole main forum is what is dedicated for the advancement of the coalition's aimes.
With a planning HQ, this main forum becomes almost purposeless.
I do not think an ED is necessary, but I think a more general post-whatever-you-feel-like subforum would work out better.
I think with this subforum we can just get to know each other better. It'd be like a GD, without the spam and trolling of the GD.
**EDIT**
I hope you don't mind December, but I'm going to hijack this thread and turn it into the general suggestions sticky.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:23 pm
Ok, I agree with that! After all, what is a Guild without co-operation? A Guild without members who are familiar with each other is really just a loose confederation of people with a general cause. If it takes 2k to make a subforum, we seem to have enough in the treasury now to do so, if you'd like.
EDIT: That's ok. mrgreen
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The ED Coalition Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:34 pm
I'd like to wait for more suggestions, and I was thinking about waiting two days to see the results of the poll I made in the Database announcement. If people would like subforum sooner, or if I see many requests for this subforum come in very soon, I will make the subforum sooner.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:21 pm
Like I have been saying, we nead a "super black list", for ofenders who have many mule acunts and/or creat a new acound frequntly to bypass the ignor lists. basicly, it would containe the posting charictoristics, name paterns, and ailuses of the worst desecraters of the ED. This way, we could keep our ignor lists updated more easly.
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The ED Coalition Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:40 pm
Reesane Like I have been saying, we nead a "super black list", for ofenders who have many mule acunts and/or creat a new acound frequntly to bypass the ignor lists. basicly, it would containe the posting charictoristics, name paterns, and ailuses of the worst desecraters of the ED. This way, we could keep our ignor lists updated more easly. Good plan! It's been added to the list.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:17 am
I believe we should try to keep this guild clean of anything besides our goal to prevent stagnation. It is unwise to elaborate unneededly. If you keep it pure, it will be much more effective. However, a subforum for petitions in particular might be useful.
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Yoshimasa_the_Radiant Crew
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The ED Coalition Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:16 pm
Yoshimasa_the_Radiant I believe we should try to keep this guild clean of anything besides our goal to prevent stagnation. It is unwise to elaborate unneededly. If you keep it pure, it will be much more effective. I understand your concern. I just hope that people will not get bored of the guild, or just get uninterested in it. I understand why people shouldn't, and so I can see how this is an unecessary concern, but I still have it because I really want people to love this guild, to be active in this guild, to be happy and comfortable in this guild, and to have fun in this guild. But I still acknowledge your very good point. Your point makes me feel that I should wait more for the imput of others. I have not heard a lot from people regarding this, and not a lot of people have voted in the polls. If there is a great amount of people urging me for this subforum I will then create it, but I will not create it if a good majority of people do not really want it. Quote: However, a subforum for petitions in particular might be useful. Hmm...interesting idea, but I was planning on adding into the database a post just for petitions, and I encourage people to just make new threads advertising their petitions against spam in the main forum. As of now we do not have many threads, so I don't think it will be a problem for people to make new threads about their petitions to save the ED. If there's a huge number of threads, then I will consider making a sbuforum just to talk about petitions, but for now, it's a purpose of the main forum to discuss petitions.
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