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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:38 pm
On every forum there is an inevitable repeat or simultaneous posting of two similar threads. There are simply no exceptions to this rule, but Gaia's ED (as of late, I notice) has become ridiculous for repeats.
My simple question is this: is there any way to propose an idea to stop repeats? "Newbs" are apparently not being educated about repeating another subject merely because they did not "see it". Realistically, deep down we all know that we want to create our own little thread to control. With this in mind, we should be fair and nice to those who repeat, but still educate them to look for a similar topic first.
I have seen at least six topics addressing homosexuality, all of them similar in wording and point of argument (if it all). There is NO reason for this to happen, and leads to congestion, which then allows spammers to feel safe in the mountain of similar threads.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:49 pm
to an extent, i can see the need to halt repeats. it clutters up gaia, wastes bandwidth, and people reiterate points proven wrong long ago.
however, i believe necro-posting is frowned on. so what is one to do if you know the topic has been addressed, you have new information but it's dropped down to the 10th page? <-- i realize this isn't the circumstance with ED at present. just simply a downside to preventing repeat threads.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:58 pm
If something drops to the 5th page or lower, I'd say people probably have forgotten about it. I just don't see the point in having the same topic addressed in five topics per page. razz
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:01 pm
Why not downgrade completely and have one thread for every discussion? There would maybe be two pages in all, and if you had something interesting to say on said topic, you would post it in the one already there. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about repeat threads, because anyone could easily look to see there was already one in existence.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:17 pm
Yoshimasa_the_Radiant Why not downgrade completely and have one thread for every discussion? There would maybe be two pages in all, and if you had something interesting to say on said topic, you would post it in the one already there. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about repeat threads, because anyone could easily look to see there was already one in existence. the problem i see with that is that just because something is homosexually related, posting in there to say "hey, what is the morality of lying about being homosexual?" when the topic at hand (most likely) is "morality of being homosexual" could derail the topic and cause mass confusion.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:23 pm
phoenix shadowwolf Yoshimasa_the_Radiant Why not downgrade completely and have one thread for every discussion? There would maybe be two pages in all, and if you had something interesting to say on said topic, you would post it in the one already there. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about repeat threads, because anyone could easily look to see there was already one in existence. the problem i see with that is that just because something is homosexually related, posting in there to say "hey, what is the morality of lying about being homosexual?" when the topic at hand (most likely) is "morality of being homosexual" could derail the topic and cause mass confusion. Well, why not post that in a thread about the morality of lying? That would make more sense.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:00 pm
I think it is inevitable that people would become confused with only one thread for each topic.
It'd be akin to a homosexuality subform within ED, or an atheism subforum. All I can see coming from such stickied threads is factionalism, like miniature guilds. Not sure.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:19 am
Yoshimasa_the_Radiant phoenix shadowwolf Yoshimasa_the_Radiant Why not downgrade completely and have one thread for every discussion? There would maybe be two pages in all, and if you had something interesting to say on said topic, you would post it in the one already there. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about repeat threads, because anyone could easily look to see there was already one in existence. the problem i see with that is that just because something is homosexually related, posting in there to say "hey, what is the morality of lying about being homosexual?" when the topic at hand (most likely) is "morality of being homosexual" could derail the topic and cause mass confusion. Well, why not post that in a thread about the morality of lying? That would make more sense. People don't want to talk about lying. They want to talk about sex.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:37 am
Personally, I would not mind repeat threads if the old thread has fallen behind the third page. If a newbie post a repeat thread, I would link them to the previous thread then let the repeat get closed. Necroing is okay if the poster really has something new to add, but the problem is that most necros are posting a point that has already been addressed.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:24 am
this is one thing that does NOT bother me.
i had a topic removed from ED last year because it was a "repeat" of another one (which languished on page 4 at the time).
to me, repeats are a sign of public interest, like a survey showing a high level of concern.
if these topics didnt matter to people, they wouldnt get brought up over and over.
it's ok to let people vent; givethem their free speech moment.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:22 pm
Yoshimasa_the_Radiant Why not downgrade completely and have one thread for every discussion? In a way, that's being worked on for a homosexuality thread. Progress is slow, but it is being worked on. I can't comment much on it though, as it's other people who are doing it. It's a little difficult though since homosexuality is such a broad topic. It might as well be a topic on "the Bible" as a whole. That would be too broad, and it'd be chatterboxed if it wasn't specific enough. So anyway, it's being worked on. There's hopes that it'll be stickied or what not so there'd be fewer threads on that. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:19 pm
For almost a year, I would report every single repeat thread.
Two-third of them were never moved. The problem is faulty moderators.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:22 pm
Simple solution - temporary bannings from the ED area for every repeat thread you post. A week for the first, two for the second, a month on the third, forever on the fourth. If you haven't caught on by then, well, you don't belong anyway. For a more complete explanation of how this would work, see my proposal in How are we going to help the ED?
Also, stickied super-topics for homosexuality, Internet dating and such - single threads with link compendiums, common facts, well-composed arguments (written by the ED's finest for the ED's finest at as unbiased a level as possible) and lists of relevant topics. ON THE TOP OF THE DAMN PAGE. That ought to catch some eyes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:29 pm
Emperor Fluffzorz Simple solution - temporary bannings from the ED area for every repeat thread you post. A week for the first, two for the second, a month on the third, forever on the fourth. If you haven't caught on by then, well, you don't belong anyway. For a more complete explanation of how this would work, see my proposal in How are we going to help the ED?Also, stickied super-topics for homosexuality, Internet dating and such - single threads with link compendiums, common facts, well-composed arguments (written by the ED's finest for the ED's finest at as unbiased a level as possible) and lists of relevant topics. ON THE TOP OF THE DAMN PAGE. That ought to catch some eyes. Those are great ideas, unfortunately I asked a mod about possibly stickying one of the homosexuality and abortion threads to decrease the repeats, but she said it wasn't necessary. sad
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:42 pm
paradoxical Emperor Fluffzorz Simple solution - temporary bannings from the ED area for every repeat thread you post. A week for the first, two for the second, a month on the third, forever on the fourth. If you haven't caught on by then, well, you don't belong anyway. For a more complete explanation of how this would work, see my proposal in How are we going to help the ED?Also, stickied super-topics for homosexuality, Internet dating and such - single threads with link compendiums, common facts, well-composed arguments (written by the ED's finest for the ED's finest at as unbiased a level as possible) and lists of relevant topics. ON THE TOP OF THE DAMN PAGE. That ought to catch some eyes. Those are great ideas, unfortunately I asked a mod about possibly stickying one of the homosexuality and abortion threads to decrease the repeats, but she said it wasn't necessary. sad It would help getting topics that should be discussed into light more, I mostly see is threads on homosexuality, I do think putting into one area would be better. It might curb the amount of threads created on this topic for repeats.
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