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There is no way to combat humanity. There will always be resourceful people who are desperate for attention, and will resort to stupidity. The lust for gold will not go away as long as there is a gold system on Gaia. I'm just here to organize.. I am not sure how we're going to do this.

I'll gladly help in the implementation. Is there any way to actually message the administrators of Gaia as one body, and demand TRUE mods be instated?

We don't need more mods, more rules, etc. as much as we need regulars to FOLLOW the rules. There's a few simple ways I think we may be able to help the current state of the ED:

1. Don't post in troll or spam threads. At all. Ever. If they don't get any attention, eventually they'll go away.

2. POST in threads that merit discussion. Go back to the third, fourth, fifth page if you have to. There's a lot of good material already in the ED that just needs to be revived.

3. Spam the ED. Not with worthless threads; with GOOD threads. I have two threads that I'm working on now, and several more ideas. Those of you that have ideas for good threads: write on them. Research your idea and put together an informative first post, and POST it.

For instance, the abortion debate. It addresses the legality of abortion and reasons it should remain legal, as well as arguements to make it illegal. But there's several facets not included in that debate. For instance:

arrow Father's say. "Financial abortion." There's a thread about it in ED, and it's garnered a lot of excellent discussion.
arrow Parent's say. Underage abortion. Should parents be able to force their children to carry or abort a child?
arrow Parental consent laws. The double standard in doctor-patient confidentiality because of them.

Two, possibly three, different threads on one topic, addressing different facets. It would bring intelligent discussion to the ED WITHOUT derailing the main debate on the legality of abortion (similar to the different discussions on gay pride, marriage adoption, etc...not that it stops noobs from attempting to derail the conversation anyway).

A lot of the "repeat" threads aren't really repeats or don't have to be repeats. Most popular topics in the ED have multiple facets that deserve different threads addressing them.

Those are good ideas, but they're not enough. Many of us have tried those things, but how can those do all the things we need done. Even if we did do those things, the spammers and trollers would overwhelm us. The majority fo the things suggested in this guild have been good ideas that need to happen. However, my point is how would they happen.

I said one jundred ED regulars. Not people who would sign. However, I doubt many people would want to sign, not if they realized exactly what we wanted done. We are extremists in their eyes. They would not want such strict enforcement of the rules. Most of the petitions that get through are simple things like layout changes and anime-themed items. You won't reach the masses with our message. We need to find a way to implement our ideas by unconventional means or they will never happen.

I know, to elaborate, I think there's more than 100 hundred. I think you should be more specific, do you mean every person who has ever been a regular, or just current regulars? Do you mean people who post mostly in ED, instead of posting regularly in ED and other forums? By regularly, every week, every day, whenever they get online? People just in ED main, or people from ED main and the subforums.
These specifications can definitely change your number, but I realize that this wasn't your main point, so I'll just leave it alone.

This is what I disagree with.
Some people will definitely feel like that; those people are inevitable, but I beleive that there are people in other forums who have a respect for each forum's rules, and I believe that there are people who will be empathetic with our situation. Think of regulars of other forums, and I am not meaning just people who post in the chatterbox, but people who post in the Art Forum, the Computer and Technology forum, and so on.
You have made a hasty generalization of each of every Gaia member whom you would not consider an ED regular.

I still choose to remain optimistic on the petitions, I can get things going for the petitions. I have my ways. ninja

Anyways, I understand what you're trying to say.
Give me a few days to dwell on your suggestion of unconvential means. I currently cannot think of any, but I will try my hardest to come up with them. I see the need for them, and I think that with all the brilliance in this guild, we will be able to devise many uncovential means to get what we want.

We can't expect to do everything with just one guild. The ED has become spam-ridden and we will need to work very hard to make any progress at all. I know that there will be no miracle cures. Only a few of the ideas suggested were actually possible without making changes to the website; those are the ones we'll use. However, I do believe that if we work hard enough, we'll be able to make a difference in the quality of content in the extended discussion. We already have lots of oppurtunities, and we've been active. The guild has existed for what, three days? We already have over a hundred members. And have you noticed that practically all of the spam threads have been reported?

Are people seriously pushing for a test for intelligence? neutral