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 Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:28 pm
Since I got a pretty good response for the last topic that I posted ('Symbolism in The Nightmare Before Christmas'), I took it upon myself to post another one focusing on a film with a broader range of symbolism, and hopefully it can generate more discussion.
An obvious example is how the dark, abandoned mansion overlooks a neighborhood of brightly-coloured, pastel suburban households, which represents Edward's isolation from the cutesy, careless world that rests outside.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:44 pm
I think Edward's scissors are a symbol of emotionally not being able to connect with people, but for him it's literal.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:22 pm
The very end, the last scene with the professor, when Edward almost gets his hands, and loses them. Then there was the final scene with Edward and Kim, and how she had to leave him forever. How he lived and was loved by the neighbors, up until Jim used him to break into his house, and thus he lost everything he had gained.
To me, all of it represents Edward being so close to having his dream, only to have it shattered. The snow from his ice sculptures, I feel, represents how he copes with those lost dreams, that while he, himself, cannot have them, he can give them to others to enjoy.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:24 pm
NitrusOxide I think Edward's scissors are a symbol of emotionally not being able to connect with people, but for him it's literal. I believe Burton said in the director's commentary, or on one of the special features, that this was part of the fairytale, having a character who wanted to touch, but could not without breaking something.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:03 pm
Nightmare1 The very end, the last scene with the professor, when Edward almost gets his hands, and loses them. Then there was the final scene with Edward and Kim, and how she had to leave him forever. How he lived and was loved by the neighbors, up until Jim used him to break into his house, and thus he lost everything he had gained. To me, all of it represents Edward being so close to having his dream, only to have it shattered. The snow from his ice sculptures, I feel, represents how he copes with those lost dreams, that while he, himself, cannot have them, he can give them to others to enjoy. Your first example is kind of literal as opposed to symbolic, but I like the second example you mentioned. I think in a way the entire Edward character represents Tim Burton, whether it was intended or not. Like Burton, Edward is an artist -- detached, misunderstood, and beautiful.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:40 pm
I would say the first example is a bit both, literal and figurative.
And I would agree about Edward represnting Burton---he even has Tim Burton's hairstyle.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:14 pm
Nightmare1 I would say the first example is a bit both, literal and figurative. And I would agree about Edward represnting Burton---he even has Tim Burton's hairstyle. Artists seem to do that A LOT. Myself included.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:39 am
AUTOPSY.barbie.D0LL Nightmare1 I would say the first example is a bit both, literal and figurative. And I would agree about Edward represnting Burton---he even has Tim Burton's hairstyle. Artists seem to do that A LOT. Myself included.
Poor Timmy! crying
Though now he has so many psychotic fangirls, it must be kind of hard to feel unloved. x3
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:25 am
and of course stereotypes is a big factor...
just because he looks/dresses different people see him as some sort of freak and do not allow themselves to see what edward is really like, and to try and get along with him.
(note: i knew what i was trying to write. but i could not word it that well. hopefully you all know what i mean)
eg. stereotyping as a freak, not thinking of his individual differences/personality.
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:38 pm
To me, some of Edward symbolizes how fast society will change their minds about things. Like Joyce, for example, she likes Edward in the first half, then changes to thinking he's a madman just a few days later!
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:05 pm
Tim burton Fan Forever! To me, some of Edward symbolizes how fast society will change their minds about things. Like Joyce, for example, she likes Edward in the first half, then changes to thinking he's a madman just a few days later! I can't believe I didn't even consider that... xd
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:06 pm
NitrusOxide AUTOPSY.barbie.D0LL Nightmare1 I would say the first example is a bit both, literal and figurative. And I would agree about Edward represnting Burton---he even has Tim Burton's hairstyle. Artists seem to do that A LOT. Myself included.
Poor Timmy! crying
Though now he has so many psychotic fangirls, it must be kind of hard to feel unloved. x3Haha...What? Who is this Timmy you speak of?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:19 pm
Tim Burton, of course. ^^
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:34 pm
Nightmare1 Tim Burton, of course. ^^ Oh! haha...*cerebral poot*
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:04 pm
Tim burton Fan Forever! To me, some of Edward symbolizes how fast society will change their minds about things. Like Joyce, for example, she likes Edward in the first half, then changes to thinking he's a madman just a few days later!
But y'know, she's a ho. xd
She liked Edward sort of as a fad. She was all into him and then a few days later scissors are 'out'.
Speaking of how fast people change their opinions, remember that crazy uber-religous lady and how everyone thought she was insane? But then all of a sudden they were on her side.
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