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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:04 pm
Well, to put it simply, of late the only thing my mind seems to be able to think about is this bunch of negative feelings that seems to be growing larger and larger no matter what I do; I think it might be trying to manifest itself in my conscious mind now.
Well, at first I just thought it was part of my normal misanthropic tendancies. (Heh, those probably aren't helping this get any better.) But then it was almost as if something were speaking to me. Not quite in words, but in the most basic subconscious wavelength that can be described somewhat as a definition. The meaning put behind something without the use of words having to act as a medium. And it was telling me to completely shut out everyone else so I'd one day be ready to just go out and kill people randomly. That's what initially freaked me out.
So, I went to one of my friends and told her about it. She said it was probably just a lot of held up negative feelings and energy, and suggested anger management of some sort, baths with an essence that she gave me (can't remember what it was; lavender?), and meditation. So, I tried all that. And, I'll be damned, it worked!...Or so I thought. Those feelings and that calling were all back within two days as if I'd not done anything at all.
That's when I tried to actually answer it, but not hurt anyone else. I went to rending my own flesh, since that's what it wanted. (Hurt like a b***h. >.<) That seemed to make things better, especially when the cuts would bleed. The thing calling to me in my mind was perfectly okay with that. Only, when my parents found out, they of course weren't. So that method went flying out the window.
Now I find that calling growing stronger. I don't even have to have some kind of outside stimulus now; I can get angry off of my thoughts alone. When I /do/ have an outside stimulus contributing to it, I wind up baring my teeth down to the point that it would hurt (if I were focused enough), going into something of a subconscious state, and literally seeing red. It only seems to last in quick little impulses, though, so I haven't done anything. Though, judging from how this thing's developing, I'm pretty sure that if I don't catch it beforehand I /will/ do something when I go into that weird state of mind. Oh, and my the way: those little impulses of rage occur at least three times a day. At least. (I'm lucky; nobody around me seems to notice it. Or, rather, I'm /un/lucky. Dx)
Anybody know what the hell's going on, or how I can stop it?
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:12 am
I haven't heard of anything like that... I will keep thinking about it, I'm in problem solving mode now. I hope someone else can help more than I
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:44 am
Quote: I haven't heard of anything like that... I will keep thinking about it, I'm in problem solving mode now. I hope someone else can help more than I Thanks for the help. ^^ But, damn, if this is a relatively new or rare case of something-or-other, then I have the feeling I'll end up being "in deep s**t." x.x
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:44 am
Whoa, eerily similar to something I went through years ago. To make a long story short, in my case it was me segmenting off and ignoring parts of my personality that I deemed "unacceptable" (like when I'd feel angry or depressed, which family and friends just didn't want to see), until those segments more or less started going crazy and doing hurtful things to get my attention. Took a lot of honest self-examination and some trial and error as far as accepting all aspects of my own personality, but I feel I'm a stronger and better person for it. Also definitely much saner - unlike most people, I don't try to shut off socially uncomfortable parts of me.
So there's that. Really check in with that one, because I think it's the more common of the two answers.
The other possibility (yes, I've seen it, it's one of the things I've been trained to treat) is that you've got a hitchhiker on board. They tend to be confused entities who will latch onto someone during a moment of weakness, and will manifest as not feeling like yourself, like someone else is in the driver's seat, so to speak. They can cause usually-sane and happy people to engage in self-harming behavior, or to act hurtful toward friends and family, or to just act strange and creepy - but when asked, the person won't know why they did it. The Chinese name for this type of entity is "gui" (GWAY), depicted as a spirit with a hook on it, more or less a spiritual burr. (I posted this in another thread in this forum, in case it's sounding familiar.)
If it's an entity of some kind, you'll probably need outside assistance. It's extremely rare for someone to be able to perform an exorcism on himself. Really, though, give the first option a thorough check before deciding it's an entity forcing your hand. Both situations can appear very similar and, while extensive self-discovery sounds like a real pain in the a**, it really is the easier of the two options. Exorcism doesn't end with the ceremony - if you're not prepared to do some serious building up of boundaries, the thing will get right back in.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:47 pm
Quote: Whoa, eerily similar to something I went through years ago. To make a long story short, in my case it was me segmenting off and ignoring parts of my personality that I deemed "unacceptable" (like when I'd feel angry or depressed, which family and friends just didn't want to see), until those segments more or less started going crazy and doing hurtful things to get my attention. Took a lot of honest self-examination and some trial and error as far as accepting all aspects of my own personality, but I feel I'm a stronger and better person for it. Also definitely much saner - unlike most people, I don't try to shut off socially uncomfortable parts of me. So there's that. Really check in with that one, because I think it's the more common of the two answers. The other possibility (yes, I've seen it, it's one of the things I've been trained to treat) is that you've got a hitchhiker on board. They tend to be confused entities who will latch onto someone during a moment of weakness, and will manifest as not feeling like yourself, like someone else is in the driver's seat, so to speak. They can cause usually-sane and happy people to engage in self-harming behavior, or to act hurtful toward friends and family, or to just act strange and creepy - but when asked, the person won't know why they did it. The Chinese name for this type of entity is "gui" (GWAY), depicted as a spirit with a hook on it, more or less a spiritual burr. (I posted this in another thread in this forum, in case it's sounding familiar.) If it's an entity of some kind, you'll probably need outside assistance. It's extremely rare for someone to be able to perform an exorcism on himself. Really, though, give the first option a thorough check before deciding it's an entity forcing your hand. Both situations can appear very similar and, while extensive self-discovery sounds like a real pain in the a**, it really is the easier of the two options. Exorcism doesn't end with the ceremony - if you're not prepared to do some serious building up of boundaries, the thing will get right back in. Okay! The first one seems to be more similar to what's going on. But, uh, might I inquire as to how I should balance the rest of my life? (Fifteen-year-old highschool student, one honors class, one foreign language, and the other two don't really exist. Currently pursuing a love interest. Slight family problems at home that require at least minimal work from every family member to resolve. Only child. Two parents. Video game addict.)
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:59 pm
whiskers210 Quote: Whoa, eerily similar to something I went through years ago. To make a long story short, in my case it was me segmenting off and ignoring parts of my personality that I deemed "unacceptable" (like when I'd feel angry or depressed, which family and friends just didn't want to see), until those segments more or less started going crazy and doing hurtful things to get my attention. Took a lot of honest self-examination and some trial and error as far as accepting all aspects of my own personality, but I feel I'm a stronger and better person for it. Also definitely much saner - unlike most people, I don't try to shut off socially uncomfortable parts of me. So there's that. Really check in with that one, because I think it's the more common of the two answers. The other possibility (yes, I've seen it, it's one of the things I've been trained to treat) is that you've got a hitchhiker on board. They tend to be confused entities who will latch onto someone during a moment of weakness, and will manifest as not feeling like yourself, like someone else is in the driver's seat, so to speak. They can cause usually-sane and happy people to engage in self-harming behavior, or to act hurtful toward friends and family, or to just act strange and creepy - but when asked, the person won't know why they did it. The Chinese name for this type of entity is "gui" (GWAY), depicted as a spirit with a hook on it, more or less a spiritual burr. (I posted this in another thread in this forum, in case it's sounding familiar.) If it's an entity of some kind, you'll probably need outside assistance. It's extremely rare for someone to be able to perform an exorcism on himself. Really, though, give the first option a thorough check before deciding it's an entity forcing your hand. Both situations can appear very similar and, while extensive self-discovery sounds like a real pain in the a**, it really is the easier of the two options. Exorcism doesn't end with the ceremony - if you're not prepared to do some serious building up of boundaries, the thing will get right back in. Okay! The first one seems to be more similar to what's going on. But, uh, might I inquire as to how I should balance the rest of my life? (Fifteen-year-old highschool student, one honors class, one foreign language, and the other two don't really exist. Currently pursuing a love interest. Slight family problems at home that require at least minimal work from every family member to resolve. Only child. Two parents. Video game addict.) Ok, this seems to make more sense now. The first thing sounds like the Yungian shadow, a personification of everything you don't like about yourself. You have to come to terms and reintigrate it into yourself if you want to live healthily. But I would look up that more extensively if you think that's what it is.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:20 pm
Hate to be nit-picky... but it is "Jung" not "Yung."
He is right though, it is the Jungian shadow (still pronounced like it was a Y, not a J) that represents all you dislike about yourself.
You could try and develop centrist tendencies.
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:08 am
Khalida Nyoka Hate to be nit-picky... but it is "Jung" not "Yung." He is right though, it is the Jungian shadow (still pronounced like it was a Y, not a J) that represents all you dislike about yourself. You could try and develop centrist tendencies. Damnit, I was spelling it wrong.
Now explain centrist tendencies.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:50 pm
Off the cuff, I *think* that means find the middle ground, avoid extremes. But don't quote me - I gave birth a few weeks ago, and the ol' vocab has quite a few holes in it. sweatdrop
My take - just keep in mind what it is, pick at the knots whenever you get the urge, and it'll unravel a little at a time. I remember reading about the Jungian shadow and it didn't really resound with me, but maybe it was the pedantic way the textbook defined it. It's difficult to coldly categorize your own emotions when it feels like you're going crazy. I tend to think of it as, you're dealing with a lot, and all this emotional turmoil is happening but you don't have time to deal with it right now, so it gets shunted to the side to be dealt with when you can.
The other thing to keep in mind is that adolescence is pretty much a prolonged period of insanity, and that the only way out is through. I'm not trying to be condescending - I remember it, and it roundly sucked. You're not alone, and you're not batshit ******** loco. You'll do okay. Also, I found it helped to think of my parents as just people. That way, I was able to both empathize and know that their problems were not my problems.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:53 pm
Quote: The other thing to keep in mind is that adolescence is pretty much a prolonged period of insanity, and that the only way out is through. I'm not trying to be condescending - I remember it, and it roundly sucked. You're not alone, and you're not batshit ******** loco. You'll do okay. Also, I found it helped to think of my parents as just people. That way, I was able to both empathize and know that their problems were not my problems. Seriously? Never thought I actually had any problems with adolescence itself. xD Anyways, I pretty much do that stuff and have that general mindset already, so that's not a problem at all. Huzzah for me. :3 I think...x.x Dammit, why am I using all these smilies? O.o There it is again! Dx AAAH! Okay, seriously though, I've been working reeeeeal hard to try and get this under control (well, that's the best I can word it as, at least), and no matter how much I try, that...er...unhappy part of my mind (I'm going to call it Lexi, for the time being. :3 Yay! blaugh Lexi! It's amazing what you get when scrambling around your own name...Wow.) just always seems like something totally detatched from me. The more I try to accept it as simply a part of me that I've been rejecting all along, or at least come to terms with the fact that it /is/ a part of me, the more it seems like something separate. It's like, every time that I try to accept some of that as part of my normal feelings (just like it /should/ be) then it's like it tries to take over my poor, pitiful brain. (Since we all know it's probably shriveled to the size of a raisin by now...well, maybe not a raisin.) So...am I...doin' something wrong here? Do I need to be doing something more than just monitoring my emotions, thinking, and meditation? When I do stuff like this and something goes wrong, it always feels like I'm screwing up sooo bad. x.x Also, I don't know why this didn't come to mind earlier, but a couple of years ago I tried to split my mind into two halves. Not any particular halves, just enough to be able to control both and at the same time carry on two thought processes at the same time, as if there would be two people and yet one. It ended in a miserable failure, of course, since I was just barely getting into middle school and wasn't well-versed in...well, anything (save standard school work and video games, of course). I guess I didn't think of it before since I pretty much gave up after about a week or so. The thought occurred to me that I might've actually done something back then. Though, I seriously doubt it, it's still a possibility? Maybe? I dunno, I still think I'm just screwing up in what I /should/ be doing. Dx Or overreacting. Or both. Or...uhm...yeah...overreacting. >.< Okay, I feel stupid now and shall stop typing.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:34 am
Um, have you ever heard that when you give a thing a name, you give it power? Yeah. Basically, you've had the idea of a separate self that's still a part of you for a while, sounds like. So it's going to take on a bit of independence, based on how you've personified it. Yeah, most people do this to some extent, so no need to panic. It'll get more distinct now that you've given it a name (yes, even if it was a joke or you didn't mean it like that - it's part of human nature).
So take a look at what it is that you like or dislike about the behavior you associate with "Lexi". Maybe there are aspects you really like but don't feel you yourself could pull off. Maybe there are some repugnant traits - things you would *never* do, think, or say. Either way (and it's probably a mix), those are clues. They aren't mandates that you take on the behavior. Quite frankly, after being pushed aside for quite some time, the traits radicalize. For example, "Lexi" wanting to scream loudly and punch random people in the gut doesn't mean you should. It might mean that "Lexi" doesn't take criticism to heart, or that "Lexi" is able to voice her objections without feeling intimidated. Follow the disturbing feelings back, listen for repeats (I'm assuming here that you can sort of hear a separate voice in your head), etc. You're looking for "Lexi's" inner truth. It's probably something you need.
And yeah, keep in mind sometimes things get worse before they get better.
(*) I've just thought of something odd. When I was having problems with this, I was also having problems with systemic yeast infections (yeast in the bloodstream, which can cause nasty mental imbalances). Might you be having some sort of mild allergic reaction? That can intensify feelings of being full of rage and/or under attack. So can mild dehydration. I'm sorry I didn't think to ask before, but it can be a contributing factor. Check "Hidden Food Allergies" by Stephen Astor, M.D. and see if any of that applies to you. 'S hella cheaper than visiting an allergist.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:26 am
um hi i would just like to say that i have been were you are almost to a tee, but i am also a loner so when it started ( i was around thirteen) no body notice, i ended up taking a nick name and called my self my old name when i did something i didn’t like. what i found that worked was reading gory books or writing in great detail the most homicidal thing i could. i used a creative outlet for it, i don’t know how well it will work for you but that is what i did, if you want I can pm you a story that might work.
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