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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:39 pm
Now, I wish to bring this to full attention to any and all people here. The rise of "Master/Slave" topics on Gaia have been getting out of hand lately with a lot of "Boys pin the girls on the wall and kiss them rough v2.5" type topics have been a major annoyance for a handful of people on Gaia. Also a majority of these topics, though look PG-13 from the title, some who can't keep it PG-13 will go and make it either R or full blown NC-17.
Also, I can't say this to be true or not, but from the types of posts that I've read it looks like they can be under the age of 14 that are participating in these types of threads. I don't say I participate in these now, I might have when they first poped up, but then it was all respectful and was truly kept PG-13. But I do from time to time go in to read a few of these to my amusement but get horidly sick at how sometimes its horridly detailed.
I believe it to be the cause of these types of topics to be the works of Noobs, Not Newbies. There is a major distinctive difference in the two. A Noob is someone who uses way too much chat and L337 Speak and would beg and annoy you to give gold. Newbies on the other hand are begginners to Gaia and would like some help from veteran Gaians. A majority of my Newbie Gaian friends would have quit because they saw so many of the "master/slave" topics in chatterbox since its typically the first place that newbies would go after the Welcome to Gaia Threads.
I just want to have a discussion about this situation that is plaguing the Chatterbox a for a bit and get some feedback on this. A group of friends started a guild called "Revolution" and is currently Recruiting for members that are fed up with these types of topics being a commonplace on Gaia. As well as chain letters, spamming and beggings. But the majority is because of the NooB problem that they feel is taking over.
Though I share in their views. It is in my belief that the NooB problem is a common problem for all webforums, not just Gaia, but there is something we as a community can do about the rampid "Master/Slave" Topics.
Since this is a Community, I find it rather strange that in an actualy society community anything that is Sex wise is kept private, behind closed doors, never out in the open. But if in an actual community you find out that there is a "Child Molestor" or a "Sex Offender" as a community they gather and wish to remove these types of people from their respeced community.
Now lets turn face and see this in the Gaia Perspective. Many people on gaia from their webforum browsing find special someones, but its all done through private or social type topics that they happen to be in. Communications between them stay on PMs and on a few topics they frequently visit. Those are private/open relationships that can inturn be the private, behind closed doors typse from a real life community.
Now these topics of "master/slave" are the Child Molestors and Sex offenders of Gaia. But as a community we do nothing about them and don't want them out, or at least to a very minimum exposure to the main forums. I know that its impossible to be rid of them all, but if we can at least reduce the number of them by 1% maybe the overall experience of New Gaia Community Members wont be distraught by seeing a lot of "Master/Slave" topics and more topics on general stuff.
Basically I bring to the table a few questions to you: What are your thoughts on this? Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads?
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:45 pm
What are your thoughts on this? I run the guild against them. My thoughts are simply "It needs to stop." Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Well CB is n00blet central, its hard to avoid the topics in there. But there could be less of them. Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Yes, I refer to your Gaian Chaos Theory. As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? Of course we can. People are the problem, and people can be the solution.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:06 pm
What are your thoughts on this? i agree with you, not only because of the rise in numbers, the lack of respectable threads and the fact that grossly enough most of them are run by 9 yr olds (*shudders*) but because you've seen the same change i have in the way the threads are run. i was on an Angel/Vampire Slave thread and it was very fun and enjoyable..... but then some n00b came in and ruined the whole experiance for me.
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? yes, i believe so. Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? yes. and the spikes come in waves, usually on friday nights i see about 15 more new slave/master type threads than on any other day of the week. and that's just on the first page. it's also infecting the gaia roleplay threads.
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? i hope we can, cause i can't do it alone
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:21 pm
What are your thoughts on this? Master/Slave topics are the spawn of society's collapse into the belief sex=cool
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Well, they need noobs to post that topic, so I would say yes.
Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Unfortunately yes, even outside of the CB. They have entered into art shops, charities, and wormed into people's signatures.
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? Hence the beginning of the Revolution. We can overcome this disgusting clump of thread porn with the Revolution.
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Boblina the Heffulump Crew
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:40 pm
What are your thoughts on this? Sex, as I see it, is a physical expression of two [legal] people who want to feel even closer in their relationship. But after looking through those s/M posts...in reality, these kids are actually describing "rough sex" or "angry sex" and not a true, healthy Master/Slave relationship. *shrug* They're in love with the idea but there's a LOT that goes into that kind of world and these kids think "OOH! HANDCUFFS! I'M DANGEROUS! LOLZ!" And it's bad when some of these kids think that's what they're gonna experience and actually start to experiment with that sort of kink and realize that it's not what they think.
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? High? It hit the roof and skyrocketed out of the stratosphere.
Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Duh. Anytime you click on chatterbox, something of that path dominates the front page.
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? It won't be long before pissed parents start to do the same thing they did to myspace et al: Blame that their 12 year old got raped because of someone they met on Gaia. I really hope we can stop this before it gets THAT out of hand.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:17 pm
What are your thoughts on this? totally agree, newbs aren't the problem, noobs are. they are really under aged and moderators don't ban topics. about sex topics, they should chat somewhere else about that, what does gaia got to do with that¿?
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? so high it reached a black hole, but actually ate it. (the thread ate the black hole, fisically impossible... till now)
Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? yes i did
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? with a sort of luck on our side yes. we have either 2 options, make a huge revolution, creating lots of lag, hundreds of topics in matter of seconds, claiming justice, new moderators, and respect to the others, or we could send tons of pm to moderators, admins, and top players asking for help.
or in my opinion the best, before doing the first one, send a warning about what we are going to do, they ignore us and we do it, to show them that we are serious.
(we could do all the lag with firefox, opening lots of urls of gaia at the time, putting thing in marketplace and changing them over and over, we can creat tons of users, mess everyhthing up)
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:18 pm
What are your thoughts on this? I feel it is an aberration and distorts the meaning and purpose of Gaia. Sure, people are supposed to meet new people on Gaia. But if they want dating sites, then they should go to dating sites. Gaia is made for meeting in a friendly manner, not for sexual activity. If this continues, Gaia will have the same situation as MySpace, and will be banned from computers and such. I also feel that the mods are not doing a good job at watching what's put in as topics. They act like they are blind to the existance of these threads, and let them continually bash away at the overall Gaian experience. Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Yes. Along with that, if you speak out against these topics, you get reported by a gang of n00bs. The mods don't care if you're trying to help Gaia or not in this aspect. Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Yes. As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? I am not good at coming up with ways to solve these problems, but the most obvious thing I can think of is to message a few mods about it. There is another way I'm thinking about, and that's each person who feels strongly about this, sends a handwritten letter to Gaia HQ, which is Gaia Interactive, Inc., located at: PMB 414, 105 Serra Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 or send an email to: service@gaiaonline.com.
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:14 pm
Some new questions brought up from the topic from the one I have going on in the Extended Discussion Thread:
5) Will the addition of more Moderators to control the flow of these types of topics be helpful?
6) Place a Sticky topic for the "Master/Slave" style topics so that its easily monitored and could possible decrease the number of other topics?
7) What is the Difference between a healthy "Master/Slave" relationship and the types of "Master/Slave" relationships that happen in a majority of the "Master/Slave" topics?
cool Some people have brought up the topic of needing more mods before, but now i've seen that the Mods need to be more strict. How much more strict do the Mods have to be in order to control this problem?
9) Gaia has gotten better in use wise yes, but has the overall quality of Gaia gone up since its updates? and is Gaia for stupid people?? (raised by gigacannon)
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:32 pm
What are your thoughts on this? The slave rps are ok in a sense if they don't go too far, and if they follow the TOS, but some seem like they may get out of hand... In addition, Yuki is correct, if these kids are so young then they should not be making them. Depending on the persons age, they should be able to create certain types of threads. However, people can lie about their age and create any thread they want, so I guess that doesn't really work. Something does need to be done though...
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Definitely. You know what should happen, if we can't get rid of the number of n00bs, then we should have them all join the same type of threads so they can do what they do to everyone else, to themselves. That way they won't bug everyone else and then eventually maybe they would get out of the habit of doing it, because they don't like it done to them.
Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Definitely. Every time you go onto a page, you see at least a couple. It just goes to show you that each person wants power and that they don't care much for the human race... or they just don't have a life and want to follow everyone else so more and more of these idiotic threads are created. I don't think I ever saw one of those types of threads 4 years ago...
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? The only real solution we have is to talk to the administators. We ourselves don't have that much power. We can try to keep people from joining those threads or try to keep people from making them, but that is about it.
Will the addition of more Moderators to control the flow of these types of topics be helpful? It might, but the moderators may have many other things to do, and you can't have too many moderators or else things may become confusing and information may become mixed and confusing.
Place a Sticky topic for the "Master/Slave" style topics so that its easily monitored and could possible decrease the number of other topics? They should probably create a separate section for the Master/Slave rps so that they are not getting in the way of people trying to find other threads. In addition, if they had their one section it would probably be a lot easier to monitor since they are all there and not other threads, which could make the slave threads harder to find.
What is the Difference between a healthy "Master/Slave" relationship and the types of "Master/Slave" relationships that happen in a majority of the "Master/Slave" topics? I am not really sure, because I tend to ignore those threads and not go into them. I can only guess how much worse they have become. Some people have brought up the topic of needing more mods before, but now i've seen that the Mods need to be more strict. How much more strict do the Mods have to be in order to control this problem? Well, if Mods are too soft, then nothing will get down. You should be given one warning, and if you can't follow that one warning then that should be it. The person should lose all rights to whatever it was they disobeyed.
Gaia has gotten better in use wise yes, but has the overall quality of Gaia gone up since its updates? and is Gaia for stupid people?? Personally, I liked the way gaia was 4 years ago, but that is just me. I don't think gaia is for stupid people, because this is a place where people can come together and see each other. In addition, there are many types of threads and guilds you can join that are so diversified. I fail to see how gaia would bring stupid people. Stupid people can join any website, and every website will have some.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:03 pm
What are your thoughts on this? My thought are as follows: I remember a time back when Gaia was only a year old and I had jsut joined. I found the many RP topics thrilling. There were none of these Slave/Master RP, or at least they were very rare and didn't go to the extent of what they have become today. It scares me.
Is the NooB threat definatley High with a lot NooB type topics? Yes, very much so. I've had many times complete and random people who have just joined PM me with many annoying and disturbing things.
Have you noticed a spike in the number of "Master/Slave" Topics Poping up on Gaia? Yes, I have. I completly avoid places like the Chatterbox, unless I'm bored to death.
As a Community, is can we ban together and find a proper solution to reduce the number of these types of threads? We'd better, or else Gaia may not be a safe haven for users anymore.
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Twisted Angel of Darkness
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:57 pm
Thiese thread are a problem we all agree that. They may start out innocent, but they quickly get out of hand. I agrre that they can get up into the R and NC-17 ratings really quickly. Here might be a possilbe solution.
Many of us might remember certain threads call "highest donator contests." You know the person that donates the most get the item being given away. I myself exposed multiple ones of these as scams, including the imfamous Ninja Headband highest donator contest on multiple occasions. Eventually the admins banned highest donator contests cause the possibility of it being as scam was probable cause enough to get them banned. So why can't we do the same thing about these slave threads?
I say we collect evidence. Lot and lots of it. Present a case showing that these slave threads often if not always end up with R/NC-17 content to the admins. If we're lucky we'll win. When I mean collect evidence I mean screencap it.
Good idea or no?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:06 pm
Twisted Angel of Darkness Thiese thread are a problem we all agree that. They may start out innocent, but they quickly get out of hand. I agrre that they can get up into the R and NC-17 ratings really quickly. Here might be a possilbe solution. Many of us might remember certain threads call "highest donator contests." You know the person that donates the most get the item being given away. I myself exposed multiple ones of these as scams, including the imfamous Ninja Headband highest donator contest on multiple occasions. Eventually the admins banned highest donator contests cause the possibility of it being as scam was probable cause enough to get them banned. So why can't we do the same thing about these slave threads? I say we collect evidence. Lot and lots of it. Present a case showing that these slave threads often if not always end up with R/NC-17 content to the admins. If we're lucky we'll win. When I mean collect evidence I mean screencap it. Good idea or no? I'm in great favor of this. I'm not sure if they care if it's NC-17/R, though. Hopefully they will.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:29 am
Twisted Angel of Darkness Thiese thread are a problem we all agree that. They may start out innocent, but they quickly get out of hand. I agrre that they can get up into the R and NC-17 ratings really quickly. Here might be a possilbe solution. Many of us might remember certain threads call "highest donator contests." You know the person that donates the most get the item being given away. I myself exposed multiple ones of these as scams, including the imfamous Ninja Headband highest donator contest on multiple occasions. Eventually the admins banned highest donator contests cause the possibility of it being as scam was probable cause enough to get them banned. So why can't we do the same thing about these slave threads? I say we collect evidence. Lot and lots of it. Present a case showing that these slave threads often if not always end up with R/NC-17 content to the admins. If we're lucky we'll win. When I mean collect evidence I mean screencap it. Good idea or no? I think it is a great idea. Although, I think that when we do it, each person should look for certain things, or have groups of people look for certain things so we aren't all looking for the same thing. We need to find as many things as we can to get rid of these places.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:49 am
My view towards the rise in master/slave topics is, shock. I agree with everyone else. The noobs on here are young and are exploring into subject matter that's turning inapproprite. You would think with an imagination that they would be able to think of a more decent type of RP.
Gaia hasn't held down the foundation that it begun with, and I for one, will be sad to see Gaia lost, just because noobs are lowering the standards.
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Boblina the Heffulump Crew
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:45 pm
Twisted Angel of Darkness Thiese thread are a problem we all agree that. They may start out innocent, but they quickly get out of hand. I agrre that they can get up into the R and NC-17 ratings really quickly. Here might be a possilbe solution. Many of us might remember certain threads call "highest donator contests." You know the person that donates the most get the item being given away. I myself exposed multiple ones of these as scams, including the imfamous Ninja Headband highest donator contest on multiple occasions. Eventually the admins banned highest donator contests cause the possibility of it being as scam was probable cause enough to get them banned. So why can't we do the same thing about these slave threads? I say we collect evidence. Lot and lots of it. Present a case showing that these slave threads often if not always end up with R/NC-17 content to the admins. If we're lucky we'll win. When I mean collect evidence I mean screencap it. Good idea or no? It is a very good idea, if we send enough of them the MODs can't ignore it, whether they like it or not. My only issue is.... .... How do you screencap? (NEWB QUESTION) X_X
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