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 Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:35 am
Ehm: a person >.< Uhh Evolved This Is Reality Not Pokèmon Look, this is a very serious problem. Every time I go into the ED, I come across some one who writes something like the above quote. It makes debating *very* frustrating, especially when it involves science, religion, or technology (Misconseption: science is actually not the same as technology). My suggestion would be to put up a sticky with the proper definitions and terms in it. However, I doubt people would use it. Discuss: -Why people do this -How it can be stopped On a side note, feel free to post any gems you have found as examples.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:57 am
before I discuss anything, please at least edit your grammar... your mistakes are very annoying. thank you.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:14 pm
Hellfinger before I discuss anything, please at least edit your grammar... your mistakes are very annoying. thank you. Please read her signature. Specifically, this bit: Ignore the bad spelling, I am doing my best sweatdrop Then, please learn the definition of grammar. Her grammar was perfect. Her spelling wasn't. Your spelling was perfect. Your grammar wasn't. The remedy? Please capitalise at the beginning of sentences. Thank you. EDIT: you have a spelling error in your signature. You want "sense", not "sence".
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:36 pm
You want to be careful pointing out some ones mistakes in open ED forums. People quite commonly come across as grammar nazis, even though that wasn't there intentions.
This type of corrective reminders are best kept in PM's.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:22 am
SilverDratini Hellfinger before I discuss anything, please at least edit your grammar... your mistakes are very annoying. thank you. Please read her signature. Specifically, this bit: Ignore the bad spelling, I am doing my best sweatdrop Then, please learn the definition of grammar. Her grammar was perfect. Her spelling wasn't.Your spelling was perfect. Your grammar wasn't. The remedy? Please capitalise at the beginning of sentences. Thank you. EDIT: you have a spelling error in your signature. You want "sense", not "sence". Oh, the irony..... xd Especially in this thead....
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:19 am
Reesane SilverDratini Hellfinger before I discuss anything, please at least edit your grammar... your mistakes are very annoying. thank you. Please read her signature. Specifically, this bit: Ignore the bad spelling, I am doing my best sweatdrop Then, please learn the definition of grammar. Her grammar was perfect. Her spelling wasn't.Your spelling was perfect. Your grammar wasn't. The remedy? Please capitalise at the beginning of sentences. Thank you. EDIT: you have a spelling error in your signature. You want "sense", not "sence". Oh, the irony..... xd Especially in this thead.... I know. I was wondering whether anyone would notice without me specifically pointing it out. I thought you probably would. If you ignore thread titles, signatures and are a hypocrite, I prefer public humiliation to gentle pm reminders. Incidentally, part of the reason ED is going to hell in a handbasket is because of people ignoring serious discussions in favour of criticising the OP's spelling. English is a difficult language. There is little logic to it and we have a huge number of illogical, unpatterned verbs. Although, I notice each and every spelling mistake someone has, someone occasionally spelling words phonetically (when they're not) is not that bad. I can read it. Once upon a time, there were no set spellings and a letter by the same person could contain multiple spelling of the same word. I much prefer life with set spellings but bad grammar is much more of a crime in my eyes. Actual grammar developed in order to make things easier to read. For instance, full stops, capitalisation, paragraphs, commas.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:21 am
SilverDratini Reesane SilverDratini Hellfinger before I discuss anything, please at least edit your grammar... your mistakes are very annoying. thank you. Please read her signature. Specifically, this bit: Ignore the bad spelling, I am doing my best sweatdrop Then, please learn the definition of grammar. Her grammar was perfect. Her spelling wasn't.Your spelling was perfect. Your grammar wasn't. The remedy? Please capitalise at the beginning of sentences. Thank you. EDIT: you have a spelling error in your signature. You want "sense", not "sence". Oh, the irony..... xd Especially in this thead.... I know. I was wondering whether anyone would notice without me specifically pointing it out. I thought you probably would. If you ignore thread titles, signatures and are a hypocrite, I prefer public humiliation to gentle pm reminders. Incidentally, part of the reason ED is going to hell in a handbasket is because of people ignoring serious discussions in favour of criticising the OP's spelling. English is a difficult language. There is little logic to it and we have a huge number of illogical, unpatterned verbs. Although, I notice each and every spelling mistake someone has, someone occasionally spelling words phonetically (when they're not) is not that bad. I can read it. Once upon a time, there were no set spellings and a letter by the same person could contain multiple spelling of the same word. I much prefer life with set spellings but bad grammar is much more of a crime in my eyes. Actual grammar developed in order to make things easier to read. For instance, full stops, capitalisation, paragraphs, commas.
I like the way you think. It's kind of easy for me to ignore spelling mistakes, but bad grammar makes you look n00bish. (I think you're on the second EDC banner I made...)
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:28 pm
If the post is just completely illegible, chances are that it does not conform to ED standards anyway (and unless that sticky changed, it mentions posting clearly and legibly), and can be reported.
If there are a few typos, no biggie. Missed caps but everything else is fine, no biggie.
I find it hard to read posts that are really sloppily done (between me being legally blind, english being my second language and me being dyslexic, I'm sure people can imagine the hassle...), so I usually skip over them. People who say they're trying in their sig may get a bit more consideration, particularly if they either go back and fix their posts, or improve over time.
I'm not a grammar nazi by any means, but I'm also not going to bother if it's three lines of 'u' and misspellings galore. If people want me to put in the effort of reading what they write, they should put in the effort of writing well.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:36 am
I screen-capped my most favourite one. As Reverend Smooth said: A typo, here and there, is fine. An error or two with capitalization is forgivable. However, I completely skip posts that are either done in all caps, or have so many errors that I literally cannot even begin to figure out what the Hell the poster's trying to say. But the screen-cap above...that's just damned unforgivable.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:10 am
Lunar Strawberry
I like the way you think. It's kind of easy for me to ignore spelling mistakes, but bad grammar makes you look n00bish. (I think you're on the second EDC banner I made...)Wheee! Cool! Thank you. BlueRoseTorn, what's the problem with that post you linked to? I can't see it. Either I'm being really ignorant, or it's been corrected. I spotted a missing full stop and that's all.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:05 am
SilverDratini Lunar Strawberry
I like the way you think. It's kind of easy for me to ignore spelling mistakes, but bad grammar makes you look n00bish. (I think you're on the second EDC banner I made...)BlueRoseTorn, what's the problem with that post you linked to? I can't see it. Either I'm being really ignorant, or it's been corrected. I spotted a missing full stop and that's all. FLO is discussing the Bible, and mentioned the word "Canon" which are the books in the Bible proper--i.e. not the Apocrypha (sp?) or others that are not included in the Book, for whatever reason. The Yuki person then stated that he/she hasn't even read the Canon, "because the books are not inspired by God." As the Canon is the Bible itself...yeah. confused
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:22 am
BlueRoseTorn SilverDratini Lunar Strawberry
I like the way you think. It's kind of easy for me to ignore spelling mistakes, but bad grammar makes you look n00bish. (I think you're on the second EDC banner I made...)BlueRoseTorn, what's the problem with that post you linked to? I can't see it. Either I'm being really ignorant, or it's been corrected. I spotted a missing full stop and that's all. FLO is discussing the Bible, and mentioned the word "Canon" which are the books in the Bible proper--i.e. not the Apocrypha (sp?) or others that are not included in the Book, for whatever reason. The Yuki person then stated that he/she hasn't even read the Canon, "because the books are not inspired by God." As the Canon is the Bible itself...yeah. confused Ah, I understand now. I see why it's a prizewinner.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:03 am
What exactly is a 'proper' definition? Most words have multiple definitions that are used in different contexts. What needs to be done is not have a sticky of 'proper' definitions but for the intial poster to define their usage of terminology critical to the discussion. Much of the argumentation in a debate can boil down to semantical arguments so to avoid that it is important to set up a sort of operational definition.
For instace, if we define "faith" as "irrational, blind conformity to an idea" you'll get much different conclusions to the questions and topics relating to faith than if you define "faith" as "trusting that an idea is true" or "allegieance and duty to a cause."
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:02 pm
SilverDratini BlueRoseTorn SilverDratini Lunar Strawberry
I like the way you think. It's kind of easy for me to ignore spelling mistakes, but bad grammar makes you look n00bish. (I think you're on the second EDC banner I made...)BlueRoseTorn, what's the problem with that post you linked to? I can't see it. Either I'm being really ignorant, or it's been corrected. I spotted a missing full stop and that's all. FLO is discussing the Bible, and mentioned the word "Canon" which are the books in the Bible proper--i.e. not the Apocrypha (sp?) or others that are not included in the Book, for whatever reason. The Yuki person then stated that he/she hasn't even read the Canon, "because the books are not inspired by God." As the Canon is the Bible itself...yeah. confused Ah, I understand now. I see why it's a prizewinner. I thought she was saying she had never read a cannon (which was just as entertaining). .... That is why I hate syonims(sp?).
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:28 pm
Starlock What exactly is a 'proper' definition? Most words have multiple definitions that are used in different contexts. What needs to be done is not have a sticky of 'proper' definitions but for the intial poster to define their usage of terminology critical to the discussion. Much of the argumentation in a debate can boil down to semantical arguments so to avoid that it is important to set up a sort of operational definition. For instace, if we define "faith" as "irrational, blind conformity to an idea" you'll get much different conclusions to the questions and topics relating to faith than if you define "faith" as "trusting that an idea is true" or "allegieance and duty to a cause." I think she may be talking more about the words with one, clear meaning (i.e. cannon), not the words with multiple meanings (i.e. faith). And, it should be noted, there are different spellings of words that sound the same, which give the words a different meaning (example: there, their, they're) and cannot be interchanged in any way to mean the same things.
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