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Zabuza Demon of Mist Crew
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 Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:13 am
This is something my stepdad was telling me about, that happened at his work.
A set of parents, mother and father, were planning on giving birth to their first child at the hospital here on Eglin AFB. But, they were refusing things that would help the baby survive, like a tube for feeding, or placing it in an artifical lung, and some basic newborn baby care. Which a doctor is supposed to give.
Now, this went to the Ethics Committee, to see what they (the doctors) should do. Should they ignore what the parents want, and risk a lawsuit, but follow their oath to do whatever they can to save lives? Or should they follow what the parents want, and give the baby less of a chance to survive?
What do you all think on this?
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:20 am
No question. Doctors spend all that time in school, learning to save lives. And they are expected to comply with not even giving the baby basic medical care? They would start that, just by habit alone, and then continue if the baby needs it, desperately.
I say ignore the parents, at least to the extent of basic care. The other things I can see them not wanting, but at least let the kid get basic medical care.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:27 am
Things like that annoy me a lot. Doctors have degrees, random people off the street do not. The doctor knows what they're doing.
Yes, the baby is the parent's, but when you go to a doctor, the responsibility of that child's well being is shared with the doctor too.
I think it should be considered neglectful if a parent refuses treatment for their child.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:43 am
Nucleotide Things like that annoy me a lot. Doctors have degrees, random people off the street do not. The doctor knows what they're doing. Yes, the baby is the parent's, but when you go to a doctor, the responsibility of that child's well being is shared with the doctor too. I think it should be considered neglectful if a parent refuses treatment for their child. About it being neglectful, I agree. It's almost like child abuse, which is illegal. They are not giving their children the inalienable rights. If they don't want the doctor to help the newborn baby breathe, it's like suffocating. If the baby can't breathe on his/her own, let the doctors help. In other words, be ethical. Doctors shouldn't have to live with this in their conscience when they came into the profession to save lives.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:12 am
elena!onthescene Nucleotide Things like that annoy me a lot. Doctors have degrees, random people off the street do not. The doctor knows what they're doing. Yes, the baby is the parent's, but when you go to a doctor, the responsibility of that child's well being is shared with the doctor too. I think it should be considered neglectful if a parent refuses treatment for their child. About it being neglectful, I agree. It's almost like child abuse, which is illegal. They are not giving their children the inalienable rights. If they don't want the doctor to help the newborn baby breathe, it's like suffocating. If the baby can't breathe on his/her own, let the doctors help. In other words, be ethical. Doctors shouldn't have to live with this in their conscience when they came into the profession to save lives. Yeah, exactly. Who wouldn't want what's best for their child? I know "What's best" could be argued, but still confused
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:55 am
They're paying the doctor to deliver the baby, which implies that he delivers the baby so that it will live. It makes no sense to remove something that will keep the baby alive. It's almost as if they're saying that they don't want the baby. If that's the case, then when it's born, they should put the baby up for adoption, not try and kill it.
I agree that it is neglectful to refuse rights for the baby. When parents are neglectful and fail to provide propor living requirements (such as food, clothes, ect), or do other inappropriate things such as beating, the government will send in a social worker to remove the children from the parent's care since they are unable to give their child(ren) what it needs. The same would be true in this case. The doctor should have the right to do what he's paid for - help the child live. If the parents are going to be that neglectful, they don't deserve the right to continue caring for the baby.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:37 pm
I'd tell them to stick the baby back up and to get out of the hospital, wasting time. If they don't want all the equipment and medical care that could pull their baby through, f**k their selfishness and narrow-minded opinions, life is precious. Doctor's do their jobs, they are professionals that opinions should be taken with great respect.
Does it help that I want to be a Doctor? rolleyes
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:53 am
Two words: Hippocratic Oath.
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:41 pm
If they filed a lawsuit, on what terms would they have the right to?
I want to be a doctor as well, if I were in the situation I'd risk it either way. I'd be making enough money to live comfortably with or without legal issues... I could afford to make a decision that would help a child survive. Even if I wasn't making that much money.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:30 am
Hmm, the doctor should stick to the oath. They spent a long time learning how to save lives, so they should be stopped by any John and Sally off the street who think they know what to do this a child. The things which the doctor is offering is basic care- it's close to child abuse to refuse what the baby needs.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:42 pm
Six words, two sentences:
Screw the parents. Save the child.
Enough said. evil
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:23 pm
Well, it sounds to me that the mother shouldn't have been smoking cigarettes in the first place.
Which leads me to believe that the child should be taken out of such neglectful care, regardless.
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