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 Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:58 pm
Tough Question, Explain your answer...
Do you prefer playing classical or jazz/contemporary works.
I really can't decide, the fire of Debussy, the fire of jazz, or the just plain kick-butt piano parts of David Maslanka.
Classical works just lack the freedom and, in all honesty, some FUN qualities that I associate with jazz.
But jazz can be (not always mind you) much less... intricate and developed than classical.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:18 pm
Wet Lettuce Tough Question, Explain your answer... Do you prefer playing classical or jazz/contemporary works. I really can't decide, the fire of Debussy, the fire of jazz, or the just plain kick-butt piano parts of David Maslanka. Classical works just lack the freedom and, in all honesty, some FUN qualities that I associate with jazz. But jazz can be (not always mind you) much less... intricate and developed than classical. I disagree, I think that Classical has plenty of freedom, once you know your peice you can tweak it and play with it, add things (cres., decres., extra notes, dynamics, ect.) Once you know the rules you can break them with any peice. Thats what makes them art, not just notes on a page but living, breathing, pulsing life. Music. I find that is the challenge in classical music and the challenge in making it my own/making it "live" that is fun. Although I may be kind of biased because I prefere classical to most jazz and therefore I havent played a whole lot of jazz so far.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:12 pm
Quote: I disagree, I think that Classical has plenty of freedom, once you know your peice you can tweak it and play with it, add things (cres., decres., extra notes, dynamics, ect.) Once you know the rules you can break them with any peice. Thats what makes them art, not just notes on a page but living, breathing, pulsing life. Music. I find that is the challenge in classical music and the challenge in making it my own/making it "live" that is fun. Although I may be kind of biased because I prefere classical to most jazz and therefore I havent played a whole lot of jazz so far. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of freedom in classical piano, but you say yourself you are "tweaking" pieces. The freedom I talk about for jazz, especially improv, is the ability to make the music your own by "Creating" your own riffs, etc, that speak directly to you, whether you pulled it from someone else or thought of it yourself. It has less to do with tweaking to make it your own than spawning it out of your own soul. In short... for me, Jazz piano freedom is broader. You tweak the piano, you tweak the SOUND, not just the notes on a page. (especially when there are no notes on a page but instead chord progressions Whenever I play, be it for a gig, at a friend's , or in some random place that happened to have a piano, whether it be backup for band or solo, I get less gratification (self and external) with classical works. People don't break into a smile to Rachmaninoff, but they do when you hit them with breathing, pulsing jazz. ---- Apologies about any comma abuse. I have a bad,habit,of,misusing,them.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:08 am
Wrong forum, so I will just move it.
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Le Aristocrat Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:16 am
For me it is Classical. It convey's so much more emotion than Jazz or Modernisitc piano music.
I think that Classical music has a lot of freedom. I am doing a set of improvisations of some Chopin Nocturnes, and the possibilities are endless.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:50 am
I put I don't care for either, but thats becuase theres not a 'both' choice
I have found Beethoven's 32nd sonata to have a jazzy feeling in the 2nd mvnt. Which I believe to be the "cool" part in the song.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:26 am
donnythephoenix For me it is Classical. It convey's so much more emotion than Jazz or Modernisitc piano music. I think that Classical music has a lot of freedom. I am doing a set of improvisations of some Chopin Nocturnes, and the possibilities are endless. Indeed, I too think that classical (well Romantic or non-contemporary) converys more emotion then jazz. I think that it can be manipulated more and can be emphasised to give off different feelings where as you don't have that sort of freedom in jazz.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:20 pm
Wet Lettuce Quote: I disagree, I think that Classical has plenty of freedom, once you know your peice you can tweak it and play with it, add things (cres., decres., extra notes, dynamics, ect.) Once you know the rules you can break them with any peice. Thats what makes them art, not just notes on a page but living, breathing, pulsing life. Music. I find that is the challenge in classical music and the challenge in making it my own/making it "live" that is fun. Although I may be kind of biased because I prefere classical to most jazz and therefore I havent played a whole lot of jazz so far. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of freedom in classical piano, but you say yourself you are "tweaking" pieces. The freedom I talk about for jazz, especially improv, is the ability to make the music your own by "Creating" your own riffs, etc, that speak directly to you, whether you pulled it from someone else or thought of it yourself. It has less to do with tweaking to make it your own than spawning it out of your own soul. In short... for me, Jazz piano freedom is broader. You tweak the piano, you tweak the SOUND, not just the notes on a page. (especially when there are no notes on a page but instead chord progressions Whenever I play, be it for a gig, at a friend's , or in some random place that happened to have a piano, whether it be backup for band or solo, I get less gratification (self and external) with classical works. People don't break into a smile to Rachmaninoff, but they do when you hit them with breathing, pulsing jazz. ---- Apologies about any comma abuse. I have a bad,habit,of,misusing,them. Its, ok, I, overuse, commas, frequently, also. biggrin Have you ever composed a classical piece? Even a simple one? It is the most amazing feeling when you have got it just right and you know it. I guess it all comes down to you and your connection to the music. I dont play for the people, I play for the music and I play for myself. Jazz pulsates and moves, but I dont get the same feeling playing it. I am not the kind of person who shows emotion freely. Call me cold, but most of the people I know have never seen me cry or come close to crying, but when I cant sleep and I get up to play, I will begin playing and I get so caught up in the music I cant tell you how long I've been playing or what has been going on in the background, and sometimes I will start laughing or crying while I'm playing. I dont think I could ever recreate that with Jazz, but you might. Another thing that I enjoy, that I feel gives me a lot of freedom, is accompaniments. I frequently accompany my peers/friends or learn my own accompaniment because I study Vocal Music. I always feel like I can do a lot to them without over-stepping my bounds.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:03 pm
I prefer classical. Its much more relaxing 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:42 pm
moon_child113 Its, ok, I, overuse, commas, frequently, also. biggrin Have you ever composed a classical piece? Even a simple one? It is the most amazing feeling when you have got it just right and you know it. I guess it all comes down to you and your connection to the music. I dont play for the people, I play for the music and I play for myself. Jazz pulsates and moves, but I dont get the same feeling playing it. I am not the kind of person who shows emotion freely. Call me cold, but most of the people I know have never seen me cry or come close to crying, but when I cant sleep and I get up to play, I will begin playing and I get so caught up in the music I cant tell you how long I've been playing or what has been going on in the background, and sometimes I will start laughing or crying while I'm playing. I dont think I could ever recreate that with Jazz, but you might. Another thing that I enjoy, that I feel gives me a lot of freedom, is accompaniments. I frequently accompany my peers/friends or learn my own accompaniment because I study Vocal Music. I always feel like I can do a lot to them without over-stepping my bounds. No I haven't composed a classical piece, although one or two jazz (but not very good ones, i must say. I leave composition up to my improv). I definitely understand what you mean about NOT playing for the people. As much as I do, I always play for myself, but enjoy being the center of attention. (or how you can fade into the back if you want) I play piano late into the night If i cannot sleep all the time as well. the difference is usually I am just twiddling my fingers around some jazz riffs. (there have, of course, been exceptions, trying to wake up my soul with debussy,etc). The ability to express emotion, even if less deep, seems more natural for me with jazz. Regarding Accompaniments, amen! I've accompanied jazz band's before. Instances like those you get to see just how far you can truly go before "overstepping your bounds" Its playing with emotional fire! --- Plus, its always fun to sit down to keyboard/piano at like 3 a.m. and start up Kitten on the Keys by zez confrey or Satin doll to wake up anyone within ear shot! Waking up to such easily comprehended, ecstatic energy! There are classical peices that accomplish the same, but again, it seems to be deeper emotionally, which is not always what I want, nor always what "people" want. Thanks much by the way for actually posting THOUGHTS guys/gals. this is one of the times I've been able to Actually discuss this subject without someone deciding to run off or change subjects. *edit* ... you are cold!! (just kidding.)
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:35 am
add to my first post - both!!
lol, last piano lesson, my teacher was listenting to some jazz music and lol she was dancing!! xp she's on her 50's.. hehe^^ cute smile
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:39 am
I find classical beautiful, relaxing, strict, and fun to play. I don't really like jazz or the loose feeling you get counting jazz style. Several classical pieces have a free moving feeling which can sort of immitate jazz. But I prefer classical much more.
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:36 pm
I find the dissonance and sincopation (not sure of the spelling) of contemporary very pretty and fun to play with... ^__^
and jazz i consider a different catagory... because of the different touches required to perform it... but it conveys as much as any other style of music...
many classical with the standard cords are very relaxing... but the problem is often people judge classical music on your intrepertion of what the composer wants not what the artist wants... which is the down side of this...
i really don't have a preference as long as they give a kind of "full-filling" feeling after the performance... (not sure if that made sense XD)
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:58 pm
I chose classical, I find it more "deep", with more emotion than jazz ...
It's much more relaxing and soft.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:31 pm
that's a pretty hard desicion for me,
but classical.
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