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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:35 pm


i don't quite get it...can anyone explain what exactly happened at the end? maybe the last two episodes? [spoilers]weren't they looking for the person who created those bugs? =S why was Alucard fighting the other dude? and after the dude died, why did Alucard offer Intergral his blood again?[/spoilers]
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:43 pm


It's kinda wacky and broken a bit 'cause they never got a second season and didn't know what Hirano was doing. But it's kinda like in the manga: a group is making Freak chips. Their main agent, though, is Incognito.

In the last few eps, Hellsing is framed for treason and conned into a trap at the Tower. Most of their guys get killed there by Incog's...wolf-looking former SAS members. Seras and Alucard are there too. Incog and Alucard fight, Alucard gets hit with his own bullents. Then, through some vague events, Incog captures Integra. And he plans to summon Set, an ancient demon. Integra unlocks Alucard's seals and sort of resurrects him. He defeats Incog after a big fight and after Incog summons Set. But this doesn't free Hellsing. Integra gets sent to the Tower on treason charges, but there's some hints that she'll be freed. In the end, we find out hardly anything about Incog (he's from Africa and uses dark magic) and same goes for the group making Freak chips.

That's brief, but hope it helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:38 am


The whole ending was sloppy, they fight a retarded looking villain, and Integral, who is the coolest of all anime protagonists gets thrown in prision with poor Alucard being forced to leave us on a WTF moment

I was mad when there was no resolve AT ALL =/
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:20 pm


No kidding, it leaves us hanging.

But to answer:
Yes, they were looking for the maker of the 'bugs', aka the 'freak chips.'

Alucard was fighting 'the other dude' name - Incognito - because he was the main operative for the enemy at the time.

Why does Alu offer Integra his blood again?
Because he thinks she's worthy of such a gift.

And to explain all this better....
Remember, the OA is only based on the first three of the manga. That's all they had to go off of. So they had to make up some of their own explanations and story. Which means that we never get to Millennium, although all of fandom knows that's who's behind it now. Which ALSO means that they had to make up their own explanations and villan. Which gave rise to Incognito. The dumbest villian ever. I digress, though. Incognito was the 'top agent' supposedly of whoever was/is making the chips. Alucard fought him, Incognito summoned Set to help himself.
Set is an real ancient Egyptian God, the God of Chaos.
However, even when powered by that 'god', Alucard could beat him, after one hellouva fight.
In the end, thanks to Sir Irons treasonous actions of letting the media in where they shouldn't be, Hellsing and specifiacally Sir Integra, were accused of High Treason to the Crown for 1) attacking the Tower when the Queen was there. (That's what it means when her flag is raised) and 2) Attacking SAS men. Which were really ghouls, but that and the existance of vampires cannot exactly be explained to the people. And the anime ends with her locked in the Tower of London, the historically fitting prison for Traitors. Irons is killed after this incident, as it says: "The true traitor was silenced." (Not a direct quote, a paraphrase.)
And Alucard offering his blood to Sir Integra?
One: he loves to tempt her and pick on her. Becuase he's 'a poison' and becuase he likes her.
Two: He thinks she's worthy of such a gift
And that grin of hers?
A knowing smirk, knowing what he's offering, thanking him for the respect, and denial of the dark gift all in one.
"Only a human can kill a monster."

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:34 pm


Could not have summed it up better myself. Thank you Angel.

One thing though: while we may assume, logicaly, that the traitor is Sir Irons, this is never directly stated. There are only three knights named in the entierty of the 13 episodes. Sir Shelby, Sir Irons and Sir Peter.

Based on the manga we know two things bout Sir Shelby. One: he is head of the Navy, not media and thus would have no controll over coverage of the Tower incident. Two: he respects Sir Integra and works willingly with her.

Sir Peter is only named in the credits and we may persume he is invovled with MI5, again, not in any controll of the media.

Sir Irons is the only remaining knight we get the name of directly in the OA. When Sir Integra learns of the betrayal, her thoughts go to two knights; Shelby and Irons.

Based on these things, it is logical to persume that Sir Irons is the traitor in the OA (heck, the man doesn't even acknowledge Sir Integra as a fellow knight in the manga!), but we don't hear it directly.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:43 pm


As Catherine said, there are only 3 knights named.
For an explanation, we need to look to the manga for two of the knights, even though the animators couldn't.

Two jobs were mentioned in the anime: MI-5 (I believe) and Media.
The other isn't given.

Sir Shelby, by the manga, respects Sir Integra and supports her. He might be a bit of a fool and coward, but he knows what is best for his country and will do anything for it. We also know that he is in charge of the Navy. Admiral is his Naval title.

Sir Peter is only mentioned by name in the credits. However, when we look back on who was speaking in the episode, it seems logical to assume that he is in charge of MI-5.

Sir Irons, however, is a bit of a mystery at this time. By the manga, it seems he has some military knowledge and pull. But it has not been said yet exactly what he does as a knight. In the OA, he is the only knight that is mentioned that does not have a direct 'job', which makes the job of 'media control' fall to him.

Which, since the media being where they shouldn't when they shouldn't and showing Hellsing doing their job, but unable to explain, means that Sir Integra was pegged as traitor, means that Sir Irons logically is the traitor.

And, if you watch past the last 'drop of blood' animation, there are written words. Some of them say something to the effect of 'the traitior has been silenced'.

Which would, by our logic, mean Sir Irons.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:00 pm


=o thank you everyone..i'm no longer confused ^^'
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:18 pm


And just a tiny add in, though the flag was up, the queen was not at the Tower. You have to admit that the trap was a fine one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:03 am


Ace of Death
And just a tiny add in, though the flag was up, the queen was not at the Tower. You have to admit that the trap was a fine one.

*dingdingding* We have a winnah! Yupyup, that is correct! I thought I mentioned that in my post, but apparantely I forgot to. My pardon!

Essentially though, that means that while it seems to the public that it was High Treason, as the Queen's flag was raised, then she was there, she was not, her flag was only up to lure the vampire Incognito. She was acutally on her way to the Hellsing house when this fiasco went down. But as mentioned, because of matters, nothing could be admitted nor explained, so Sir Integra took the fall.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:04 am


Mak Mak
=o thank you everyone..i'm no longer confused ^^'

Glad to be of service!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:16 pm


the ending made me angry.....
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:12 pm


UtaNeko
the ending made me angry.....

You're not the only one. It made me hope there was a second season. But I think Sir_Catherine can top most of us... after watching the OA by herself, she left me a five-minute (no, I'm not exaggerating!) message on my answering machine akin to (and I sum up...)
"That can't be it! That couldn't have happened! She's no traitor! Who did this? That's it, I'm mad! There's got to be a second season! Where's the rest of this anime?!? I WANT MORE! God, this is dumb! SHE'S NOT A TRAITOR!!! I can't believe they actually put her in the Tower! For chrissake, no! You can't tell me there's not a second season! There has to be more! There just has to! ARGH!!!!"

Five minutes of such. Very amusing to hear someone's first unbound fangirl rant. 4laugh
And also at the point where the manga had not been released stateside to our best knowledge and our main anime informant kept telling us that that was it, no questions asked. But Catherine and I (especially Catherine) kept up hope, and look where we are today! In your face 'informant'! HAH. twisted

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:56 pm


Angel_Of_Hellfire

*dingdingding* We have a winnah! Yupyup, that is correct! I thought I mentioned that in my post, but apparantely I forgot to. My pardon!

Essentially though, that means that while it seems to the public that it was High Treason, as the Queen's flag was raised, then she was there, she was not, her flag was only up to lure the vampire Incognito. She was acutally on her way to the Hellsing house when this fiasco went down. But as mentioned, because of matters, nothing could be admitted nor explained, so Sir Integra took the fall.

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Yes, good catch. In a sense, it was a double trap: the flag was up to lure Incog, but he turned it around and ambushed the Hellsing soldiers. AND made it appear to the world that Hellsing was attacking the queen at the tower. Sort of backfired for the good guys. Which was an interesting twist.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:23 am


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*dingdingding* We have a winnah! Yupyup, that is correct! I thought I mentioned that in my post, but apparantely I forgot to. My pardon!

Essentially though, that means that while it seems to the public that it was High Treason, as the Queen's flag was raised, then she was there, she was not, her flag was only up to lure the vampire Incognito. She was acutally on her way to the Hellsing house when this fiasco went down. But as mentioned, because of matters, nothing could be admitted nor explained, so Sir Integra took the fall.

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Yes, good catch. In a sense, it was a double trap: the flag was up to lure Incog, but he turned it around and ambushed the Hellsing soldiers. AND made it appear to the world that Hellsing was attacking the queen at the tower. Sort of backfired for the good guys. Which was an interesting twist.


*fangirl seethes below calm, collected exterior*

Bitter irony. Her Majesty was to be at the Hellsing house and had to turn around and not go there because suddenly one of her most trusted knights is being flashed across the news as a traito! The scean where Sir Integra is told the Queen will not be comming and Hellsing must be disasociated from the Crown is one of the most painful in the series.

I still have trouble watching the Tower incident without getting my hackles up.

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