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 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:46 pm
im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away!
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:43 pm
Rebecca lala im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away! ^_^ Speaking of pro-life women... have any of you heard of Feminists for Life? Check out their website ww.feministsforlife.org. I've never been willing to call myself a feminist because of mainstream feminism's emphasis on abortion as a "woman's right", the devaluing of motherhood and traditionally feminine qualities, and the stereotype of men as power-hungry and abusive. This is feminism with feminine graces... a kinder, gentler brand that focuses more on treating women with equality than on turning them into men with breasts. so yay for them!
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:59 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:17 am
Rosa Quietus Rebecca lala im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away! ^_^ Speaking of pro-life women... have any of you heard of Feminists for Life? Check out their website ww.feministsforlife.org. I've never been willing to call myself a feminist because of mainstream feminism's emphasis on abortion as a "woman's right", the devaluing of motherhood and traditionally feminine qualities, and the stereotype of men as power-hungry and abusive. This is feminism with feminine graces... a kinder, gentler brand that focuses more on treating women with equality than on turning them into men with breasts. so yay for them!
::goes to check it out::
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:29 pm
GreenInkling Rosa Quietus Rebecca lala im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away! ^_^ Speaking of pro-life women... have any of you heard of Feminists for Life? Check out their website ww.feministsforlife.org. I've never been willing to call myself a feminist because of mainstream feminism's emphasis on abortion as a "woman's right", the devaluing of motherhood and traditionally feminine qualities, and the stereotype of men as power-hungry and abusive. This is feminism with feminine graces... a kinder, gentler brand that focuses more on treating women with equality than on turning them into men with breasts. so yay for them!
::goes to check it out::
But I do love the site. ^^
And in all honesty, 'radical feminists' (who seem pretty damn proud they can have abortions) creep me out. But I've been brought up to hate the idea of attachment to men.
Not that that ever worked.
And (seeing as I'm ranting by now, anyway) I have to agree with the notion that some feminists advertise becoming 'men' as our only option, yet most feminists strive to access true 'womanhood', and indeed some are disillusioned that this must include abortive rights - what happened to our right to education, or our right to our rights? True feminism walks hand in hand with true democracy, and until I am treated as an equal to my male counterparts, I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the United Kingdom as a 'developed' country.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:27 pm
Nemithena GreenInkling Rosa Quietus Rebecca lala im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away! ^_^ Speaking of pro-life women... have any of you heard of Feminists for Life? Check out their website ww.feministsforlife.org. I've never been willing to call myself a feminist because of mainstream feminism's emphasis on abortion as a "woman's right", the devaluing of motherhood and traditionally feminine qualities, and the stereotype of men as power-hungry and abusive. This is feminism with feminine graces... a kinder, gentler brand that focuses more on treating women with equality than on turning them into men with breasts. so yay for them!
::goes to check it out::
But I do love the site. ^^
And in all honesty, 'radical feminists' (who seem pretty damn proud they can have abortions) creep me out. But I've been brought up to hate the idea of attachment to men.
Not that that ever worked.
And (seeing as I'm ranting by now, anyway) I have to agree with the notion that some feminists advertise becoming 'men' as our only option, yet most feminists strive to access true 'womanhood', and indeed some are disillusioned that this must include abortive rights - what happened to our right to education, or our right to our rights? True feminism walks hand in hand with true democracy, and until I am treated as an equal to my male counterparts, I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the United Kingdom as a 'developed' country.What kind of educational inequalities are there in the UK? (just asking because I'm oblivious to half of US politics, and ALL of foreign.) In the US, women are more likely than men to graduate from college.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:54 pm
Rosa Quietus Nemithena GreenInkling Rosa Quietus Rebecca lala im a pro-life women and im proud of it! i think babys shouldnt b aborted cuzz ur killing them and if ur killing them ur playing God. only God has da power 2 take life away. plus da baby never did anything 2 hurt u dont take its unborn life away! ^_^ Speaking of pro-life women... have any of you heard of Feminists for Life? Check out their website ww.feministsforlife.org. I've never been willing to call myself a feminist because of mainstream feminism's emphasis on abortion as a "woman's right", the devaluing of motherhood and traditionally feminine qualities, and the stereotype of men as power-hungry and abusive. This is feminism with feminine graces... a kinder, gentler brand that focuses more on treating women with equality than on turning them into men with breasts. so yay for them!
::goes to check it out::
But I do love the site. ^^
And in all honesty, 'radical feminists' (who seem pretty damn proud they can have abortions) creep me out. But I've been brought up to hate the idea of attachment to men.
Not that that ever worked.
And (seeing as I'm ranting by now, anyway) I have to agree with the notion that some feminists advertise becoming 'men' as our only option, yet most feminists strive to access true 'womanhood', and indeed some are disillusioned that this must include abortive rights - what happened to our right to education, or our right to our rights? True feminism walks hand in hand with true democracy, and until I am treated as an equal to my male counterparts, I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the United Kingdom as a 'developed' country.What kind of educational inequalities are there in the UK? (just asking because I'm oblivious to half of US politics, and ALL of foreign.) In the US, women are more likely than men to graduate from college. Which amuses me greatly because women are considered "minorities" so they are more likely to be considered for scholarships than men. Affirmative action is swell and all that, but I honestly think that we should be past it as far as women vs. men goes. (Affirmative action in general we should be past, but as of two years ago, statistics seemed to indicate that we're not ready to give it up completely. I don't remember what the specifics of that was though. Affirmative action was a lincoln douglas debate topic 2 years ago, so i researched it, but not a lot.)
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:00 pm
Rosa, I just looked at that site you posted and I do love it so, especially the quote.
"Women who are experiencing unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy."
mrgreen
So true.
I mean, I understand how children can be a burden and how they can make you want to rip out all your hair, but they're still your children. Surely the love and joy they give you overshadows everything else 100 times.
I dunno. Maybe that's just me.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:55 pm
I agree that we shouldn’t play the role of God in any way, but you must also put yourself in the situation of your opposer. I, again, don't think we should play the role of God in destroying life before birth, but I also don't think it's right to force a woman to go through with child birth if she has the option of not to do so. I, personally, don't find it morally right to get pregnant and have an abortion. After all, you knew the consequences of having sex and fooling around. But, I also don't find it morally right to force someone to do something they don't want to do.
So, basically for this topic, I have given it to God. I think those who have abortions need to take it up with God personally, just as anyone who feels questionable about their actions do, such as homosexuality and other things that people feel question faith.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:55 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:27 pm
I'm pro-hugs. I am a firm believer that if people gave more hugs, there would be less abortions. Why you ask? Because hugs are addicting and the more you get, the more you want. (Like cocaine, but in a good way) So, if you have the option to abort or give birth, what are you going to do? You're going to give birth to a child who you can hug anytime you feel like it. Children don't give you wierd looks and ask why you're hugging them. They smile and hug you back. (warning: do not hug children you don't know. they might be ok with it, but their parents will most likely file a lawsuit) This is my brilliant plan. I must go out and work on this some more. *goes on a wild hugging rampage* But, in all seriousness, I do think that the problem isn't abortion. The problem is women feeling like abortion is a valid option or, in some cases, the only option open to them. Every child should be a wanted child, regardless of whether or not it was a planned child. (I have many friends who were not "planned", but they are loved just the same) It's all about love, which is a completely selfless act. I feel that the oposite of acting out of love is acting out of selfishness, which is sometimes what people having abortions do. If we increase the amount of love in the world, I think the amount of abortions would decrease (even if only a bit). There are other things we could do to decrease the number of people who have abortions too. (the site Rosa posted talks about some of those)
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:14 pm
Gree I agree that we shouldn’t play the role of God in any way, but you must also put yourself in the situation of your opposer. I, again, don't think we should play the role of God in destroying life before birth, but I also don't think it's right to force a woman to go through with child birth if she has the option of not to do so. I, personally, don't find it morally right to get pregnant and have an abortion. After all, you knew the consequences of having sex and fooling around. But, I also don't find it morally right to force someone to do something they don't want to do.
So, basically for this topic, I have given it to God. I think those who have abortions need to take it up with God personally, just as anyone who feels questionable about their actions do, such as homosexuality and other things that people feel question faith. My problem with this stance is that, to hold it without hypocracy, you must also support legalized murder. After all, even though it is morally wrong, it should be between them and God, and you shouldn't have to force someone to do something they don't want to. I don't mean to be insulting, but I'll call a rose a rose. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:18 am
I.Am Gree I agree that we shouldn’t play the role of God in any way, but you must also put yourself in the situation of your opposer. I, again, don't think we should play the role of God in destroying life before birth, but I also don't think it's right to force a woman to go through with child birth if she has the option of not to do so. I, personally, don't find it morally right to get pregnant and have an abortion. After all, you knew the consequences of having sex and fooling around. But, I also don't find it morally right to force someone to do something they don't want to do.
So, basically for this topic, I have given it to God. I think those who have abortions need to take it up with God personally, just as anyone who feels questionable about their actions do, such as homosexuality and other things that people feel question faith. My problem with this stance is that, to hold it without hypocracy, you must also support legalized murder. After all, even though it is morally wrong, it should be between them and God, and you shouldn't have to force someone to do something they don't want to. I don't mean to be insulting, but I'll call a rose a rose. sweatdrop
Again as I said, just like homosexuality and some other much debated topics, I feel that that decision is with the person getting an abortion and God. I disagree with abortion, but I don’t find anything useful in fighting bout it when, I personally, haven’t even experienced what it’s like to be pregnant, and therefore, because I haven’t seen both sides, feel that I shouldn’t be in a debate on either side about it. That's all I was trying to say. I'm really sorry if I offended anyone. whee
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:20 am
garra_eyes I'm pro-hugs. I am a firm believer that if people gave more hugs, there would be less abortions. Why you ask? Because hugs are addicting and the more you get, the more you want. (Like cocaine, but in a good way) hey garra, i'm going to a party and apparently everyone is going to go and get strung out on hugs, it's gunna be pretty Cr4Zy. there is going to be some insane hugging!!! don't tell your parents!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:20 am
Gree I.Am Gree I agree that we shouldn’t play the role of God in any way, but you must also put yourself in the situation of your opposer. I, again, don't think we should play the role of God in destroying life before birth, but I also don't think it's right to force a woman to go through with child birth if she has the option of not to do so. I, personally, don't find it morally right to get pregnant and have an abortion. After all, you knew the consequences of having sex and fooling around. But, I also don't find it morally right to force someone to do something they don't want to do.
So, basically for this topic, I have given it to God. I think those who have abortions need to take it up with God personally, just as anyone who feels questionable about their actions do, such as homosexuality and other things that people feel question faith. My problem with this stance is that, to hold it without hypocracy, you must also support legalized murder. After all, even though it is morally wrong, it should be between them and God, and you shouldn't have to force someone to do something they don't want to. I don't mean to be insulting, but I'll call a rose a rose. sweatdrop
Again as I said, just like homosexuality and some other much debated topics, I feel that that decision is with the person getting an abortion and God. I disagree with abortion, but I don’t find anything useful in fighting bout it when, I personally, haven’t even experienced what it’s like to be pregnant, and therefore, because I haven’t seen both sides, feel that I shouldn’t be in a debate on either side about it. That's all I was trying to say. I'm really sorry if I offended anyone. whee
Even if you have not yourself been involved in a murder or seen anyone murdered, you can still say that murder is a serious crime which ought not to be ignored - even if the one who commits murder is affected by emotional or economic circumstances. The same is true for abortion; it doesn't matter whether you're pregnant or ever will be pregnant, you can consider it wrong nonetheless.
This isn't to say that being hard-hearted and scornful of those who have abortions is right, either. It's true that unwanted pregancy can be a very serious problem for women, and they do definitely deserve help and understanding. What they don't deserve - in both the positive and negative senses of the word - is for someone to give them the means and encouragement to commit homicide in order to end that problem.
It is official Catholic teaching that abortion is a grave moral wrong. For example, Pope John Paul II's encyclical letter Evangelium Vitae has this to say:Quote: 58. Among all the crimes which can be committed against life, procured abortion has characteristics making it particularly serious and deplorable. The Second Vatican Council defines abortion, together with infanticide, as an "unspeakable crime". ...The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder and, in particular, when we consider the specific elements involved. The one eliminated is a human being at the very beginning of life. No one more absolutely innocent could be imagined. In no way could this human being ever be considered an aggressor, much less an unjust aggressor! He or she is weak, defenceless, even to the point of lacking that minimal form of defence consisting in the poignant power of a newborn baby's cries and tears. The unborn child is totally entrusted to the protection and care of the woman carrying him or her in the womb. And yet sometimes it is precisely the mother herself who makes the decision and asks for the child to be eliminated, and who then goes about having it done. It is true that the decision to have an abortion is often tragic and painful for the mother, insofar as the decision to rid herself of the fruit of conception is not made for purely selfish reasons or out of convenience, but out of a desire to protect certain important values such as her own health or a decent standard of living for the other members of the family. Sometimes it is feared that the child to be born would live in such conditions that it would be better if the birth did not take place. Nevertheless, these reasons and others like them, however serious and tragic, can never justify the deliberate killing of an innocent human being.
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