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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:59 pm
Do you beleive in soulmates?
I used to but now that belief is wavering, perhaps its the single-girl blues as my mom calls them and the fact that Valentines day just left.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:02 pm
I do belive in soul mates, but I don't belive in it as most do. I don't belive that soulmates have anything to do with more than friendly love. The reason many soul mates do end up in relationships is easy though. Since they are so close to each other, it's only natural that love blooms. It's however not a necessity. I, for example, have met my soul mate. While it indeed for a while looked like we were going to end up as a couple, we didn't. Which actually was for the best. Regardless, we still have that bond. I also don't see soul mates as something predestined or someone from an earlier life, since I don't belive in reincarnation.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:41 am
I believe in the general concept of soulkin, or people, non-people, and objects that resonate with you to a degree greater than what is ordinary (and bear in mind this resonance could be positive, as in love, or more negative, as in revulsion). It's also worth nothing though that I don't see 'souls' how most probably do.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:12 pm
Just out of curiosity Star, how do you view souls?
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:32 pm
I didn't used to. In fact, I would have laughed out loud if you had mentioned the concept to me. But... meeting a certain someone has changed my mind. I still don't believe that everyone has a 'special someone;' but I do believe that it's possible you can meet someone whom you're instantly attracted to, and likewise, and that the relationship can be different than anything you have every had or - possibly - will have. I haven't went as far as to wonder why yet - I'm still getting used to it - but... perhaps, if we do reincarnate, people end up being each other's soul mate because - as Duncan said - we knew that person in a previous life. Perhaps - as Starlock said - that person 'resonates' with us, and that's what causes the attraction. *shrugs* I dunno, that's just my two cents. lol
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:36 am
I don't know.
I'll get back to you when I've decided what my take on "souls" is.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:50 pm
Duncan_the_Soulknight Just out of curiosity Star, how do you view souls? Crap, I was hoping nobody'd call me on that. xd My views on the issue are somewhat complicated and I've never actually disclosed the entirety of it anywhere. Because I'm lazy, I'll C&P something else I wrote that discusses SOME of the basics. Quote: As for detailing the theories on souls I have... (sighs) it IS complicated, but using a system of metaphors I'll try to make it brief yet understandable. Picture a soul like a line (now, it isn't really a line, but let's just follow the metaphor from the begining first). It's a line without a begining or end, or, if you prefer, it is a line which forms a circle. But to keep it simpler, just worry about the infinte line, not the circle. Every little point on this soul line is a moment in time. And at every little point on this line, everything that occured within the existence of this soul is recorded. In a sense, every point on the line is like an expandable flippy-triangle that contains immense amounts of data. So then, this "line" isn't really a line, but a single line with an infinate number of lines coming off it. To make it MORE complicated, within each of the lines that represent every moment of time, are MORE expandable flippy-triangles that contain more specific information about that moment in time. Lines coming off lines coming off lines... etc. And this goes on and on to infinity. That's the basic model. The key is, that this web of data which is the soul has data overlaps with OTHER soul lines. In short, two soul lines can have similar threads of data describing the same things and sittuations. These overlaping data threads are not DUPLICATES, but the SAME thread line. In other words, a particular set of data can only exist once, so those souls that share this data in essence share a connection to each other. These are places where the two souls interacted in some way, either on a physical plane or elsewhere. They are also the places where soulbonds are made. The more data overlaps there are, the greater the two souls are intertwined and the stronger the soulbond is. The third part to this would emphasize that souls really are not individual, discreet entities to begin with. This can be infered from what I wrote, but it isn't directly stated. Most people tend to believe souls (and just about everything in reality) is discreet, individuated. That's true to a degree, but it depends on what scale you're looking at things from. At very large or small scales, individualized identities fall appart. That's... emough for now.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:28 pm
eek Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!! You, Starlock, have just made my day! Now why couldn't I have read this earlier, when I was wondering just what the heck a soul was...? Oh my gosh... *passes out* That's a really cool theory. Did you come up with it, or did you hear it somewhere else? Does this theory have a name? I'm -extremely- curious!
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:16 am
I firmly believe in soul mates in the traditiaonl sense. To me, extreme manogamy makes perfect sense. (I say extreme in that sometimes, even dating isn't really all that needed). But my reasons for this are kinda ..odd. xd
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:10 am
Hmm... That is an interesting view of the soul. I personally disagree though. Even if two people experience the same thing, there is always variation in how they sxperience it, which would lead to the threads beeing different anyway. Of course I'm not saying that you are wrong, you might be right anyway. This is just what I think.
Considering I don't belive in reincarnation, my view of the soul is a bit different. I see it as a seed. It is what is needed to start the new life, but at some point, it will become obsolete. I belive that the will and the body build some kind of bond instead. While the soul is still there, is has no function anymore.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:44 pm
Panther Windsong eek Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!! You, Starlock, have just made my day! Now why couldn't I have read this earlier, when I was wondering just what the heck a soul was...? Oh my gosh... *passes out* That's a really cool theory. Did you come up with it, or did you hear it somewhere else? Does this theory have a name? I'm -extremely- curious! You know, it's odd how often I seem to get this reaction when I actually post this out. (smacks hand to forehead) Not sure if that's a good or bad thing at this point. xd I'll take it as a compliment, I guess. wink Anyway, I can't say precisely where it came from, save I didn't come up with it based on any specific source. I wouldn't say that means it is entirely original, though; even our most original ideas are inspired on some level by something else we encountered in our experience. It gets revised continuously as I discover new ways of seeing the world. I don't have a specific name for it, though I have one in mind I might settle on when I bother writing the whole thing out. Using the line metaphor has its drawbacks and it is a bit oversimplified, but... meh. Duncan_the_Soulknight Hmm... That is an interesting view of the soul. I personally disagree though. Even if two people experience the same thing, there is always variation in how they sxperience it, which would lead to the threads beeing different anyway. Of course I'm not saying that you are wrong, you might be right anyway. This is just what I think. No, actually that is an intriguing consideration that probably isn't incompatible with the model. Perhaps it can be looked at this way: the event, in the objective sense, is singular and happens only once, so there's still only one 'point' signifying that event. The salience of any given entity towards an event is limited though, so the entirety of that event wouldn't be contained within their specific line. In other words, since we're only aware or cognizant of certain aspects of what we experience; we focus on some things more than others. If we're in a room but not paying attention to the color of the walls, it might only be partially registered on our own line, or even not at all. Perhaps subconscious memories are aspects of an even that are weakly registered? Hey, thanks a lot for the new consideration! I'll have to remember this one. whee
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:32 pm
I'm not entirely sure I believe in soul mates or not; I believe that there are certain people we're destined to encounter, and that some are going to resonate with us more than others. I suppose my current situation could be viewed as having found my soul mate... He and I have been friends for a very long time, and we were drawn to each other from the beginning; I, in fact, used to say it was as if the gods had taken everything I had ever said I wanted in a man and then dropped in in front of me when I was too stubborn to end a dead end relationship. But we stayed friends for more than three years, while I became single and he went from one girlfriend to another.
In September, that changed; we were growing closer even if he did have a new girlfriend. We started asking what would be the harm if we fooled around, we had so much in common, but we said we wouldn't. By the end of October, we were reading eachother's minds. November was nothing but sexual tension, and he ended up at my bedside at the end of the month when I was hospitalised for irregular heart palpitations; showed up at 2:15 in the morning shaking from head to toe with a little plush tiger he'd had since he was small...
Early December, I noticed he was starting to develop a drinking problem, and began picking up the pieces of his crumbling relationship. We also crossed a line we said we weren't going to and started sleeping together. It progressed from there, and by the end of January, very early February, we had confessed our love for each other. He's navigating the end of his former relationship while trying to maintain a friendship, having finally seen the abuse she was subjecting him to and seeing in me what he's been looking for. I don't know if this is going to be one of those forever things, but something in each of us calls to the other in a way neither of us has ever experienced before. Even long distance, we can feel what the other is feeling, know what they're thinking. We just happen to end up at the same places at the saem time on a very large campus by coincidence quite often. I'm just kind of taking things as they are without addressing the soul mate question and taking things for what they are: something that feels right after 3.5 years of waiting for a chance.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:49 am
The Bookwyrm,
I'm glad you two've gotten together! heart Aya, just going with it for now would be good... at least until you've determined that it's going to last a while. (Uh, no offense meant...)
Starlock,
xd Maybe you get that reaction a lot because it's really neat and no one's heard it before...?
H'mm a combination of stuff, huh? That's good though, it means you're creative. Yeah, it might not be completely original, but it's definately not overused!
I have a different analogy you could use that -might- work better, but I'm not exactly sure how to describe it. There are these metal spheres that have bars that connect to each other, and at every connecting point there are plastic/metal balls. The metal sphere is actually collapsable on itself, if that helps any. I'm... not really sure what they're called. But my point is, perhaps the metal balls that connect the bars to one another could be the experience, and the bars themselves are the differing viewpoints on the same experience. I'm sure there are little spheres inside of the big sphere, and these could be the soul of an individual, even though it still connects with others through the metal/plastic balls. Did that even make any sense? LoL.
I have a question: Say, for example, my mom had died because she had cancer. Now, events could only happen once, so is this event the same event as someone else's mom dying for the same reason? What if the two had died at different times? Does that matter?
This is just one question, I'm sure I could think of more (I'm seriously thinking about taking and building on this in my own mind and saying that I 'stole' the belief from you, xd , because it 'resonates' with me so much LoL), but that's all for now.
Windsong
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:05 pm
I believe there is such a thing as soulmates!
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