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 Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:44 pm
Out of curiosity, what would make the perfect world, the perfect government, and most importantly the perfect society? (A Utopia.)
And how would it be ran, maintained, and how will you avoid a *dystopia?
I'm curious to see what you guys come up with. xd
*dystopia-A dystopia (alternatively, cacotopia[1], kakotopia or anti-utopia) is a fictional society that is the antithesis of utopia. It is usually characterized by an oppressive social control, such as an authoritarian or totalitarian government.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:13 pm
I think that perfection is a lie and that there is no such thing, If perfection was real a country would not need a government, neither a president etc. Things would run smoothly by itself.
A perfection cannot be obtained by "humans", Because of our emotions such as greed, hate, Jealousy etc. this dream is nothing more as it is a "dream".
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Samurai_Warrior_FoX Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:21 pm
To make a perfect society,world and government is impossible. Its just an illusion. Merely a dream that can not be accomplished.
But you can get close to it.
And to do so, I would think is to have a great leader, one who isn't selfish and ego driven. One who is after the greatness of the world per say..
well thats what think..it kinda sucks..
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:29 pm
green_sparkles44 To make a perfect society,world and government is impossible. Its just an illusion. Merely a dream that can not be accomplished.
But you can get close to it.
And to do so, I would think is to have a great leader, one who isn't selfish and ego driven. One who is after the greatness of the world per say..
well thats what think..it kinda sucks.. A leader of this caliber, is few and far between but I'm not saying that it has never happened. Look at the great men and women of the past, who lead individuals,people,homes,villages,towns,cities,nations,countries to uprise and lead them into victory and prosperity. At time like this, the image of such a leadership is needed very much. The so called "perfect government" is something that may never exist right now but maybe a better system of order ill be found, governed by machines that will do everything precise and as needed.
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Samurai_Warrior_FoX Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:00 pm
But there's a challenge in my question. Basically imagine you are a god (Or THE god) and you had a chance to create people in your image, and you got to control the way they lived, but there would be a point where you and your creations had to part ways, how would you have your creations live so that they are perfectly content.
Would you have leaders, a (Real) communism (The idea of no class, everyone sharing and everyone being equal),or would there be no order at all?
green_sparkles44 Wrote:
"To make a perfect society,world and government is impossible. Its just an illusion. Merely a dream that can not be accomplished.
But you can get close to it.
And to do so, I would think is to have a great leader, one who isn't selfish and ego driven. One who is after the greatness of the world per say..
well thats what think..it kinda sucks.. "
You say that it's a dream, an illusion. Sibce this is a fiction-based question, couldn't you just put people in an alternate reality where the dream was a reality?
As with the leader that might work, but how would you make sure that a selfish person doesn't kill the selfless leader?
(And no, that didn't suck.)
Samurai_Warrior_FoX wrote:
"At time like this, the image of such a leadership is needed very much. The so called "perfect government" is something that may never exist right now but maybe a better system of order ill be found, governed by machines that will do everything precise and as needed."
For you I have to ask this: Could you make it happen in a time before or after this? If so, how?
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:27 am
if there ever were such a perfect country where everyone could be happy
1 make sure no one was poor
2 make sure everyone was equal
3 make everyone have the same thing
but in my head a perfect world is where everyone can get along for the most part and not fight really. let everyone just be happy and people that need help should get help. and not ignore the homeles on the street or ignore the people that cant speak english in other words we should all just get along.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:04 pm
grandkinglink if there ever were such a perfect country where everyone could be happy 1 make sure no one was poor 2 make sure everyone was equal 3 make everyone have the same thing but in my head a perfect world is where everyone can get along for the most part and not fight really. let everyone just be happy and people that need help should get help. and not ignore the homeles on the street or ignore the people that cant speak english in other words we should all just get along. It sounds like a communism using the original ideas, but how would you make it so everyone got along? And what would you do to the people who were fighting?
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:41 pm
well see thats the thing there is no way to make people not fight unless you brainwash peace in their heads there is no really perfect world.
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Samurai_Warrior_FoX Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:50 pm
grandkinglink well see thats the thing there is no way to make people not fight unless you brainwash peace in their heads there is no really perfect world. This is very true, as long as there is diversity and difference there will always be conflict if the opposing minds cannot hold it in.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:47 pm
Samurai_Warrior_FoX grandkinglink well see thats the thing there is no way to make people not fight unless you brainwash peace in their heads there is no really perfect world. This is very true, as long as there is diversity and difference there will always be conflict if the opposing minds cannot hold it in. ' So conformity, brainwashing, and the possiblity of cloning is a valid solution?
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Samurai_Warrior_FoX Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:19 pm
Aeoess Samurai_Warrior_FoX grandkinglink well see thats the thing there is no way to make people not fight unless you brainwash peace in their heads there is no really perfect world. This is very true, as long as there is diversity and difference there will always be conflict if the opposing minds cannot hold it in. ' So conformity, brainwashing, and the possiblity of cloning is a valid solution? conformity maybe but the fact of brainwashing and cloning no,
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:21 pm
Here's my idea, and mine is possible. (Mind you mine is not perfect, but it is close.)
The perfect world for me is full of different types of people, all with different ideas, faiths, backgrounds, skin colors, orientations, etc.
Then teach (In early childhood mostly.) a few ideas that don't seem to be taught very often, like how to agree to disagree, how to live with people whose ideas and views are different, and how to think in ways that will benefit both the self and everyone else as well.
If people could allow themselves to think like that, and to act on those kind of thoughts we would have less violence, and more understanding towards people who are different.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:34 pm
before i say anything everyone has to know there isn't anything perfect in life.. that's why we try to make it perfect but all we can do is make it BETTER!
making something PERFECT is not even possible..
if your talking about the people there will always be someone who is corrupt and bad... no matter how much you talk to him or try to show him the way to right he will just deny everything.
and if you wanted to make things better you'll just kill him and that way you'll become bad...
and the Government, they will never be able to make anything perfect!
i know what i'm saying might be wrong.. but i know for sure that the government do things and say it's for the good of the citizens but if it was good why are the people suffering?
Society are the people in it.. if they just followed the RIGHT rules it would have been perfect..
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:54 am
That is very true Squinty
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:11 pm
squinty1989 before i say anything everyone has to know there isn't anything perfect in life.. that's why we try to make it perfect but all we can do is make it BETTER! making something PERFECT is not even possible.. if your talking about the people there will always be someone who is corrupt and bad... no matter how much you talk to him or try to show him the way to right he will just deny everything. and if you wanted to make things better you'll just kill him and that way you'll become bad... and the Government, they will never be able to make anything perfect! i know what i'm saying might be wrong.. but i know for sure that the government do things and say it's for the good of the citizens but if it was good why are the people suffering? Society are the people in it.. if they just followed the RIGHT rules it would have been perfect.. What are these "RIGHT rules" you speak of?
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