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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:10 pm
Okay, so I don't own a horse. crying
But the good news is, I'm planning to buy one in a few years.
I have to save up $10,000+ to buy one, and that takes awhile.
I have a job for 3 hours 45 minutes each week, and it pays about $30 a week.
I'm just wondering, what are things that I will need to prepare for buying before purchasing a horse? I'm going to list the obvious categories, and you can add wherever you want to. 3nodding
Tack (English Dressage and Jumping):
All-Purpose Saddle $200-$2,000
Bridle
Crop $5 (ZOMG I have it! XD)
Health:
Vet Bills
Farrier
Dentist
{Chiropractor}
Grooming:
Body Brush
Curry Comb
Mane/Tail Comb
Coat Shampoo
Coat Conditioner
Hoof Pick
Dandy Brush
Hoof Oil
Board:
Boarding Costs $200-$700 per month
Other:
Halter $10
Lead Rope $10
Travel Boots
Travel Fees
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:40 am
Why do you need to save up $10,000?
confused
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:51 pm
Cljuscblue Okay, so I don't own a horse. crying But the good news is, I'm planning to buy one in a few years. I have to save up $10,000+ to buy one, and that takes awhile. I have a job for 3 hours 45 minutes each week, and it pays about $30 a week. I'm just wondering, what are things that I will need to prepare for buying before purchasing a horse? I'm going to list the obvious categories, and you can add wherever you want to. 3nodding Tack (English Dressage and Jumping): All-Purpose Saddle Bridle Health: Vet Bills Farrier Grooming: Board: Boarding Costs k for starts dont buy the saddle or any tack until you have your horse so that you can be certain that it fits. when you do buy your first saddle i recommend you purchase a all purpose saddle as they are versitile. *you will need to buy a grooming utensils; curray comb, body brush, dandy brush, hoof pick, hoof oil, mane comb, shampoos and conditionors (you dont need to buy the expensive stuff as hunam shampoos work quite well), that is the basic stuff you can buy more once owning the horse. *you will need to set up a first aid kit if the place where your horse is kept at dose not have one; things like bandages, antiseptic, gauze and basic things like that. *if you know appoximately what size your horse will be you may purchase a new halter and lead rope. *you will need to find a place to keep your horse (agistment), a vet, farrier, dentist and possibly a chiropractor. *you will need to purchase hard feed; just basics like oaten chaff, bali and lucerrn chaff will be fine at the beggining. as hay has shoot up in price due to the drought you will need to do some serious looking to locate grass hay, it may be easier to buy ryan clover hay. * if you will be floating the horse to its new home you must purchase either a tail bay or bandage and some travel boots. thats really all i can think of now
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:52 am
Groovy Spleen Why do you need to save up $10,000? confused Welll, to buy the horse! I want a nice horse, and I have to save up a bit for boarding and supplies and stuff too.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:06 pm
You can find a perfectly nice horse for $3000. 3nodding
We looked at plenty of pre-trained horses for under $5000 that were nice. 'Specially if it's your first horse, you DON'T want to spend a lot so that you can get nice stuff that you can use on other horses in the future. If you get a saddle with a changable gullet system (like what Wintec has), then you can use it on other horses as well.
Side reins, even if your horse is pre-trained, are a great thing to have. They vary in size, type, and cost, but I'm particularly fond of the ones with elastic and prefer them over the ones with doughnuts instead. You also want to get a longe line, so that if you are unable to ride or the horse can't be ridden (but still needs to be worked), you can do so if you don't have access to a roundpen. Clippers are also a good idea to have. 3nodding
Oh, and you DEFINATELY want to get a bottle or two of iodine shampoo. You can use that to clean your horses legs if they get mud fever, as well as clean off any cuts and scrapes or if they have some fungal infection (such as ring worm). 3nodding If you can get it at a tractor supply place is best, because that's usually cheaper, maybe 12$? I forget. sweatdrop
You also want to get standing wraps (not polo wraps) and quilted wrap things, for if your horse gets injured. Those also vary in price. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:37 pm
L Y Z Z A C I O U S` DB You can find a perfectly nice horse for $3000. 3nodding
We looked at plenty of pre-trained horses for under $5000 that were nice. 'Specially if it's your first horse, you DON'T want to spend a lot so that you can get nice stuff that you can use on other horses in the future. If you get a saddle with a changable gullet system (like what Wintec has), then you can use it on other horses as well.
Side reins, even if your horse is pre-trained, are a great thing to have. They vary in size, type, and cost, but I'm particularly fond of the ones with elastic and prefer them over the ones with doughnuts instead. You also want to get a longe line, so that if you are unable to ride or the horse can't be ridden (but still needs to be worked), you can do so if you don't have access to a roundpen. Clippers are also a good idea to have. 3nodding
Oh, and you DEFINATELY want to get a bottle or two of iodine shampoo. You can use that to clean your horses legs if they get mud fever, as well as clean off any cuts and scrapes or if they have some fungal infection (such as ring worm). 3nodding If you can get it at a tractor supply place is best, because that's usually cheaper, maybe 12$? I forget. sweatdrop
You also want to get standing wraps (not polo wraps) and quilted wrap things, for if your horse gets injured. Those also vary in price. 3nodding Thank you for all the help! Yeah, I've seen some nice-looking horses for around that much, but I'm not really sure... I wouldn't want an older horse, but I wouldn't want one that I would have to train all that much either. Usually the capabilities of these horses are less than the more expensive ones, but that's just my opinion.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:44 pm
Um, I DEFINITELY think it's a good idea you want to raise up that much money first. If the horse gets sick, emergency vet bills can be really costly. Having a bit of extra set aside is a REALLY good idea that a lot of people overlook. So good job at thinking of that!
And for your first saddle, I'd say don't pay over $1000. I won't pay over $1000 and I've been in horses for a longgg time. rofl
Make sure to get a leather halter, or a breakaway halter. Nylon ones, if the horse is tied somewhere and panics, won't let the horse break free, so it may just panic even more and hurt itself.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:37 pm
I agree with DE. 3nodding
Get a used saddle first.
And I agree with the emergency vet money as well- instead of spending that much on a horse, try to set as much as you can aside for emergencies.
But you can get a plenty nice horse with plenty of training for $5000, and you actually want to be able to train it somewhat, since that'll be a wonderful experience for you, plus you'll be able to teach it some things the way that you do it. I had the opportunity to get a young horse trained up to I think 2nd level in dressage that was going for $3500, and I was going to look at it but I went to see Shay first and he was my winner. xd rofl
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:48 pm
........ At that pay rate and that horse price, it would take you OVER six years just to save up enough money for the horse; not even considering all the crazy expenses that come with owning the horse that you've already listed that are never paid off because they're perpetual, like feed and vet bills. If you really have to save up the money yourself to buy and take care of your own horse, you should probably either
1) look at a much, much cheaper horse
or
2) plan on not owning a horse until you're an adult xp
On such a limited budget and at your age, with no parental assistance, planning on getting THAT "nice" of a horse and being able to take care of it properly is overshooting your boundaries a little. My first horse was $600, unregistered but fully trained, in his early 20's.
At your current "salary," you can't even keep up with board price, much less tack and feed and vet bills and everything else. And in six years, you'll be paying for college, and probably rent on an apartment (or college room and board) and maybe for a car / gas.
No offense, but you're 13 years old. If you want a horse (especially a really nice one) while you're still a teenager, you're probably going to need help from your parents.
Like DE said, otherwise, you'll need to save up the money first (and by then you'll be living on your own anyway unless you work every day as soon as you hit 16; and I'm not saying that's your fault... it's just hard to save up THAT much money as a teenager because we can't have full-time jobs because we spend 8 hours a day in school!).
Personally, I have jobs AND parents that help support my horse, and the best we could get (after my first pony, whom I outgrew - plus he got too expensive to feed) was still just a $500 colt that I had to train myself, because the expenses of owning a horse cost more than the horse itself. My dad pays the necessary / bare minimum vet fees, but if I want something special (like having the vet out for a coggins test), guess who pays for it? We trim our own horses' hooves, too, and it's still expensive to keep them. (We have two, my $500 colt and my sister's $300 pony who hardly eats anything).
I don't mean to sound discouraging, but I just think a slight reality check might be in order -- plenty of teenagers save up money themselves to buy their own horses, but with more meager circumstances in mind. (i.e. maybe a 15hh unregistered $1000 QH as opposed to a 16hh registered $10,000 warmblood).
Main point of post: Lower expectations make for less diappointment.
I completely take back everything I've just said if your parents are going to pay for the horse in some way (i.e. you buy your own horse and they'll pay all the feed/vet bills) or if you weren't planning on actually buying a horse until you're an adult/college student anyway, though even then I think it's definitely a better idea to shoot for something a lot cheaper. o__0
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:07 pm
I agree with Elisha. With 30 bucks a week, you might be in far over your head. If your horse gets into an accident or happens to need special shoes/medicine/lotions/feeds/tack etc, your going to be up a certain polluted creek without a paddle.
I would suggest leasing a horse first. It can be just as fun as owning your own horse, and you can end up leasing some pretty nice horses if you make connections. Plus, you can actually check yourself to see if you are ready for the HUGE responsibilities a horse brings.
This may not apply to you, but I have met quite a few young teens that quickly dropped the idea of owning a horse after having a taste at leasing one....
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:22 pm
yeah, like said, try leasing a horse if ur parents arent supporting you. my parents dont support me (at all... stare ) with horse stuff, but i work off my horses board which is the biggest part of it. i have a job too, $30 a week, more in summer. but im 17. plus i basically had my horse handed to me on a silver platter. i bought my first horse with my own money ($1300), sold him for $1500 (he was too gibbled for what i want to do) and bought my horse with that money as a kind of "free lease". can u ride well? like, do u take lessons and stuff like that? its good to become associated with a barn or a saddle club or a group (like pony club or 4H). but yeah, look around for a horse to lease, that would be ur best bet.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:59 pm
Okay, hun, I really hate to break it to you, but you should not get a 10.000 dollar horse for your first horse. One, they're high maitenence, and two... that's rediculous. You can just as easily get one for 3000 that would suit you SO much better.
But holy geeze. 30 bucks a week is NOT going to support you for long, at ALL.
I mean, I work a job training horses where I get paid 30 bucks an HOUR, and that's for two hours four times a week, which is 240$ a week. And then I get paid 8 bucks an hour at a gas station five times a week for two hours, which ammounts to 80 bucks a week. So, about 320 bucks a week, and then I get random oppertunities. Like the week after next I'm getting paid 1600$ to do a four hour presentation. There's a little over four weeks this month, so, let's just round to four. After taxes, I'll be getting paid about $294.40 at the end of it, plus 1600$, so $1894.40 in one month... and I'm INCREDIBLY lucky to have gotten this 1600. Now, I've put aside 50 bucks for gas next month, 30 for eating out (I need to with my jobs xD) and then another 50 for spending money on my trip later this month.
So now I'm down to 1764.4$
Then I have to put 600 of the 1600 into my college fund, so that's down to 1164.40... and then 150 is going into paying my parents for insurance... 1014.40... and then 300 goes into my savings, giving me 714.40, and the rest is going into the 2300$ I owe for my trip.
That's $1920.00 GONE in one month... my whole earnings. I have not a cent left to pay for a horse.
Now, what did I say I earned in a month? About 300 bucks, yeah?
Okay, now if I was paying for a HORSE, that's about 150 a month for board with vet fees, and I'm already down to 150 of my earnings. I have gas (50), food (30), insurance (90... this month is starting rate >.<), and I've already gone OVER what I've earned, AND I still owe money for my trip... not to mention I have guitar matenence, art supplies, then emergency horse money...
and then what if the horse needs some sort of special care? You need to pay someone to look after them if you can't. x_x
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, hun, but if I work two jobs (I'm working 4 hours most days... and I suppose I'll make 60 bucks in a weekend, but again, going to my trip and not NEARLY enough to support a horse) and go to school, and have to pay for a car (which you WILL want by the time you get a horse at your rate)... you're going to need to work WAY more than what you do now, and holy crap girl, you're not going to have time to visit your horse!
I mean, the only reason why I even get to be around horses is because that's one of my jobs. And some days I'm dragging my a** out of bed at 4am so I can get to the farm by 5, work until 7, get home, get ready for school, get there by 8:30, get home at 4, work until 6, do homework until 7, housework till 8, homework until late, chill on the comp for a bit during homework (math right now xDDDDD), and then crash. x_x
I can't say I enjoy handling one 17.3hh mare and another 18hh gelding at 5am every morning. x_x
But it's earning me money, so.
Oh, yeah, and I loose money for the days I'm at the presentations because I have to miss work. :nodnodnodnod:.
Again, NOT trying to burst your bubble... I'm saying LEASE a horse and get some help with it xd
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:29 pm
Yeah, I understand what everyone's saying. I hope I'll be able to start a job as a working student soon, so when and if I get a horse I'll be able to pay off the board that way.
I wasn't really planning to spend $10,000 on the horse, but save it for the horse + tack + vet bills + emergency stuff and all the other things I'll need.
I'm planning to get another job of some sort in about a year maybe, so I could make more money that way, enough to fill the $10,000.
-has had my bubble bursted- crying
I think before I would buy a horse that I was seriously thinking about, I would lease it, but the horse most likely wouldn't be kept at the barn at that time... so what would I do about that? sweatdrop
About my parents supporting me... my job and most other things I can make money off of in the future are going towards this fund, so I don't really have to worry about food or bills or stuff like that. I'm using most of what my family gives me annually to do whatever I want with (maybe $1000?) towards it as well. I have also never trained a horse before, so I don't know if $1000 horse is right for me. I would also want a horse that would be well-trained and have low-level showing ability.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:10 pm
I bought a well trained gelding with show ability for $300.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:54 pm
Groovy Spleen I bought a well trained gelding with show ability for $300. *got a well-trained gelding with show ability for $600; mentioned him already*
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