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So who's your favorite URTV?
666 Rubedo
50%
 50%  [ 9 ]
667 Albedo
38%
 38%  [ 7 ]
668 Citrine
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
669 Nigrido
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
One of the other less important ones 001 - 665
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Yuriev (ok, so he's not a URTV but he's close enough)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 18


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:18 pm


Since there are many many theories and discussions regarding the URTV floating around the board right now (and partly just because I like them ^.^) I figured I'd start a topic dedicated to them. Anything goes in here so long as it's safe under the TOS (*cough*I'm talking to you Emarillian*cough*) and it's got something to do with the URTV.

Spoilers are fair game here for either episode (so you don't have to mark them unless you feel like it).

I'd post something interesting right now but I have to go read a book about Hitler for history class (we're reading the abridged version and it's about 2" thick T.T) so have fun with the poll instead.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:19 pm


^<^ Nice topic and I got first vote! Albedo all the way! XD *crazy fan-girl side coming up* OMg now that you mention Hitler in a Xenosaga topic, Virgil has very good potential to be the next Hitler against....dun dun dun.... Realians!!! Oh whatt on earth will we all do?!!

KOS-MOS: I have eliminated Virgil with detection of the 99.9997% chance he could become the next Hitler.

chaos: Wow, Shion programmed you for that?

Shion: Don't look at me! I think she really just makes this stuff up! I have no clue how she can predetermine the future..nuh uh...

KOS-MOS: Honestly... it's all in the script...

chaos leans over and whispers to KOS-MOS: Shh... she still thinks were on the set of the Woglinde...

KOS-MOS: Oh come on, being grabbed by Jnosis really scared her that much??!!!!

chaos: Well... Jnosis acts so much like a Gnosis, its hard not to believe. Then theirs that crazy guy running around on the set chopping his head off and showing it to MOMO.

KOS-MOS: Oh...that guy...yes...I intend to do something about him later

They watch as a screaming MOMO runs by followed by Albedo who screams out "Oh come on MOMO! Just look at it!!! Ill let you poke it with a stick!!" while holding out his head to her.

Followed by the director.

Me sitting in the audience with my mouth wide open, "Oh dear... I need a new daytime hobby"

Memory of the Sky


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:40 pm


Hehehe for some reason that just reminded me of this:

http://www.pbase.com/harrisc/image/21357048
Albedo in a MOMO T-shirt ^.^ (and Shion, KOSy and Chaos power-puff style, curtosey of Choco). And just in case anyone is wondering that whole gallery has scans from Xeno Emission Preview (not my scans but pretty scans none the less). ^_^

On another URTV related note. Doesn't Jr. just have the coolest jackets? *wants to make both jackets* Though I'm still wondering why his new one has the "R" monogramed on it. I think it's suposed to have something to do with "Red Dragon Mode" (I believe he mentions something about it and then points to the design on his jacket - well not really pointing but you know what I mean) with the wings and all, but why the hell would he have a jacket like that? Unless Yuriev had it made for him (which doesn't make sense since the URTV all had the same uniforms). Or the R could just stand for Rubedo (that is if I completely misinterpreted what that gesture I was reffering to above meant - he does it in the scene during the URTV flashback sequence in disk 1 where lil' Albedo is digging a grave) - which also doesn't make sense because why would Jr. have a jacket with a refference to his old name which he doesn't particularly like because it has "bad memories" attached to it? Oh well it's still an incredibly cool jacket.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:04 pm


URTV stands for?

DCVI


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:18 pm


U-DO ReTro Virus

There are 669 URTV, created by Dr. Dimitri Yuriev. Essentially the URTV are clones of the doctor (Juli Mizrahi was the egg donor for the project). Designed to combat U-DO. There are 4 special URTV, 666 Rubedo, 667 Albedo, 668 Cirtine, and 669 Nigredo. They have special abilities not common to the other 665 URTV. 666 Rubedo is the leader of the group and has a special ability called "Red Dragon Mode" (not sure exactly what it is though). 666 and 667 were conjoined at some point in development but were seperated before birth. Cannan comments that "imperfect seperation may occur" in refference to the two, hinting that it probably did occur, explaining Rubedo's comment "Albedo... a fragment of me... the beating in my chest" (I think that's the quote... I'm just typing this off the top of my head so it might not be right). There are 8 (or was it 9?) female URTV, Cirtine explains why but I didn't understand what she said well enough to try to explain it myself - something to do with mtDNA though.

Interestingly enough I Wiki-ed "retrovirus" today and found out some more information about what a retrovirus is:

Wikipedia
A retrovirus is a virus which has a genome consisting of RNA. It relies on reverse transcriptase to perform a kind of reverse transcription of its genome from RNA into DNA for insertion by integrase into the host's genome. The virus itself is just a storage form for its DNA; the reverse transcription takes place in the host's cytosol. A retrovirus' genome integrated into the host's genome is called a provirus.

The retrovirus genome contains at least three genes:
- gag codes for core and structural proteins of the virus.
- pol codes for reverse transcriptase, protease and integrase.
- env codes for the virus hull proteins.

Four identified human retroviruses (HTLV 1&2, HIV 1&2) attack CD4 cells. Another feature common to all retroviruses is a lipid envelope surrounding their capsid. It is essential for their function. This explains why retroviruses can be killed by just washing hands.

Studies of these viruses are what first demonstrated the synthesis of DNA from RNA templates, a fundamental mode for transferring genetic material that occurs in both eukaryotes and prokaryotes.

Note: In view of current knowledge of retroviruses, the classification into three subfamilies (Oncovirinae, Lentivirinae, and Spumavirinae) is no longer appropriate.


Basically it rewrites a portion of a DNA sequence (if I understood that correctly - I need to ask my AP Bio teacher...) and if my understanding of U-DO is correct it was a type of program, so maybe the URTV were designed to rewrite a portion of U-DO's programing that went nutso. But I still don't understand U-DO well enough to have much confidence in that last statement.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:08 am


Another example for retrovirus is think about Resident Evil. When someone dies all the cells in your body die, and cease functioning. The Virus in the movie and games were known as a Retrovirus, the virus was able to re-animate the dead body cells...even their brain which they did not use...but why they wanted to eat.... BRAINS..... or................ FLESH.................

Is far beyond me, because I don't think the retrovirus was really ment to do that, It was just there to re-animate the cells.

Anyway...

U-DO was a program, and I do believe that the URTV have the capabilities to rewrite the program, because this can be supported possibly by the fact, when they were being attacked, Jr let his hands hover over those shinny buttons and his eyes glowed. This is just a possibility XD

Red Dragon Mode - I just think theirs nothing really special about this... I just think it's when Jr. looses his temper and releases that biiigggg aura @_@

Memory of the Sky


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:25 am


Ephemerality
Red Dragon Mode - I just think theirs nothing really special about this... I just think it's when Jr. looses his temper and releases that biiigggg aura @_@


Ok that's what I thought. But they kept making such a big deal about it (Citrine tells Nigredo about it like it's some big secret evil evil thing and Jr. totally freaks out during the ending when it starts to kick in until Sakura calms him down again) that I figured there had to be something more to it.

On a slightly related note, what's with that whole Gaignun turning into Yuriev thing? Now that was bizare and unexpected.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:27 pm


One question, though. Who happens to be this Canaan? I still haven't learned that, shame on me. sweatdrop

Milleia

Enduring Evader


Memory of the Sky

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:21 pm


I really don't know Shojo, it could of been during that time when Yuriev and those peoples were gonna do something to Gaignun and thats when he pulls out his gun and goes... BANG!!! @_@;;; Since Gaignun is a URTV, maybe.... Yuriev programmed his...sunconsciousness into Gaignun?? @_@ I DONT KNOW!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

*screams then cries then runs away*
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:36 pm


Mileia_Sermones_III
One question, though. Who happens to be this Canaan? I still haven't learned that, shame on me. sweatdrop
He is a Realian who worked with Chaos on a mission from 14 years ago. Seems like he was created for Military purposes. You'll get to see him in the opening of Ep 2.

Syn_Beloved


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:38 pm


Mileia_Sermones_III
One question, though. Who happens to be this Canaan? I still haven't learned that, shame on me. sweatdrop


This is Cannan. He's a specialized realian produced by Vector sometime before the Miltian Conflict. He pilots the ES Asher with chaos at one point.

Ephemerality
I really don't know Shojo, it could of been during that time when Yuriev and those peoples were gonna do something to Gaignun and thats when he pulls out his gun and goes... BANG!!! @_@;;; Since Gaignun is a URTV, maybe.... Yuriev programmed his...sunconsciousness into Gaignun?? @_@ I DONT KNOW!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

*screams then cries then runs away*


Yeah I've been thinking that that scene had something to do with it. *runs off to attempt to transcribe the scene and throw it into her translator program* (side note: I dunno if you've seen this yet but http://www.kosmosheart.com/xse2 has all of the ep2 cutscenes up for download - the bandwith dies often though).
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:01 pm


i love albedo so much! okay. i have to be within pg-13 limits. um... um. uh... darnit!! okay ive got it. albedo and rubedo are "friends". they are friends who like to "hug" sometimes. and they like to do a "rhythmic dance" when theyre "hugging". alright ill shut up now. im just amused by their cutness.

Emariliean


Tsaret

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:57 pm


Quote:
There are 669 URTV, created by Dr. Dimitri Yuriev. Essentially the URTV are clones of the doctor (Juli Mizrahi was the egg donor for the project).


Whoa, backtrack.

Even more evidence that Yuriev and Juli had an affair.

YES! XENOSOAPOPERA!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:52 pm


Ekplixi
Quote:
There are 669 URTV, created by Dr. Dimitri Yuriev. Essentially the URTV are clones of the doctor (Juli Mizrahi was the egg donor for the project).


Whoa, backtrack.

Even more evidence that Yuriev and Juli had an affair.

YES! XENOSOAPOPERA!


Their relationship still weirds me out - Joachim didn't show up ONCE in E2 which confused me even more (I mean he wasn't dead yet - maybe Juli and he were seperated?). I dunno but I think the Mizrahis and Yuriev were sort of research partners of sorts because Yuriev was using Sakura for... something (I still don't understand what exactly) in regard to the URTV.

Which brings me to another interesting point, that Juli is both Jr. AND Sakura's mother (though theoretically they should only share mtDNA).

shojokakumeii00
Captain


Emariliean

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:20 pm


*blinks confusedly* shojo??? you posted. but...but you didnt respond to my amusing post. i am sad. so i will continue to make innuendos! mwhaahahaha! ema now has free reign over innuendos!!! beware!
rubedo might be small in stature but he makes up for that by the size of his....heart. albedo likes rubedos heart. he likes it a lot. albedo and rubedo were joined in the chest. i think that implies stuff. stuff like being joined. being joined at places including the chest. like...your feet. yeah...feet....rubedo and albedo have very large feet. and you know what they say about the size of your feet...okay im done for now.
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