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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:55 am
I've been listening to peple talk a lot recently about the problems in the government, and how they'd like to change them. What many of these people don't realize is this-the Declaration of Independance says, and I quote "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all me are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator certain, unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever ant form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it" and "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to to reduce them under absolute despotisim, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." In layman's terms-if we don't like what the government is doing, it's our right to change it, and if the government is being oppresive, it's our duty to get rid of it in favor of a non oppressive one. But there's only one small problem here-attempting to follow through on these things, which we're told is our right and our duty, is treason. So, how does one go about fixing the problems in our government if doing so is treason?
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:31 pm
I have been thinking the same thing. However, I don't see it as treason, I see it as "total unequivocal change".
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:18 pm
My Conscience I have been thinking the same thing. However, I don't see it as treason, I see it as "total unequivocal change". The government sees it as treason, though. The same way it's illegal to secede-how can it be illegal for me to stop acknowledging one government by creating a new one that supercedes the government I'm leaving?
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:53 pm
To be quite honest, it's only treason if we fail. That said, I just committed conspiracy to commit treason, but since I don't plan on making any serious reform until I can get a solid support base offline, I'm not seriously concerned.
Every government is afraid of being usurped, hence the treason laws. However, since we seceded from the United Kingdom, we have a clause that should be applicable. (If you can find someone in the government who will interpret that clause in any way that will destroy the U.S. government, more power to you.)
The secession part wasn't added until after the war between the States.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:32 am
According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:29 pm
My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:24 am
writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:35 am
My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:00 am
Cougar Draven My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda. pirate
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:41 am
Cougar Draven My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda. I'm all for a revolution, actually. I think it would be the most effective way to get what we want. Our government sucks. So Cougar, count me in. (PS-I'm gonna start a thread in ED about revolutions soon. Look it up.) And, I'm curious-how is that movie Communist Propaganda? I hadn't actually heard that before. I'd heard that (I can't confirm this, though) Arthur Miller was put under watch for writing The Crucible, though.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:12 pm
writercxvii Cougar Draven My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda. I'm all for a revolution, actually. I think it would be the most effective way to get what we want. Our government sucks. So Cougar, count me in. (PS-I'm gonna start a thread in ED about revolutions soon. Look it up.) And, I'm curious-how is that movie Communist Propaganda? I hadn't actually heard that before. I'd heard that (I can't confirm this, though) Arthur Miller was put under watch for writing The Crucible, though.You will definitely see me join your guild 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:50 pm
writercxvii Cougar Draven My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda. I'm all for a revolution, actually. I think it would be the most effective way to get what we want. Our government sucks. So Cougar, count me in. (PS-I'm gonna start a thread in ED about revolutions soon. Look it up.) And, I'm curious-how is that movie Communist Propaganda? I hadn't actually heard that before. I'd heard that (I can't confirm this, though) Arthur Miller was put under watch for writing The Crucible, though.Something about the common man being the hero, and capitalism the enemy. Paranoia. And I've been compared to the Pied Piper a lot recently.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:59 pm
Cougar Draven writercxvii Cougar Draven My Conscience writercxvii My Conscience According to the FBI, me and Contra mundus are terrorists xd http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/FBI-MCOSTerrorist.pdf I'm willing to bet that if the FBI could see this site, they'd think that the majority of Gaia were terrorists. They're paranoid. Then my plan is working domokun And yet I, who openly admit to planning the fall of the U.S. Government, does not fit their profile. (Unless they read my writing. Then, I'm ******** is the same FBI that said It's a Wonderful Life was Communist propaganda. I'm all for a revolution, actually. I think it would be the most effective way to get what we want. Our government sucks. So Cougar, count me in. (PS-I'm gonna start a thread in ED about revolutions soon. Look it up.) And, I'm curious-how is that movie Communist Propaganda? I hadn't actually heard that before. I'd heard that (I can't confirm this, though) Arthur Miller was put under watch for writing The Crucible, though.Something about the common man being the hero, and capitalism the enemy. Paranoia. And I've been compared to the Pied Piper a lot recently. Can't imagine why. Although you strike me as more of an idealistic young revolutionary. The kind 'The People' hate.
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