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The Extraordinary Lauren Crew
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:30 pm
((Come on Peeps, don't let me be to only one who makes topics!!))
So as most of us know, gay marriage is not allowed in the United States. Ins ome select places there are civil unions but not full rights. Civil unions are basically marriage rights but only up to a state level. Full marriage is up to a federal level. This denies couples who are in love many things. If a person was hurt and sent to the hosipital, a lot fo the times the partner will not know and the family will keep them out of the loop.
Countries in Europe like Spain allow gay marriage. Isreal recognizes foreign gay marriage. Why is it we will not?
What do you think we have to overcome before gay marriage is allowed?
((once again, if I left out anything or wish for me to add something to this first post let me know
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:07 pm
Prejeduce, that's the problem. We have too many conformists in this stupid country and most of the population is still looking for ways to control society. First we had slavery, and then immigrants, and now that homosexuality is an open topic it's the new thing to control! If two people love eachother, let them get married!
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:41 pm
I heard about a couple where the older man adopted the younger one, so if something happened to either of them, they would be the first to know.
I really do think people should be allowed to love each other. There is a lot that they are missing because they aren't married. I can understand the whole church issue, but marriage isn't just for Christians. What is so terrible about legally binding two men, or women? I understand priests not wanting to wed them in a church, that can make sense. But what also bugs me, if "God" doesn't hate anything, why does "God" hate gays? Then they argue, it's not hate, it's just wrong. Why would "God" create anything that is just wrong? People wonder why "God" made deadly spiders, or disease, but there is a reason. Spiders eat other animals which need to be kept at a good population level, diseases keep our population down. Why would "God" let there be something wrong?
No matter what the gender, people should be able to love. No matter who thinks there is something wrong with it. I want to go to someone who argues that they don't want gays to love, and tell them that they aren't allowed to love their husband or wife. They'll claim "It's not the same!?" what's so different about it? You love them, right? Well, it's the same kind of love! Love is love, damnit!
I gotta stop, I'm going to go out on a tangent. (Obviously a member of my school's Gay Straight Alliance.)
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:14 am
I'm totally pro gay marrige, it's not our place to judge love.
My friend said something really intiresting though. He said "If we allow gay marrige then why not let someone marry a child? Or someone have multiple wives?" That one stumped me.....
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:14 pm
I saw this image somewhere on Gaia, it might have been in this guild, I'm not sure.  I think Gay Marriage should be legal. If two people, no matter what gender, decide that they are in love enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together, they should be allowed to make that commitment legally. I agree with KittyAdoresKisses, prejudice is what is blocking so many minds. I also agree with Skully, the priests don't have to marry gays in the church, but that is no reason for them not to be allowed to be married legally.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:21 pm
Yeah, I personally have no problem with modifying the legal definition of marriage to include homosexual couples as well as heterosexual couples. The United States has far greater issues to confront than whether or not a married gay couple should be allowed the same priveleges as a married straight couple. Our society evolves, and some of our laws should be able to adapt to the country's changing face.
I'm pretty sure only fringe groups claim that "God hates gays." Until last year, I went to a church that simply considered homosexuality a sin, and unnatural. I don't think love between two consenting adults is a sin, or unnatural, though, and that's one of the reasons I stopped attending church.
I just think it's important to remember that Christians aren't the only people who oppose homosexual relationships. In countries under Sharia law, homosexuality is illegal, and, in many nations where fundamental Islam governs the law, punishable by death.
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:48 am
Okay, I'm gonna say this right out. I am a Christian.
So, my opinion is that they should be allowed the same benefits. I'm not for gay marrige but I'm not against either. They are people and deserve to be treated the same, regardless of their sexual preferences. It is a sin, according to the Bible, but it is not one of the bigger ones. It is basically the same as lying to a friend. And no one is sinless so I don't see anything wrong with it really.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:29 pm
japanesejuicebox My friend said something really intiresting though. He said "If we allow gay marrige then why not let someone marry a child? Or someone have multiple wives?" That one stumped me..... Thats what my dad says, and I think it kinda makes sense. The traditional idea of a marriage is man and a woman. We can either leave that tradition as it is; or change it. And if we change a tried and true tradition, whats to stop another change to it? Then another? If we allow gays to marry, then zoophilles are going to step forward and ask to get married. Its the nature of the human race to try to push the limits. It makes sense, but I also think its kinda unfair to homosexuals, who are two consenting adults. I'm really divided on this issue... I think the best thing would be to have some sort of legal union. Where for all intents and purposes, the couple would be legally married, it just wouldn't be called "Marriage." But you know, afterall, who needs a church to tell them they can love each other? Love doesn't have to be recognized by the church or confirmed by a priest; it just exists, and can between any combination of genders. I think marriage in general is weird. As long as we're on the "God hates gays" thing; if I recall god hates the sin, not the sinner. Besides, I don't think the Christian God has a problem with homosexuality itself, just gay sex. God flips out over all lusty acts; any sort of sex that isn't meant to produce children. I somehow have the feeling that a straight couple having oral sex is just as bad as a gay couple having sex. I highly doubt it says anywhere in the bible that a man can't love another man.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:24 am
japanesejuicebox I'm totally pro gay marrige, it's not our place to judge love. My friend said something really intiresting though. He said "If we allow gay marrige then why not let someone marry a child? Or someone have multiple wives?" That one stumped me.....
I, for one, am completely for homosexual rights and marriage. To discriminate against them is just as bad, in my opinion as racism. We don't not allow people from other races to marry just because they are different, right?
I also heard of some dispute happening on whether homosexuals are born that way, or choose that way. I don't claim to know the answer, but I don't know why it's such a big deal. If they're born that way, see it as a race. People cannot choose their race. If it's a lifestyle choice, then see it as a religion. People can choose their religion.
I don't get the big problem over homosexuals...They're just people, mean people, nice people, good people and bad people, just like everyone else.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:10 pm
Wow, I felt bad when I looked at the poll results and saw I was the only one against gay marriage.
However, it isn't prejudice against homosexuals. I am prejudice against marriage in general. It is viewed as a religious joining. Under religious terms, homosexuality is wrong. This in itself would be infringing on people rights to their religious beliefs.
I am completely for civil unions. For straights or gays. Union-ship should provide the same rights to a couple as would a marriage, but it would not be on religious terms. I believe that a straight couple should just as well become a partnership through union as much as a gay couple.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:07 pm
But what if you're a religious homosexual? I know someone who is homosexual, but he's also deeply religious, which led to plenty of denial, depression and confusion early on in his life. I mean, no one should take religion away from homosexuals, because religion is a very good, and life changing thing if taken in the right respect. Can't you believe in God and want to be united in holy matrinomy even if you're gay?
According to the bible there are plenty of things that it says you should or should not do, but they are ignored too. Because you're a sinner and a bad person doesn't mean that you're not allowed to get married, so looking at it from the same objective standpoint, then why isn't gay marriage treated the same?
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:50 am
I don't see nothing wrong with gay marriage. If two adults love each other they should be allowed to get married. Here in Finland gay couples can have a civil union and get married in magistrate but not in church. That's mainly because most of our churches are very anti-gay. And that's sad. One of the reasons why I'll "revoke my church membership" when I turn 18.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:02 pm
i am all for gay marriage. why wouldn't I be? two of my friends are gay and i have a friend who's bi. i evn participated in a day of silence for them at school because of the discrimination they and their friends face.
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:51 pm
Yeah, so I read something off a button that I love,
"If we give rights to gays then everyone's going to want them!"
haha. Anyway, more seriously, I have been able to form my opinion into better words (which I was still trying to do right last time)
If two concentual adults want to get married, it should not be the government's say to not let them. The government needs to worry about being a government, and not this crap. I also understand that 'marrige' is a holy 'ritual' in a sense. They don't have to be married in a church, but as long as they get the same rights as married couples (which civil unions don't have) and the same respect of the comitment they are making eachother.
Not our place to judge or impose our religion/beliefs on people. As long as the government protects our initial rights, we're all good.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:35 pm
mikodono Okay, I'm gonna say this right out. I am a Christian. So, my opinion is that they should be allowed the same benefits. I'm not for gay marriage but I'm not against either. They are people and deserve to be treated the same, regardless of their sexual preferences. It is a sin, according to the Bible, but it is not one of the bigger ones. It is basically the same as lying to a friend. And no one is sinless so I don't see anything wrong with it really. Actually, the bible says you should be put to death for being homosexual, so I'd say that it is considered a "major sin". wink I'm for gay marriage 100%. The number one reason people are against it is because the bible says it's wrong, even for people who aren't very religious, it's been stamped into their brains from an early age. What happened to separation of church and state? If it's state and federal benefits, not to mention being legally bonded with a person you love, that you're trying to get, you shouldn't have to be limited to a "civil union". Freedom of religion and choice are things that Americans are promised, and yet some Americans are extremely limited in things like this. Edit: I would like to one day be married(heterosexual marriage is what it's looking likely to be at this point)but I don't want to get married in a church, or with a bible used at the ceremony. I don't need my marriage to be "under god" for me to be happy. Not sure what i'll be able to have as an alternative though... 
~The moment that you stepped into the room you took my breath awayl~
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