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well pretty much everyone probably saw the whole show they put on bout the british soldiers who were captured and detained

i just think it will probably make a big point about he women in the military cuz the first to give in was the female and now she's practically crying about her terribel time in the papers

not that the guys are much better but they let her go irst so it will most naturally reflect like that to

i'm just thinking where's the time when people knew if you go to the army you risk life and limb
but these p***y's didn't even put up a ight getting "arrested" and they broke during interogations without even the slightest bit of torture

and the woman is saying they were bringing her child into i yeah hey your a soldier you could get shot every second you won't see her anymore then either duh
why do they all think of it like a 9 to 5 job it's the army anything could happen buyou take the risk cuz you wrote up nobody forced em to

it's just so ******** that they're screaming for the smallest booboo where's the time when they would die for their country and the people left behind were proud they did that

understand what you start and then do it not write in cuz i sounds cool and then wine about having to go to war

well didn't mean to start is the war good or bad thing cuz i actually do agree with bush on going over there even to irak yes
the war plan itself sucked but the intent was good he just had idiot advisors and he is an idiot but can't blame him last time the pres took heat for leaving after winning so now he doesn't and he's taking heat for staying

anyways back to the thing at hand

see they acted like soldiers the way they should and are expected to pow's shut up and take torture part o the job

i don't think it damaged both cuz iran got it's point across we do what we want and nobody will stop us and a good public showing made people think cuz i'm sure alot think the soldiers are covering up their asses now

yeah it's disappointing and sad that they die like that but they know it will happen i'm sure your familie is aware of that to
you have to know there's the chance of not coming back and your familie knows to so they shouldn't complain about it later when they always knew it could happen

the iran thing is bush finally being cautious he lost so much on irak and got no support he knows he can't go into iran without support and irans leader (unpronouncable name) has proven with taking these men and woman that no country of the un will go against him in aid of bush or blair

i think that's one reason bush hasn't with all the bad press and resistance in he homeland it's almost insane to go in now

so sadly you may be right that they simply drop a bomb out of anger and desperation

What i meant by brutal bastards is that iran kept hostages just for the sake of publicly humiliating Britain. Not to mention that their intelligence was changed. At first the coordinates they gave put the ship in iraqi waters. the second set put them in iranian waters. They wanted to flex their muscles to let everyone know they're powerful. And the Iranian president didn't back off until other countries got involved... countries that are normally on his side, and they told him not to push this. His own people didn't want him to push this. I'm not saying that Gitmo is better. Everyone here already knows what's really going on there, we just can't get enough support in congress to stop it. After a change in president, we may see the changes needed to stop it. Just too bad we can't try Bush as a war criminal. We did it to someone else.

As for the brainwashing of the military... i think every country does that to their soldiers.

sorry chibi but like i said i personally do support bush on most of his thinking he just performs supidly
so he shouldn't be tryd as a war criminal wich i think is absurd by the way war is war it's violent dirty and disguisting if it wasn't people would just rush into it like bush did everything went so perfectly in afganistan and it was so nice it didn't feel like war iraq is clearly war it's dirty deadly and inhumane exactly as it should be and to be honoust this is more still a terrorism thing because if you look at the north of iraq you see people rebuilding and happy at these changes even trying to build a new dubay the trouble round bagdad and the south is pure terrorism and i bet if he left he'd get the same criticism america got the last time they were in iraq that he abandonned it and now that he stays hes getting s**t because people are dying wich is normal in war

publicly being damaged by war is ridiculous to get information you torture and abuse your captives and you have a chance to take revenge for your fallen comrades this is how wars are won by intell extacted from prisoners and since those moslims they capture aren't mentally as weak as the british that were captured they actually have to work to get intell and those people knew what they were getting into when they started picking up guns and shooting at their enemy

it might be true that some in there didn't do nothing i don't know for sure but isn't it beter that 1 or 2 innocents are caught in the crossfire rather then dozens escape and get to kill dozens more
wich is more important 1 that is known or dozens that are safed butt are unknown

as for iran it is clear that their pres is a moslim fundamentalist like the terrorists that are fighting and killing people all over the west
and he clearly wants to flex his muscle's a bit and keeps on going with nuclear energy to make weapons
cuz if i was really energy he wanted he'd put up sun panels in that area he'd have more then his county needed he could even sell it to the west and other arabian country's

now back to the matter at hand even if they were on a ship soldiers are soldiers they go into a war area and are possibly subject to death, torture, humiliation and even mutilation this is all possible in war and they should ge this before signing up
as for them selling their stories i'm a bit conflicted
on one end it's good they rectafied what they said in irannian broadcasts even if it made tem look like spineless assholes
but if they keep the money they should be scolded for it however if they donate that money to charity then at least it did some good