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Okay, it was inevitable, so here it is.

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I can help with Vintage, mainly cause while I do keep up on rules/cards, I tend to forge t what cards have or have not left rotation for Std/EXT/Vin/etc...

Yeah, its nice to see so many familiar faces, especially since I know that many of us do actually have decks that we're looking for serious suggestions on.

As to the poll, I figure I'll keep it up for two or three sets, and if there's no complaints, then this thread will also hold the [set name here] testing, at least, inside the guild.

I was wondering why you hadn't yet. xd

It seems like your trying to do too much stuff at once here. If your going for an aggro/control sort of thing maybe you could cut down to 2 colours like U/B or some such, as it seems theres not too much white stuff that you really need in there. And take out some of the more random 1-ofs that aren't really helping much like Demonic Consallation, Curse of the cabal and veiling oddity.

Try to maybe focus on more solid creatures and counter/removal. Stuff like Last Gasp, Sudden Death, Cancel, Rune snag are all pretty neat.

And maybe cut the Urborgs down a bit to 1 or 2. Its great to be able to get mana fixing, it would just suck if you drew multiple and just had this dead card in your hand.

Of course if you could get Dual and painlands for the colours your playing, that could always help too. I just know their a pain in the a** to come by sometimes. Its just kinda hard to play multi-coloured decks without them.

We could probably help more, if you told us a bit more about what your trying to do with the deck.

I'll just assume you don't have Duals/pains either. But you MUST get the 3 extra Magnivores if you want this deck to work. C'mon how much could those things possibly be going for 3-4 bucks at most? I believe in you hon, you can get them.

THe chromatic stars seem pretty unneeded since you already have 4 Rampant Growth and 3 Search For Tommorows. And I think you could definatley drop the Woodreaders, as I can't imagine them doing anything too much in here.

I actually think R/G landkill Wildfire could be cool. But with a bit more focus. And definatley, definatley more win conditions, from the looks of it you only have like 3 guys that might actually be able to swing for damage. I would try something like

-4 Star
-3 Seismic Spike
-2 Woodreaders
-3 Browbeat (Harmonize should be cool enough)
-3 Search For Tommorows
-1 Creeping Mold

+2 Wildfire
+3 Savage Twister
+3 Magnivore
+4 Rumbling Slum
+4 R/G Signet (comes out more consistently on turn 2 and survives wildfire

Its not the best suggestions. But its all I could think of really whilst still basically keeping the same idea of what your trying to do.

Sidenote to Lia: I really dig the idea of us helping people with decks and posting our own decks and what not. I just still think it would be easier if we gave each deck its own thread. Or maybe even made a subforum in here where people could post decks.

Its just hard to get good responses for your deck when someone might post another deck right after yours. It makes it tougher to respond to decks as well as tougher to get responses.

I might even suggest something similiar to what they have on other popular magic sites. wheres theres a subforum for each format and what not. Or since were a fairly small group, I suppose even just a "Post your decks" forum would suffice.

I totally don't mean to nag or complain or anything. Just throwing in my 2 cents.

WARNING: FOR VINTAGE PLAY!!! I built this deck based on MY abilities and preferences, I have fun playing it and win enough to warrant keeping it updated. I do not have any "PLANAR CHAOS" Cards yet so will not list cards I have not personally tested. My usual groups I play with prefer Vintage and while we do build Std decks, we usually only exclude "Unglued/Unhinged"

Total cost for deck, $13.56 and creative trading....



Okay heres the deck.
NAME: All American

COLOR(s): Red / White / Blue

PURPOSE: Field control using high tech and big nukes.

TURN AVERAGE FOR WIN (for people that only care about that.): 3

LANDS-
Plains x5
Mountain x2
Island x3
Seat of the Synod x2
Great Furnace x3
Ancient Den x2
Darksteel Citadel x3
Cloudpost x4
Izzet Boilerworks x4
Azorious Chancery x3
Boros Garrison x2

CREATURES-
Artifact:
Platinum Angel x1
Mycosynth Golem x2
Myr Retriever x3
Stuffy Doll x1
Blue
Myojin of Seeing Winds x1
White
Magus of the Disk x1
Leonin Abunas x2
ENCHANTMENTS-
White
Seal of Cleansing x1
Spirit Link x1
SORCERIES-
White
Golden Wish x1
Ritual of Restoration x1
Roar of Reclamation x2
Blue
Fabricate x2
Red
Obliterate x1
Gold
Invoke the Firemind x1
INSTANTS
White
Disenchant x1
Beacon of Immortality x2
Angel's Grace x1
Ethereal Haze x4
Blue
Gifts Ungiven x1
Counterspell x2
Red
Feedback Bolt x2
ARTIFACTS
Mycosynth Lattice x1
Ur-Golem's Eye x2
Loxodon Warhammer x1
Isochron Scepter x3
Darksteel Forge x1
Grinding Station x1
Feldon's Cane x2
Vedalken Orrery x1
Panoptic Mirror x1
Clock of Omens x1
Pariah's Shield x1
Blasting Station x1

SIDEDECK:
Krak Clan Ironworks x2
Blaze X2
Erayo, Soratomi Ascendant x1
Rule of Law x1
Urza's Armor x3
Echoing Ruin x3
Hivestone x1
Honden of Cleansing Fire x2


don't knock it, It works in casual, and does decently at conventions.

Okay, in general, you have too many single copies of cards. Vhati il-dal seems kind of meaningless. Some of your cards aren't Type 2 Legal, and a few don't really help your plan.

-2 Mortipede
-1 Vhati il-dal
-1 Garza's Assassin
-1 Deepfire Elemental
-1 Ashen Ghoul (Not Type 2 Legal)
-2 Balduvian Dead (Not T2)
-1 Orcish Healer (Not T2)
-1 Sisters of Stone Death
-2 Grim Harvest

+4 Scorched Rusalka
+1 Gutless Ghoul
+4 Plagued Rusalka
+1 Sek'kuar, Deathkeeper
+2 Stalking Vengeance

As well as giving you a stronger early game, where many of your creatures can be sacrificed to stop oncoming attacks, chump block and then sac for damage, or other multi-purpose effects, the addition of Stalking vengeance deepens your overall strategy, as each creature sacrificed is a burn spell wherever you need it.