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SilverDrgnbane

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:52 am


Hi, I've been a fencer for a few months now, using the foil. I've been doing okay, but I know I could do better. I'm pretty reserved when I bout, mostly because I'm worried about an old shoulder injury of mine. I'm also pretty short, which I have found has it's advantages! biggrin
Any tips? All comments are apprieciated.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:24 pm


Sure. Really depends on what you want to do, but i like speed and dexterity over brute strength. Strength wins if you are big enough. I like to work on stamina, so i last longer too. Always go for mind games, i like to agrivate my victoms and make them swing wildly then thrust into chest. But it really depends on your style. Make em unable to fight too, hit wrists if you can. Always learn two things first. One, how to dodge, two, how to parry.

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SilverDrgnbane

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:25 pm


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Sure. Really depends on what you want to do, but i like speed and dexterity over brute strength. Strength wins if you are big enough. I like to work on stamina, so i last longer too. Always go for mind games, i like to agrivate my victoms and make them swing wildly then thrust into chest. But it really depends on your style. Make em unable to fight too, hit wrists if you can. Always learn two things first. One, how to dodge, two, how to parry.

Thanks! Most of the fencers in my club are bigger and stronger than me, so I just try to keep my distance until they screw up! Somethime I parry too much though. I get used to chasing the blade then suddenly WHAM! There's one guy who swings wide on purpose, trying to beat the blade. It's fun to just disengage around him!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:38 pm


Wrist shots Thatwolfguy? What a way to fight dirty. biggrin

Anyways, one of my favorite parries that seems to have gotten me relatively far, is the circle parry 6. Since you say you've barely started, I doubt you've been taught it, but it still might be something you would want to look into learning. Of course, using it is going to require a bit of insight on predicting when people may just follow your parry around, but a quick additional circle parry usually does the trick on knocking possible touches' away from your body, or at the very least into your arm which is still deemed off-target for foil.

Also, most of the successful women foilist in my club were also generally aggressive. Nothing throws off a man's psyche like fighting a woman whom acts like she is literally out for blood. xd (Ohh and the constant bombardment of attacks.. which only could be described as in-fighting shanking..)

Though, as Thatwolfguy has already said, it does depend on what type of fencer you really want to be. (Offensive, Defensive, ect).

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SilverDrgnbane

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:21 am


Kyrenx
Wrist shots Thatwolfguy? What a way to fight dirty. biggrin

Anyways, one of my favorite parries that seems to have gotten me relatively far, is the circle parry 6. Since you say you've barely started, I doubt you've been taught it, but it still might be something you would want to look into learning. Of course, using it is going to require a bit of insight on predicting when people may just follow your parry around, but a quick additional circle parry usually does the trick on knocking possible touches' away from your body, or at the very least into your arm which is still deemed off-target for foil.

Also, most of the successful women foilist in my club were also generally aggressive. Nothing throws off a man's psyche like fighting a woman whom acts like she is literally out for blood. xd (Ohh and the constant bombardment of attacks.. which only could be described as in-fighting shanking..)

Though, as Thatwolfguy has already said, it does depend on what type of fencer you really want to be. (Offensive, Defensive, ect).

Yeah, I know about the cirlce parry 6. I haven't "barely" started; I've been fencing since January. I'll try the double parry though, it sounds effective.
I know what you mean about aggressive women fencers. Most of the girls in my club are VERY aggressive. I'm not extremely aggressive, it depends on my mood. Usually I'm more defensive. I also try to avoid infighting since it screws up my shoulder and makes in pop out of joint! crying
Thanks for the tips, I'll try them this afternoon. I have a club meeting! biggrin
Wish me luck!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:48 am


Best of luck to you! And if you need help with anything else, just feel free to ask. biggrin

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:43 pm


definately- start slow! practise your moves at home before and after training to help retain them and consistancy is the key!!! biggrin
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:44 am


2 elements that are best to work on when you begin are point control and footwork. find a point on the wall and just keep hitting it. then do it while lunging. find some more points and do combinations then try to speed it up. point control is extremely important. and as i said, footwork. just do footwork excersizes. always remember that distance alone can win a fight. all you need is the stop hit if they miss. dont be afraid you cross your legs when retreating. its much faster than an en guarde retreat. once youve got these two things nailed, then work on everything else.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:13 am


you surely need to build up your speed. since your reach is limited, especially with your shoulder injury, you should really amp up your footwork. build it up. do a hundred of each legwork especially before you end your practice. also, time your parry. practice it with someone so you'll know better when it's a feint or when it's real. and once you've parried, as much as possible take control. don't retreat after parrying.. hehe
what i used to do with opponents i disliked was that i would try to catch their timing. then when i do get it, i just piss them off by countering all their moves (this'll get your coached pissed though... but my opponents were messed up).. I once beat a guy in a 15 round match using only counter attacks. no parry's, no attacks, just counters. my coach got mad at me but his coach didn't even bother talking to him. imagine losing to someone who only used a counter attack. oh, and he's been fencing way longer than i have been.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:19 am


Kyrenx
Anyways, one of my favorite parries that seems to have gotten me relatively far, is the circle parry 6. Since you say you've barely started, I doubt you've been taught it, but it still might be something you would want to look into learning. Of course, using it is going to require a bit of insight on predicting when people may just follow your parry around, but a quick additional circle parry usually does the trick on knocking possible touches' away from your body, or at the very least into your arm which is still deemed off-target for foil.


yeah, that's a good advise too... ever used that for offense? if your arm's strong, it throws their blade off. it acts as a beat and a bind at the same time. if you really get your forearm strength up, it becomes really effective. you can even get to a point where you can control your opponent's blade.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:54 pm


SilverDrgnbane
Hi, I've been a fencer for a few months now, using the foil. I've been doing okay, but I know I could do better. I'm pretty reserved when I bout, mostly because I'm worried about an old shoulder injury of mine. I'm also pretty short, which I have found has it's advantages! biggrin
Any tips? All comments are apprieciated.


hmm... which shoulder? if it's the shoulder that you hold your foil with, I can't help you. If it's the shoulder that does the really weird thing behind you, just put your hand on your hip like you do if you're doing saber (my dad has the same problem)
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