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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:36 am
Your veiws upon this subject are much appriciated.
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Alright..
Personally I don't see the shame or impact on giving a child a good old spank. It gets the message across that they've done something silly and that they shouldn't do it again. When I was little, this was the case when I occassionally did something a little bit unorthodox.
However, what I do deem as a little too far, must be the unperposeful beatings and verbal abuse used for the adults/carers own anger management. Since when do you break a childs jawbone because your electrical screwdriver decided to break on you? Yes. This has been the case before, I watched it on Panorama ages ago.
One thing that I have to probably most disapprve of is the verbal, mentally-aflicting violence. Parents whom drum into their childs heads that they're different to everyone else, thata they're never going to be a normal person and that they are mentally retarded. For a six year old...so vulnerable, they'd believe it...and if they are constantly told such things...they'll believe it almost permanently and could actually become such.
Even if the abuse is mild but frequent, the child can become either very weak minded and unsocial in future, but may end up becoming that bully, that chav (sorry to seem so stereotypical) whom abuses everyone in sigt because this is how they understand how to be treated.
So, I put across these series of questions.
-Generally are you for or aganist the correction of a child's behavior by a mild physical action?
-Where do you think the parent/carer has gone too far?
-State the boundaries of where you think child abuse becomes inhumain.
-State what you believe is appropriate.
-Have you any former knowledge of your childhood and it's corrective methods?
-Have you any friends whom have undergone child abuse.
-Ever been a bystander?
((To John, ((le aristocrat)) I can do great english grammar thankyou very much. Even on Gaia!!))
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:01 am
-Generally are you for or aganist the correction of a child's behavior by a mild physical action?
Well, yes I suppose so, but I don't think I'd ever hit my own child unless he seriously pissed me off, but a child of mine would be perfect, therefore I doubt that would ever happen...
-Where do you think the parent/carer has gone too far?
Anything but a good spank is too far.
-State the boundaries of where you think child abuse becomes inhumain.
Erm... Well, what I just said i suppose...
-State what you believe is appropriate.
Ditto
-Have you any former knowledge of your childhood and it's corrective methods?
Oui, I was given a good spanking every so often, and it stopped me from doing it again. For me, it dissuaded me from doing it again.
-Have you any friends whom have undergone child abuse.
Not as far as I'm aware...
-Ever been a bystander?
Nope.
I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:04 am
Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:08 am
~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:27 am
Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:47 am
~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
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Le Aristocrat Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:18 pm
-Generally are you for or aganist the correction of a child's behavior by a mild physical action?
I recognise that in some cases it may be necessary, and I'm in support of the right to give a child mild physical punishment. However - and this is a big however - I think that a competent parent should not have to do that, and hence parents should be sent to something like training if they are driven to the use of violence.
-Where do you think the parent/carer has gone too far?
When the violence is in anger, and not a reminder to behave. That's where it has gone much too far.
-State the boundaries of where you think child abuse becomes inhumain.
Any abuse, verbal or physical, is inhumane. Light punishment is semi-acceptable, but not abuse.
-State what you believe is appropriate.
Use on a child whose behaviour is out of control, and needs correction. Only a light slap though. No bruising hits.
-Have you any former knowledge of your childhood and it's corrective methods?
I was never hit, and my parents always corrected me through talking to me. Of course, I was a good little boy! It worked well for me.
((but spanking worked well for Billy-Joel! dramallama ))
-Have you any friends whom have undergone child abuse.
No.
-Ever been a bystander?
To bullying - yes. To abuse, never.
Well done on your grammar Beth. It was quite good!
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:20 pm
Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
I was on the phone the other night, and I needed to quickly go and get my address book - so I left the phone for a moment..and whilst I'm gone.. ..my dad starts licking the phone and pants down it like a dog. So when I return my friend asks me whether I have a dog! And I was like...no, I have no dog. However I shan't have a Dad either. He's being put down on Thursday. >.<
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:31 pm
~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
I was on the phone the other night, and I needed to quickly go and get my address book - so I left the phone for a moment..and whilst I'm gone.. ..my dad starts licking the phone and pants down it like a dog. So when I return my friend asks me whether I have a dog! And I was like...no, I have no dog. However I shan't have a Dad either. He's being put down on Thursday. >.< Very embarrasing... At least father doesn't do that!
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:42 pm
-Generally are you for or aganist the correction of a child's behavior by a mild physical action?
I'm okay with very mild physical punishments if they're deemed necessary, but they should not hurt the child to the point of leaving bruises...sometimes a few light slaps are enough to get the message across. That said, I agree with Le Aristocrat, a good parent shouldn't need to resort to physical punishments though.
-Where do you think the parent/carer has gone too far?
Going beyond lecturing and spanking, I suppose...
-State the boundaries of where you think child abuse becomes inhumain.
See above.
-State what you believe is appropriate.
Lecturing and making the child see reason is the best course, IMO.
-Have you any former knowledge of your childhood and it's corrective methods?
I was never given any physical punishments, although I was scolded soundly when I did something wrong. ^^;
-Have you any friends whom have undergone child abuse.
Not as far as I know.
-Ever been a bystander?
No.
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:37 pm
I am against any kind of physical punishment. A child hits another child so you hit them. What? How does this make sense? If you hit someone on the street they have every right to report it to the police. Anyway one of the two things may happen:
-The child will hit you back. Then what? Do you just hit harder and harder? No.
-The child will become immune to it and you cant hit harder each time because then it will be abuse.
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:43 pm
~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela I was going to watch that program too, but I never quite got round to it. I don't see why people do that to their own children, I mean, a block of wood? That is just disgusting, mentally insane I'd say. Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
I was on the phone the other night, and I needed to quickly go and get my address book - so I left the phone for a moment..and whilst I'm gone.. ..my dad starts licking the phone and pants down it like a dog. So when I return my friend asks me whether I have a dog! And I was like...no, I have no dog. However I shan't have a Dad either. He's being put down on Thursday. >.< Who asked if you had a dog? Do you remember when you were shopping and your dad phoned and told you to go meet him and he was really drunk?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:29 am
~Rainbow Coloured Starz~ ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
I was on the phone the other night, and I needed to quickly go and get my address book - so I left the phone for a moment..and whilst I'm gone.. ..my dad starts licking the phone and pants down it like a dog. So when I return my friend asks me whether I have a dog! And I was like...no, I have no dog. However I shan't have a Dad either. He's being put down on Thursday. >.< Who asked if you had a dog? Do you remember when you were shopping and your dad phoned and told you to go meet him and he was really drunk?
~As for that time with my dad, well..yeah...he phoned me asking me if I had enough money and asking if he could pay for my lunch and told me to go to the 'vinters parrot' pub to go see him. So we went and he dragged me in there, hugged me and showed me to all of his friends. What a tard. Honestly. rolleyes
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:31 am
~Pure~Persian~ ~Rainbow Coloured Starz~ ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela ~Pure~Persian~ Emmanuela Exactly! Parents who do that need to go to parenting school, either that or be treated for mental illness, or anger management or something. How they get away with it, it's shocking.
I hate the adverts they show on television about that. I am so glad and i feel so lucky to have nice parents. I wish I could share them with everybody - although I think my dad may be the most embrassing man on the planet, he's so kind. *big love for him*What, the NSPCC adverts? I usually try to avoid those, I mean, I know that sounds really bad but I half the time I expect most of the money goes to administration and hardly any for the children. If someone turned up at my door, with a registered charity box then of course I'd give a far amount (I gave £35 to charity the other day... I'm such a push over) but I just don't like the tv ads. Hah, yes my dad can be fairly embarrasing, especially if he's drunk a bit too much. It was awful, at this new years eve party we went to, I was dancing with my friends in the corner and then he was the only adult to start dancing, and he knew all the words to the song as well...
I was on the phone the other night, and I needed to quickly go and get my address book - so I left the phone for a moment..and whilst I'm gone.. ..my dad starts licking the phone and pants down it like a dog. So when I return my friend asks me whether I have a dog! And I was like...no, I have no dog. However I shan't have a Dad either. He's being put down on Thursday. >.< Who asked if you had a dog? Do you remember when you were shopping and your dad phoned and told you to go meet him and he was really drunk?
~As for that time with my dad, well..yeah...he phoned me asking me if I had enough money and asking if he could pay for my lunch and told me to go to the 'vinters parrot' pub to go see him. So we went and he dragged me in there, hugged me and showed me to all of his friends. What a tard. Honestly. rolleyes Did Vicki seroiusly think you'd got a dog when you hate them so much? Thanks your father you're talking about. What happened to respecting your elders? Hmm? Oh dear.. we're getting a bit off topic. Does anyone else have any views on child abuse?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:03 am
-Generally are you for or aganist the correction of a child's behavior by a mild physical action?
Clip round the earhole, yes. Even though i was never smacked or clipped by my parents, i think that very small doses cant be harmful. My father always says to me he would have been clipeed round the ear'ole for anything bad he had ever done!
btw- my parents are not against slapping, its just i was a very good kid! xp
-Where do you think the parent/carer has gone too far?
When the decide to punch the kid in the face, about then......
-State the boundaries of where you think child abuse becomes inhumain.
The point when the child is in actual phyiscal pain
-State what you believe is appropriate.
As stated above, a clip round the ear'ole!
-Have you any former knowledge of your childhood and it's corrective methods?
As i said, i was a good child. But i suppose most corrective stuff for me is happening now, with the whole " ALLOWED OUT ONCE A WEEK!!!! ONLY ONCE!!!" thing.....
-Have you any friends whom have undergone child abuse.
Afraid not, though if James turner mucks about, Ussualy it will be my boot up his arse.
-Ever been a bystander?
Nope, cant say i have
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