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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:25 pm


New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:48 pm


God Saved Me And You
New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em


No gays or bi's that are open you mean. and for the record the exclusion of someone based on sexuality is agaisnt the charter of human rights and freedoms. besides you never hear them saying "no hetero's" do you?

Gaylord Mule 3


SoulAsylum1119

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:42 pm


I have... Havn't you seen the puzzles lately? Dude that's everywhere, maybe it's just my imagination though...
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:33 pm


Lazarus The Resurected
God Saved Me And You
New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em


No gays or bi's that are open you mean. and for the record the exclusion of someone based on sexuality is agaisnt the charter of human rights and freedoms. besides you never hear them saying "no hetero's" do you?
Human right don't matter it's all about what GOD wants.

Sir BlackHeart


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:29 pm


God Saved Me And You
New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em


Mmm, taste the Christian love and tolerance. rolleyes
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:31 pm


NewFoundLight
Lazarus The Resurected
God Saved Me And You
New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em


No gays or bi's that are open you mean. and for the record the exclusion of someone based on sexuality is agaisnt the charter of human rights and freedoms. besides you never hear them saying "no hetero's" do you?
Human right don't matter it's all about what GOD wants.


God wants homosexuals and bisexuals to be excluded from the Christian faith based on the whims of his "followers"?

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


Gaylord Mule 3

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:29 am


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
Lazarus The Resurected
God Saved Me And You
New Christian guild people . . . .

My new guild is called " HE DIED FOR US "

"HE DIED FOR US " is a guild for Christian and non-Christian teens . . . .

Please, if you are a Christian check us out we take prayer requests and love to chat.


P.S. And please no Gays or Bi's, I don't dispise them I just don't like Em


No gays or bi's that are open you mean. and for the record the exclusion of someone based on sexuality is agaisnt the charter of human rights and freedoms. besides you never hear them saying "no hetero's" do you?
Human right don't matter it's all about what GOD wants.


God wants homosexuals and bisexuals to be excluded from the Christian faith based on the whims of his "followers"?

and yet calls homosexuals and bisexuals to him?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:31 am


Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.

tfklovr


Gaylord Mule 3

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:31 pm


tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


unless you realy want your brain to explode form all the things Kuroi (and to a lesser extent myself) can pump into it that would contradict what you just said i would recomend just sitting and being quiet.

umm real quick question? "God gave them over to shamefull lusts" umm does that actually say that God made them that way? it seems it to me. well, i guess that's more support for my side of the argument.

i have a huge problem with heterosexuals. well not all of them i suppose, but definitely the ones who look down on me for who i am.

and yes the term "whim" applies perfectly here. becuase the verse you gave has absolutely nothing to do with being allowed to exclude ahomosexual from gathering at the place of worship to share in the fellowship of the Lord with his or her brothers and sisters. especially since that is the only "sin" mentionned for exclusion.

even better it's a guild for christian and non-christian teens. this means that a freakin satanist can get in but not a f**. how the ******** is that right in any way shape or form.
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:26 pm


tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


Did you not see the "BECAUSE OF THIS" in verse 26? Romans 1:18-32 talks about IDOLATRY, and if you took 26-27 IN CONTEXT, you'd know that.

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:59 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


Did you not see the "BECAUSE OF THIS" in verse 26? Romans 1:18-32 talks about IDOLATRY, and if you took 26-27 IN CONTEXT, you'd know that.


This more in context:

1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. His eternal power also and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

1:21. Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God or given thanks: but became vain in their thoughts. And their foolish heart was darkened.

1:22. For, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

1:23. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts and of creeping things.

1:24. Wherefore, God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness: to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

1:25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26. For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.

1:27. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

1:28. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient.

1:29. Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness: full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity: whisperers,

1:30. Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31. Foolish, dissolute: without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

1:32. Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:21 pm


ryokomayuka
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


Did you not see the "BECAUSE OF THIS" in verse 26? Romans 1:18-32 talks about IDOLATRY, and if you took 26-27 IN CONTEXT, you'd know that.


This more in context:

1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. His eternal power also and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

1:21. Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God or given thanks: but became vain in their thoughts. And their foolish heart was darkened.

1:22. For, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

1:23. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts and of creeping things.

1:24. Wherefore, God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness: to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

1:25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26. For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.

1:27. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

1:28. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient.

1:29. Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness: full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity: whisperers,

1:30. Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31. Foolish, dissolute: without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

1:32. Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.


Thank you. Verse 25 speaks of giving up the Creator for a lie, which caused God to give them up to shameful LUSTS. That is the other thing Romans 1:18-32 speaks against. LUST. These people are just doing whatever their bodies tell them. They have no affection, no fidelity, no love; they are full of pride, malice, wickedness, deceit, foolishness, disobedience. They have lost all morals and have sunk to the level of animals, completely ignoring God's will for them, and for THIS they are cut off from God. Not gay sex.

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


SoulAsylum1119

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:35 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
ryokomayuka
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


Did you not see the "BECAUSE OF THIS" in verse 26? Romans 1:18-32 talks about IDOLATRY, and if you took 26-27 IN CONTEXT, you'd know that.


This more in context:

1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. His eternal power also and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

1:21. Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God or given thanks: but became vain in their thoughts. And their foolish heart was darkened.

1:22. For, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

1:23. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts and of creeping things.

1:24. Wherefore, God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness: to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

1:25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26. For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.

1:27. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

1:28. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient.

1:29. Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness: full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity: whisperers,

1:30. Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31. Foolish, dissolute: without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

1:32. Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.


Thank you. Verse 25 speaks of giving up the Creator for a lie, which caused God to give them up to shameful LUSTS. That is the other thing Romans 1:18-32 speaks against. LUST. These people are just doing whatever their bodies tell them. They have no affection, no fidelity, no love; they are full of pride, malice, wickedness, deceit, foolishness, disobedience. They have lost all morals and have sunk to the level of animals, completely ignoring God's will for them, and for THIS they are cut off from God. Not gay sex.

Actually, it may just be me, but if you look it says 'who' as the subject, and if you look above in 24 it's 'them' as the carried subect, them being the people, so when you take out pronouns and such to make it stand alone it would be:

the poeple changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather then God, who is blessed forever Amen.

That may just be my imagination though...
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:00 pm


Love_to_live
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
ryokomayuka
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
tfklovr
Whims?? Try fact from the Bible! Go read what I wrote in the other thread. Nah I'll post it here. This is what I just posted:

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God game them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR PERVERSION.

He doesn't want bis or gays in his thread because they are living in sin maybe? Perhaps it's not showing Christian love, but he has the same right to do that as you have the same right to be a homosexual. No one has a problem with heterosexuals because that is what God created us to be.


Did you not see the "BECAUSE OF THIS" in verse 26? Romans 1:18-32 talks about IDOLATRY, and if you took 26-27 IN CONTEXT, you'd know that.


This more in context:

1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. His eternal power also and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

1:21. Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God or given thanks: but became vain in their thoughts. And their foolish heart was darkened.

1:22. For, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

1:23. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts and of creeping things.

1:24. Wherefore, God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness: to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

1:25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26. For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.

1:27. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

1:28. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient.

1:29. Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness: full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity: whisperers,

1:30. Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31. Foolish, dissolute: without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

1:32. Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.


Thank you. Verse 25 speaks of giving up the Creator for a lie, which caused God to give them up to shameful LUSTS. That is the other thing Romans 1:18-32 speaks against. LUST. These people are just doing whatever their bodies tell them. They have no affection, no fidelity, no love; they are full of pride, malice, wickedness, deceit, foolishness, disobedience. They have lost all morals and have sunk to the level of animals, completely ignoring God's will for them, and for THIS they are cut off from God. Not gay sex.

Actually, it may just be me, but if you look it says 'who' as the subject, and if you look above in 24 it's 'them' as the carried subect, them being the people, so when you take out pronouns and such to make it stand alone it would be:

the poeple changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather then God, who is blessed forever Amen.

That may just be my imagination though...


NIV says "25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen." This brings the "creature" reference to mean idols. Other than that, you're exactly right and that's what I meant.

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:47 am


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