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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:54 pm
I am a 17 year old male, and have been saved before, but soon after getting saved I began to live my own life, once again, but mistake. I wanted to do what was right, but the sin was too powerful within me, so I failed. Yesterday I was listening to an audio tape, by a Christain author, and the changed somethig wiitthin me. I prayed that God would change me and save me once again. Later that day I stumbled across Hebrews 4: 4-8, which deeply disturbed me. I want more than anything to be with God, but after reading this verses I felt that I could posssibly be damned to hell, regardlesss of my actions. Am I misreading the verse, or am I really doomed? Can God really call a person to him that he will not accept?
Note: This is one of the most important things in my life, so if you do not have the wisdom/ maturity to answer, please do NOT!!! Thank you!
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:26 am
GameDude2008 I am a 17 year old male, and have been saved before, but soon after getting saved I began to live my own life, once again, but mistake. I wanted to do what was right, but the sin was too powerful within me, so I failed. Yesterday I was listening to an audio tape, by a Christain author, and the changed somethig wiitthin me. I prayed that God would change me and save me once again. Later that day I stumbled across Hebrews 4: 4-8, which deeply disturbed me. I want more than anything to be with God, but after reading this verses I felt that I could posssibly be damned to hell, regardlesss of my actions. Am I misreading the verse, or am I really doomed? Can God really call a person to him that he will not accept? Note: This is one of the most important things in my life, so if you do not have the wisdom/ maturity to answer, please do NOT!!! Thank you! Hello?
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:37 pm
It seems that even though you did get off-track, you still came back to God asking for forgiveness and recommitment. Because of this, you are his again. You are not doomed. Hebrews 4:16 NIV Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:21 pm
Hebrews 4:16 NIV Wrote:
Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Oh , you poor dear. Did you think that because you did not come into God's presence with a head held high that you are not saved? This is simply not true in fact let me tell you something, in my personal opinion if you have not entered God's presence scared spit less at least once then you are not saved, as that act demonstrates that you were not truly repentant. You were entering God's holy of holy's covered with sin, it's only natural to feel lowly and filled with guilt (as that's how it should be.)
It is actually far from your original interpretation of the verse, let's read this verse in context shall we?
14Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens,[e] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.
16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
What the author is trying to convey, is that we should be confident in the faith of the cross, our trust never wavering, since Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and had paid our atonements once and for all. That he was not some alien that had never understood the difficulties we suffer, He himself was tempted many times as a man, however he never gave in. And this is how we know that our faith is secure, because a sinless man (also God) is now the mediator between God's sinless realm and our sinful depravity.
Did this help clear things up a bit?
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:46 pm
I'm sorry you felt that because at one point in your life, maybe two, maybe more, you walked away from God, or turned your back on him tha tyou were cursed to hell. I'ts simply not true.
God never left you no matter what you do. All people go astray at some point. How far you wander may vary, but God is always searching for you. Keep in mind the parable of the wandering sheep. The sheep was a part of the sheperds flock (a christian following christ) and he wandered away (turened from God, went astray), and yet, God didn't damn him to hell, he followed his sheep, searching until he had found him, and brought him home.
As well as the story of the prodigul son. In both situations people if God went astray. ANd God uurged them to come back, and celebrated when they did.
Don't you think for even a second that when you turn back to God asking forgivness for what you've done, and following once again, that he will turn you away. O nthe contrary. The second you do this, heaven will rejoice at the return of God's child.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:32 pm
beakerkatt Hebrews 4:16 NIV Wrote: Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. Oh , you poor dear. Did you think that because you did not come into God's presence with a head held high that you are not saved? This is simply not true in fact let me tell you something, in my personal opinion if you have not entered God's presence scared spit less at least once then you are not saved, as that act demonstrates that you were not truly repentant. You were entering God's holy of holy's covered with sin, it's only natural to feel lowly and filled with guilt (as that's how it should be.) It is actually far from your original interpretation of the verse, let's read this verse in context shall we? 14Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens,[e] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. 16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. What the author is trying to convey, is that we should be confident in the faith of the cross, our trust never wavering, since Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and had paid our atonements once and for all. That he was not some alien that had never understood the difficulties we suffer, He himself was tempted many times as a man, however he never gave in. And this is how we know that our faith is secure, because a sinless man (also God) is now the mediator between God's sinless realm and our sinful depravity. Did this help clear things up a bit? I sent you a pm about 4 months agao and you did not respond yet you have time to respond to this!>?!!?!?!?! evil evil evil not that it's wrong to respond to this, but where's my responce? crying
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