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-epic!insomnia-
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:12 pm



The Official Tobias Ragg Discussion Thread


Come on, now, we all think he's adorable. Welcome to the official Toby discussion thread! Where you can fulfill all your Toby-discussing needs. You have lots of them, we're sure.

Rules:
Guild rules + TOS are law.
No Toby-bashing. Now why would you go and do that?

Guidelines for posting:
Opinion on character. (Insomnia's getting lazy now.)
Best/worst Toby.
How Toby is a major part of the revival.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:06 am


What constitutes a good Toby?
I've asked myself this question throughout my scrutinization of the original 1979 Recording as well as the Revival recording. In general, all three portrayals follow the same Toby-blueprint. For example, both actors kept him child-like and submissive. However, both Ken Jennings and Manoel Felciano added a little something extra to the part. Jennings, I feel was less aware of the goings-on in Lovett's bakehouse but was more concerned for "his mum's" safety and had more hatred for Mr. Todd. Feliciano, I feel, was a little more intune with the inner workings of the business. It seems like when he's singing "Not While I'm Around" that he's trying to first hint to Mrs. Lovett what he feels and his suspicions before just outright expressing them. Feliciano!Toby is a little more clever than is Jennings!Toby but during the final scene, I feel like that completely changes.
In Toby's reappearence in the bake house, each actor takes his Toby in a different direction. Jennings!Toby, though clearly insane, seems to be the same brand of madness that Sweeney Todd himself was influenced by. The way in which he growls, "Mr. Todd!" is enough for me to say that he was aware of his actions in slitting the barber's throat and felt that it was the right thing to do to make good on his promise to Mrs. Lovett. Feliciano!Toby, to me, seems more just outwardly insane. His mind was overwhelmed by being locked up and witnessing murder and thus, he became completely insane. He no longer saw any reason for his doing and I think that if there were anybody else alive in that bakehouse, he would've killed them too.
In conclusion, I feel that each actor brought a different side to Toby and that just proves to me the complex inner-workings of this character and the many ways in which he could be interpretted.

~del

Delacroix_Ghost


Gelasius

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:13 pm


It would be interesting if Toby Ragg became the Artful Dodger. Yeah, I know two different stories by two different authors, but think about it. He's stayed with Mrs. Lovett and Sweeney Todd, he might run into Fagin and become his right hand man. He helps others get shelter and find a life of crime. But at least they get room and board. Is there a place for RP around here?
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