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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:59 pm


This is a slightly silly topic because I'm in a silly mood. Its really just all about posting what you don't believe. You can write a list or you can say what you don't believe in an why. Either is cool. It's just that we spend a lot of time talking about believing in this or that, but you know, I'm always curious in knowing what people dis-believe in too. It doesn't have to be pagan specific, it can be anything you don't believe in, are skeptical of or highly doubt.

Beofore I start this disbelief party though let me throw out a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. If someone doesn't believe in something you do believe in, try not to be offended or to flame that person. We aren't here to agrue about what we do or don't believe and if you want to do that, by all means make your own thread dedicated to this topic. This one is to probe into disbelief though.

2. Try not to be insulting in what you do and don't believe in. You know saying that X is stupid and what not. A simple I don't believe suffices or giving out reasons and not just slamming whatever it is.

3. I will lock this topic if it gets to edgey and if I think people are getting too insulting I will pm you and ask for you to edit your post blah blah all that good stuff that no one really wants to happen.

Ok, so I don't believe that Jesus Christ existed. I mean he could of, but the more that I read the more I question his existance.

I don't think that people can levitate using mental aiblities.

I don't think people can bend spoons with their minds.

I don't think dragons physically exist.

I don't think dragons on the astral planes are sweet and gentle creatures, though I'm not opposed to thought form dragons behaving in such a manner.

I don't believe in Sylvia Brown.

I don't believe in starseeds, indigos, and am highly doubtful of other kin.

I don't think faeries are nice friendly creatures and I don't think that they have ever physically existed in this plane.

I don't believe that Charmed, The Wicker Man, The Craft or any other pagan movie or show attempts to portray the pagan scene and I don't believe these works of fiction are anything to get worked up about.

I don't believe in a lot of other stuff, but I think that's it for now.
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:10 pm


i dont believe in crhistianity. or christians and tyhir wqy.
i dont beliee this because: my experience christians have always been completely self absorbed and corrupting. especially with their 'forgive,forget' rule. not to mention hypocrites. i say hypocrites because they do not folow their own belief system. as per my experience.

my other thing i have problem believing in.

is magic and i am having problems with t due t the fact that so many people claim to do this and that, and cannot do it. along with that there are soo many snobs and people who need to learn respect and acceptance.e specially of other people. i know im not perfect but i do what i can to accept and respect people.

and the last thign im skeptical about: people- most people seem to be kind and such but you know. the kind oens i ahve met are so devious and such that I have grown to hate people. women especially- but thats for a eprsonal reason. and as for guys well, id jsut as soon kill a fool without thinking as lok at him. but i still put my anger aside until omeome gives me reason to open my hate towards them

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:33 pm


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Ok, so I don't believe that Jesus Christ existed. I mean he could of, but the more that I read the more I question his existance.

I don't think that people can levitate using mental aiblities.

I don't think people can bend spoons with their minds.

I don't think dragons physically exist.

I don't think dragons on the astral planes are sweet and gentle creatures, though I'm not opposed to thought form dragons behaving in such a manner.

I don't believe in Sylvia Brown.

I don't believe in starseeds, indigos, and am highly doubtful of other kin.

I don't think faeries are nice friendly creatures and I don't think that they have ever physically existed in this plane.

I don't believe that Charmed, The Wicker Man, The Craft or any other pagan movie or show attempts to portray the pagan scene and I don't believe these works of fiction are anything to get worked up about.

I don't believe in a lot of other stuff, but I think that's it for now.


I don't believe in Jesus Christ or just one God either. Or that even if they are trying to describe the top notch god (in my opinon Zeus, and the other top notches of each culture) they do a horrible job.

I do know people can leviate THINGS if they really try and have been gifted with the power and ability. Not just anyone can randomly go out and try it. I do know I could, and stil lcan levitate objects, but no, not myself. I'm sure if possibly could be done, but that would take much practice, and many abilities.

I doubt someone can randomly bend a spoon with there mind. That would take reshaping the object, and more power then levitating yourself.

I think there are people with the spirits of dragons. So physically, no I don't think they exist. But only spiritually.

LMAO Dragons, sweet and gentle? Bullshit. They're are nice ones, but they only become that way (as far as I know do to my babies, Chara and Catrena) by you saving there lives. They don't like being bound.

Who is Sylvia Brown?

I believe in other kin, highly.

Faes can be...helpful. But normally for a price. However all are different. And no, I've only seen them in a spiritual type of essence, so I don't think they are physically here on earth.

I don't believe in any of those other things either. I also think it's sad that they make it seem all natural and special. The Craft, I would have to say is the closest out of the 3 though, (never seen the Wicker Man, and I personally Love Piper from Charmed)
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:41 pm


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Who is Sylvia Brown?

A famous "psychic" I have no problems with psychics persay but I do have problems with Sylvia Brown.

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Faes can be...helpful. But normally for a price. However all are different. And no, I've only seen them in a spiritual type of essence, so I don't think they are physically here on earth.


Helpful sure, why not, but they aren't all flowers and sunshine and they can also be real monsters too.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:21 pm


I don't believe that any one religion or path is the "right path".

I don't believe in following dogma.

I don't believe in impossibility.

I don't believe that physical existence is where we end.

I don't believe that everyone claiming to be an otherkin actually is.

I don't believe that everyone claiming to astral project actually does.

I don't believe a lot of pagans/occultist types know how to stay objective.

I don't believe that energy as we know it is the end-all of ability or power.

I don't believe a lot of the stuff I see on the news.


Also, I LOL at you not believing in Sylvia Brown, although I think you mean you don't believe she's actually psychic, as opposed to not believing she is actually existent. blaugh
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:39 pm


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I don't believe a lot of pagans/occultist types know how to stay objective.


Agreed.

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I don't believe a lot of the stuff I see on the news. [/qupte]

Agreed again.


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Also, I LOL at you not believing in Sylvia Brown, although I think you mean you don't believe she's actually psychic, as opposed to not believing she is actually existent. blaugh


I lol'ed at my own mistake now that I've seen it. Unfortunately I can't disbelieve in Brown's existance too much to suggest she does. Her psychic prowess however, seems to be easily disbelieved.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:10 pm


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I don't believe a lot of pagans/occultist types know how to stay objective.


Speaking of which, I don't believe in objectivity.

Or truth, reality, mental illness, morality, good and evil, and the legitimacy of most the people found in these guilds.
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:49 pm


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I don't believe a lot of pagans/occultist types know how to stay objective.


Speaking of which, I don't believe in objectivity.

Or truth, reality, mental illness, morality, good and evil, and the legitimacy of most the people found in these guilds.


I sort of meant that they always want to attribute something to some mythical faeries or astral influence when it was probably just the wind.

I tend to agree with everything else though.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:15 pm


blindfaith^_^
This is a slightly silly topic because I'm in a silly mood. Its really just all about posting what you don't believe. You can write a list or you can say what you don't believe in an why. Either is cool. It's just that we spend a lot of time talking about believing in this or that, but you know, I'm always curious in knowing what people dis-believe in too. It doesn't have to be pagan specific, it can be anything you don't believe in, are skeptical of or highly doubt.

Beofore I start this disbelief party though let me throw out a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. If someone doesn't believe in something you do believe in, try not to be offended or to flame that person. We aren't here to agrue about what we do or don't believe and if you want to do that, by all means make your own thread dedicated to this topic. This one is to probe into disbelief though.

2. Try not to be insulting in what you do and don't believe in. You know saying that X is stupid and what not. A simple I don't believe suffices or giving out reasons and not just slamming whatever it is.

3. I will lock this topic if it gets to edgey and if I think people are getting too insulting I will pm you and ask for you to edit your post blah blah all that good stuff that no one really wants to happen.

Ok, so I don't believe that Jesus Christ existed. I mean he could of, but the more that I read the more I question his existance.

I don't think that people can levitate using mental aiblities.

I don't think people can bend spoons with their minds.

I don't think dragons physically exist.

I don't think dragons on the astral planes are sweet and gentle creatures, though I'm not opposed to thought form dragons behaving in such a manner.

I don't believe in Sylvia Brown.

I don't believe in starseeds, indigos, and am highly doubtful of other kin.

I don't think faeries are nice friendly creatures and I don't think that they have ever physically existed in this plane.

I don't believe that Charmed, The Wicker Man, The Craft or any other pagan movie or show attempts to portray the pagan scene and I don't believe these works of fiction are anything to get worked up about.

I don't believe in a lot of other stuff, but I think that's it for now.


I'm not a Christian and I don't believe Jesus was a mesaiah but there really isn't any disputing that he exsisted. Its a historically and scientifically proven fact. If you are going to make that argument that you don't believe he existed than you can make the arguement that you don't believe Queen Elizabeth I existed or Confucious or any other historical figure. Heck you can't even say that your great-great-great- grandparents exsisted
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:18 pm


Sephiroth Incarcina Night
i dont believe in crhistianity. or christians and tyhir wqy.
i dont beliee this because: my experience christians have always been completely self absorbed and corrupting. especially with their 'forgive,forget' rule. not to mention hypocrites. i say hypocrites because they do not folow their own belief system. as per my experience.

my other thing i have problem believing in.

is magic and i am having problems with t due t the fact that so many people claim to do this and that, and cannot do it. along with that there are soo many snobs and people who need to learn respect and acceptance.e specially of other people. i know im not perfect but i do what i can to accept and respect people.

and the last thign im skeptical about: people- most people seem to be kind and such but you know. the kind oens i ahve met are so devious and such that I have grown to hate people. women especially- but thats for a eprsonal reason. and as for guys well, id jsut as soon kill a fool without thinking as lok at him. but i still put my anger aside until omeome gives me reason to open my hate towards them


Its not so much believeing as agreeing with. I don't agree with Christian ideals either but saying you don't believe in Christianity makes no sense. There is no question as to the exisitance of Christianity. I thinky ou meant you don't agree with Chrisitianity.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:18 pm


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I'm not a Christian and I don't believe Jesus was a mesaiah but there really isn't any disputing that he exsisted. Its a historically and scientifically proven fact. If you are going to make that argument that you don't believe he existed than you can make the arguement that you don't believe Queen Elizabeth I existed or Confucious or any other historical figure. Heck you can't even say that your great-great-great- grandparents exsisted


Really and what documentation are you refering to? I know that Tactuis refers to a mispelled possible Christ, but we don't hear anything about him other than Pilate killed him. Besides there are many religious stories similar to those of the bible so it woul be easy for a person to create him.

Ressurection has reminded me that I don't believe in good or evil.

I don't believe in fate.
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:51 pm


well, humm. . lets see

I dont beleive that Christianity is the one right way.

I dont beleive that all demons or darker energy beings are "evil"

I dont beleive everyone's claims, but I dont try to start a fight over it and just try to see if they are for real or not by talking to them. .

there are a lot of things I dont beleive, but if I am not completely sure or still have some doubt I just leave it in the not sure catagory. . people are often to quick to just toss something that is unsure into the not true catagory, which caused a lot of problems. .

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:09 pm


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I don't believe a lot of pagans/occultist types know how to stay objective.


Speaking of which, I don't believe in objectivity.

Or truth, reality, mental illness, morality, good and evil, and the legitimacy of most the people found in these guilds.


What do you believe in then? What do you mean by reality?

I don't belive in absolute Fate or Destiny either, I think that there is a goal that the Gods have set up for every single person and it's up to them to either reach it or not.

I don't believe that Jesus was the son of ANY god, I think that perhaps he was insane.
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:43 pm


Everyone always hatin' on the J man... xd

I don't believe Jesus was the literal son of God; I believe he was an ascended master like Siddhartha Gautama and possibly Thoth (that one depending on how you view things, I won't elaborate here).


I don't believe any path is the "right path" but that everyone has their own path.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:59 am


i dont believe that anyone man should decide on how to run a country (cough) bush (cough)
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