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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:41 am
REVELATION 1:2 1-4 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;These things says He who holds the seven stars in His Right Hand,Who walk in the midst of the seven golden candle sticks 2 I know your works,And your labor, and your patience, and how you cannot bear them which are evil: and you have tried them which say they are Apostles, and are not, and have found them liars 3 And have borne, and have patience, and for My Name's sake have laboured, and have not fainted 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against you because you have left your first love.(Now in this passge from REVELATIONS Jesus christ Tells of the church of EPHESUS,and of their sin of leaving the cross"their first love"for another,and that if they don't repent they will be judged as sinners.Becuse without the cross without the blood there is no salvation) ______________________________________________________________ Now the real point I would like to address is the fact that not only has america stoped leaning of the ever-lasting arm of christ our lord,but they have started to depend on their own strength.(And by they I mean america)I have attempted to really on my own strength,and ill tell you it don't work so america pick up your cross,and follow my lord God.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:45 pm
America is a country with deep christian roots yes, however America is not to be taken for christianity, what I mean to say is that America is a land of diversity it should not be held to the doctrine of one religion although if it did Adhere to the Bible it would problably be better off, and I mean truly adhere to the Bible none of this legalism bull worth.
Now unto the second part of the what I am about to say, where did you get that interpretation for revelations ?
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:09 pm
I guess technically it does pertain to what you are saying, but some may consider it slightly off topic. either way check out this link Persecution
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:04 pm
Forgotten_Skys I guess technically it does pertain to what you are saying, but some may consider it slightly off topic. either way check out this link Persecutionto be honest I think American christians are very arrogant, and problably deserve persecution, because well soem of them are just down right crazy and not real christians, by this I mean it seems they rather preach their beliefs to people instead of just tell people because they know there's a hell and their concerned about people's well fare after this life, and then some christians seem hostile to any and everything that doesn't fit with their doctrine like other religions I.E. Wicca or buddahism. However the persecution of christians outside of the united states...well thats another story, I should also note that Americans in general tend to be arrogant, or just some americans.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:01 pm
Im just glad somone awnsered my post LOL thnx.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:38 pm
NewFoundLight Forgotten_Skys I guess technically it does pertain to what you are saying, but some may consider it slightly off topic. either way check out this link Persecutionto be honest I think American christians are very arrogant, and problably deserve persecution, because well soem of them are just down right crazy and not real christians, by this I mean it seems they rather preach their beliefs to people instead of just tell people because they know there's a hell and their concerned about people's well fare after this life, and then some christians seem hostile to any and everything that doesn't fit with their doctrine like other religions I.E. Wicca or buddahism. However the persecution of christians outside of the united states...well thats another story, I should also note that Americans in general tend to be arrogant, or just some americans. nope not so much arrogant as whiny. "oooh noooo we can't blatantly brodcast our faith to those who don't want to hear it." in other countries it's "oh s**t we're all about to be executed becasue there was a spy in our church. " how would christians feel if the local satanist family handed out the 9 satanic principles on cassette to thier kids on hallowe'en or christmas? oh and we can be good without God. besides it's against the constitution for a public school to allow any religion within it's walls isn't it?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:33 pm
Lazarus The Resurected NewFoundLight Forgotten_Skys I guess technically it does pertain to what you are saying, but some may consider it slightly off topic. either way check out this link Persecutionto be honest I think American christians are very arrogant, and problably deserve persecution, because well soem of them are just down right crazy and not real christians, by this I mean it seems they rather preach their beliefs to people instead of just tell people because they know there's a hell and their concerned about people's well fare after this life, and then some christians seem hostile to any and everything that doesn't fit with their doctrine like other religions I.E. Wicca or buddahism. However the persecution of christians outside of the united states...well thats another story, I should also note that Americans in general tend to be arrogant, or just some americans. nope not so much arrogant as whiny. "oooh noooo we can't blatantly brodcast our faith to those who don't want to hear it." in other countries it's "oh s**t we're all about to be executed becasue there was a spy in our church. " how would christians feel if the local satanist family handed out the 9 satanic principles on cassette to thier kids on hallowe'en or christmas? oh and we can be good without God. besides it's against the constitution for a public school to allow any religion within it's walls isn't it? Quote: no it's against the consitution for public/government schools to support a specific religion and claim that kids should follow it's tenents. Because although America was based off some Ideas of GOD, it does not adhere to any specific religion, however people in political positions have chosen to push one religion on the whole country or state or whatever their office is.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:07 pm
yes with all that "New Age" stuff people are believing the wrong thing about God, or not believing in Him
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:30 pm
dh4god777 yes with all that "New Age" stuff people are believing the wrong thing about God, or not believing in Him can't say I blame them you at the abundance of ignorant or on spiritually evolved christians.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:32 pm
Lazarus The Resurected NewFoundLight Forgotten_Skys I guess technically it does pertain to what you are saying, but some may consider it slightly off topic. either way check out this link Persecutionto be honest I think American christians are very arrogant, and problably deserve persecution, because well soem of them are just down right crazy and not real christians, by this I mean it seems they rather preach their beliefs to people instead of just tell people because they know there's a hell and their concerned about people's well fare after this life, and then some christians seem hostile to any and everything that doesn't fit with their doctrine like other religions I.E. Wicca or buddahism. However the persecution of christians outside of the united states...well thats another story, I should also note that Americans in general tend to be arrogant, or just some americans. nope not so much arrogant as whiny. "oooh noooo we can't blatantly brodcast our faith to those who don't want to hear it." in other countries it's "oh s**t we're all about to be executed becasue there was a spy in our church. " how would christians feel if the local satanist family handed out the 9 satanic principles on cassette to thier kids on hallowe'en or christmas? oh and we can be good without God. besides it's against the constitution for a public school to allow any religion within it's walls isn't it? I love how once again everyone stereotypes the American Chrisitian. The truth is that no we cannot be good without some type of God. You know why, because we won't teach morals in school. Ever since prayer was taken out of school, crim rates have gone up, school shooting rates are up, suicides are up, drug use is up, and alcohol related car crashes are up. Also, I do not appreciate how you make fun of people who are about to be executed. If they didn't want to hear it they wouldn't be at the church you idiot. Those people died for something they believed in, which I am going to guess is more than you would do, since that would make you "whiny". Personally I wouldn't mind if someone handed out a satan principles thing just because I disagree with them. So what if christians try to spread the word of our faith, at least most of us don't kill people over not being in our faith. Alot, not all, but alot of muslims believe people should die who are not a part of their faith. Not all of them act on it, but alot of them believe it. (Once again not all of them). So I can't really see how we are the intolerant ones here. Now to the original post. Yes america has fallen from the cross, it has become a place where people exploit and use politics to get money. Most politicians are evil and lie, cheat, steal, and kill just to gain a buck. Soon we will becom nothing more than a wasted country that accepts everything, where there is no truth, no justice, no hope, and no freedom.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:57 am
Actually, it is perfectly possible to be a good person without a God. It is, in fact, preferable. It means that you're being a good person because you are a good person, because you want to be a good person, and not because you fear divine retribution.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:30 pm
Lord Galadedrid Damodred Actually, it is perfectly possible to be a good person without a God. It is, in fact, preferable. It means that you're being a good person because you are a good person, because you want to be a good person, and not because you fear divine retribution. Well yes, I see your point, but is it possible for society to be good without a god if they aren't even teaching morals in school?
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:42 am
Regulous Lord Galadedrid Damodred Actually, it is perfectly possible to be a good person without a God. It is, in fact, preferable. It means that you're being a good person because you are a good person, because you want to be a good person, and not because you fear divine retribution. Well yes, I see your point, but is it possible for society to be good without a god if they aren't even teaching morals in school? I suppose it's up to one's parents to teach them right from wrong and things of the sort. But it is sad to think that a society needs a God to be good.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:27 pm
Lord Galadedrid Damodred Actually, it is perfectly possible to be a good person without a God. It is, in fact, preferable. It means that you're being a good person because you are a good person, because you want to be a good person, and not because you fear divine retribution. I wouldn't consider it preferable. Again, you are stereotyping Christians. You have to stop doing that!!! True, some Christians start out because they don't want to go to Hell. But as you get deeper in you start to experience the deeper truth of it; the endless love of God, the great feeling of worship, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:28 pm
Regulous Lord Galadedrid Damodred Actually, it is perfectly possible to be a good person without a God. It is, in fact, preferable. It means that you're being a good person because you are a good person, because you want to be a good person, and not because you fear divine retribution. Well yes, I see your point, but is it possible for society to be good without a god if they aren't even teaching morals in school? Yes, it is possible. Don't tell me you have never met a good person who didn't believe in God?
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