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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:24 am
I just wanted to start a debate about how were cutting carbon emissions and recycling, not whether or not we should
A few ideas to kick the topic off .If you can think of anymore that I’ve missed please throw them in the ring.
What do you do?
Are there (in your opinion) enough energy saving ideas where you live; or in general.
Do you think we are doing enough as a global community?
What kind of eco friendly ideas have you heard of / seen? What do you think about them?
You have any ideas how to save energy/recycle? Do we put enough emphasis on the importance of recycling/ saving energy or is there too much?
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:28 pm
Me personally, I recycle paper, glass, plastic, and cardboard I also walk if I want to go somewhere close to my house and I car pool frequently
No, they're not enough energy saving ideas where I live, let alone anywhere. I believe that some of the easiest things people are too laxy to do (i.e. recycle paper and what-not). Our planet's people are laxy, point blank. Of course there are those few that make a different, and the more power to them, but it'll take more than that to even make a dent in the distruction of our planet.
I heard about using cisterns for your house to recycle the water and I think that's a really smart idea. I've also heard of solar panaling on your roof... solar power isn't as advanced as it could be right now, but even as effective as it is at the moment, it helps.
I personally believe there isn't enough emphasis on recycling.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:40 pm
I would love to live in a house that ran solely on solar/wind power. There isn't much of anyone that cares about stuff like that around here because we can't afford to. Everyone around here is too busy trying to get by. Saving the earth is for rich people in lots of peoples eyes. I can't say I don't agree with them. It would be great if we could all live in harmony with nature, but oil is too profitable and that's the main problem in my opinion. We won't go green until there's no more oil.
We have the technology to run everything off of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power except for aircraft, so why don't we? Too much money in oil.
I don't recycle so much as I reuse, but then I'm countryfolk, so reusing things is sort of in my upbringing.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:47 am
Yeah I can agree with you about the cost issue, I looked into solar panels for our roof. Love to get them but could never afford it in the short term.
One issue round our area is the use of public transport, there's campaigns telling you go green go bus instead of using a car. (I have to use the service daily to get around because I don't drive)
There are plenty of people who do use the buses, only problem is the buses are to put it bluntly rubbish!(old, over priced, in need of a good clean, near enough impossible to get one after 6pm, not low liners though that is getting better…. sorry for the rant I have a lot of grievances with this company).
Seems to be at odds with the go green campaign, as they drive people off using public transport.
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Sand From The Future(GTD)
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:11 am
I can't think of any NEW ways to save energy off the top of my head. But I've just been cutting down on the amount of energy I use, whether that be by turning off appliances when I'm not using them, cutting down my hours on the PC, started using the close line again instead of the electrical dryer and little things like that.
I haven't been doing much though, and I'm pretty dissapointed in myself, but I'm a b*****d, so it's all good.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:26 am
A guy at my job use to collect cans for his temple. He's Hindu and his mentor told all his followers to collect as much cans as they can to recycle and use the money towards a new temple. About 6 years later, they ended up saving up to one million dollars to rebuild a huge temple. I've seen them working on it and it is simply...amazing...
But yeah, I would love to do that just to make the money. Sure it would sound good to do it for the good of the world and don't get me wrong, I do try to recycle when I can. But unfortunately, I tend to toss trash in the trash seeing how recycling bins aren't as numerious nor as easily accessiable as the ole fashion trash can. *shrugs* If there were perhaps more recycling bins to help promote recycling.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:07 pm
I try to do everything I can to leave a small footprint on the planet. Someday if I ever have any money I would like to live in one of these houses: http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/For now, I eat a nearly-vegan diet (I eat honey and the occasional free range egg). I don't have a car; I walk, ride with other people, or take the bus. I have joined a co op and I make almost all my food from scratch. I am growing tomatoes and peppers on my patio, and I have a little herb garden too. There is a farmer's market down the road every weekend in the summer so I also buy a lot of local produce (and honey!). I recycle in any way I can, like turning old clothes into new clothes or dust rags, but I'm sad to say I don't take my garbage to any kind of recycling station, ever since I saw the same dumptruck that picks up my trash, picking up the recycling kiosk and mixing all the trash together. I'm not aware of whether or not there is curbside recycling in my city. If there is, I have never seen the truck, nor blue boxes or anything like that. Oh and I have reusable grocery bags too. biggrin
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:49 pm
Aside from the green bins, there are other ways to recycle; if you've got some old stuff in your garage you never use and want to make some craft thing, look through what you have before buying stuff from a factory that pumps out CO2. I use dryer lint for stuffing instead of buying polyester stuff; and before you say lint's gross, consider the fact that you just washed it and dried it. I use parts from my old dinosaur computers to add to my good one (well... when it works. It's still broken). There are tons of things you can do to "recycle!"
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:04 pm
I try to recycle when I can, but my apartment complex doesn't have recycling bins : Hopefully within the next ten or twenty years there will be more trash to oil refineries, so recycling and trash dumps will both be obsolete. But last I heard the company that runs them was having financing issues (the technology is too new and too far outside the layman's realm of experience). So who knows what will happen with that. I'll try to remember to look up more info on them later and repost.
I use the bus as much as possible, rather than driving, but again, it's kind of hard to use the bus in LA as the city is huge and the county hasn't put nearly enough money into a comprehensive public transport system. Hopefully they'll be adding more train/metro access with the expansion of the 405 (I've heard rumors that the freeway is being expanded to add a monorail, but they could just be adding a longer carpool lane).
The green movement is actually one of my interests. I'm very interested in expanding sunlight use (by getting bigger windows and utilizing shade walls to reduce glare, as well as the new research into using fiber optics and parabolic mirrors to pipe sunlight into homes and office buildings). I'd love to help get more companies to put mini parks on the roofs of their skyscrapers.
Currently I'm trying to focus on getting through college, so I don't really have time to research volunteer or career opportunities within the green movement, but this summer I'll be looking for a job, and hopefully I'll find something to do to help out the environment smile
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:23 pm
Solvent Solution A guy at my job use to collect cans for his temple. He's Hindu and his mentor told all his followers to collect as much cans as they can to recycle and use the money towards a new temple. About 6 years later, they ended up saving up to one million dollars to rebuild a huge temple. I've seen them working on it and it is simply...amazing... But yeah, I would love to do that just to make the money. Sure it would sound good to do it for the good of the world and don't get me wrong, I do try to recycle when I can. But unfortunately, I tend to toss trash in the trash seeing how recycling bins aren't as numerious nor as easily accessiable as the ole fashion trash can. *shrugs* If there were perhaps more recycling bins to help promote recycling. One of the few things that my family actually recycles is aluminum cans and other metals. My brother makes a lot of extra cash by getting junk appliances and stripping the metal from them and selling it to recycling centers. We save our aluminum cans and then sell them to recyclers about once a year. Metal is really the only thing worth recycling around here, and the only thing feasible. It's somewhat profitable too, with aluminum around 50 cents per pound and copper being even higher. If there were more incentive for the average joe to recycle things it would make a lot of difference, I think.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:48 pm
Thank you to everyone for contributing to this discussion. mrgreen One issue I occasionally hear raised is that of force vs encouragement for social change in our behaviors, and the policies that are put in place for them. Currently I recycle cans(mainly pet food cans) paper and glass because there the only options were given in the trash pick up(no plastics, yet). It's picked up every fortnight alongside the regular trash, this is out of free choice and it is accepted round the local area; but and this is a big but, not every house hold puts out a blue box.
A pay as you throw scheme is eventually going to be implemented where you will be charged for regular trash but not recycling. [though there's always going to be someone who will put their extra bin bags in other peoples trash rolleyes to avoid paying this charge]
I hold no illusions it will happen , but for the council to gain more money in taxes, rather than eco friendly reasons xd ( yeah, my cynicism knows no bounds recently)
The aim is to force households to change their behavior or be seriously out of pocket.
I put this debate to you generous posters should the governments actually take this pro-active stance and force change, rather than appealing to the moral consciousness of people?
Oh , and here's a power saving idea that a friend suggested to me, remove a small bit of plastic. Ask manufactures to remove the stand by feature on appliances , saves them money on manufacturing and energy because you then have to turn it off.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:15 pm
I do think the government should...well, maybe not force people to recycle, but definitely provide strong incentives. Then again, how likely is that to happen when the US government doesn't even want to go with the Kyoto accord. Seriously, you are not China. Your country is far more developed. Control your ******** emissions.
And then you have American companies that move their factories to China because once they are there they don't have to obey the same green laws. *rageragerage*
Anyway... I would like to see the government do a bit more. Right now I think the best thing for the world is to raise kids in developing countries knowing they need to recycle, so the apathetic older generations don't screw over everyone. Things like Captain Planet, Fern Gully and the Magic School Bus might do more for the environment than government laws.
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