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Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:00 pm


otay, now I've read alot of the Bible and I haven't seen any place that says exactly how a man and a woman get married, I have noticed however that married people have sex, so does this mean that when you have sex with someone then you have married them....cause that would kinda suck, for people who have made mistakes in the past.
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:58 pm


politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe

Forgotten_Skys


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:05 am


As far as I can tell, it simply involves making an oath of love between two people and God. The whole ceremony, it seems, is just a way of showing your church community your commitment to another and to God. That's religious marriage. Legal marriage is not connected in any way to this and involve signing your name on a bunch of documents giving you and your partner over a thousand rights.
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:12 pm


Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?

Sir BlackHeart


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:13 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
As far as I can tell, it simply involves making an oath of love between two people and God. The whole ceremony, it seems, is just a way of showing your church community your commitment to another and to God. That's religious marriage. Legal marriage is not connected in any way to this and involve signing your name on a bunch of documents giving you and your partner over a thousand rights.
I know of legal marriage but where is the whole union between the people and GOD said in the Bible?
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:37 pm


what i believe(by the way..why are u asking??) is that it's really so that you don't comitt adultry. When your married to someone your supposed to be faithful to that person. Your union should glorify and satisfy God.

janet06


Forgotten_Skys

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:41 pm


NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?
I don't think it is when you have sex because it says sex outside of marriage is adultry (for that even looking at a person lustfully is adultry)

(these are random throughts, buisly looking for scriptures)
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:51 pm


Forgotten_Skys
NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?
I don't think it is when you have sex because it says sex outside of marriage is adultry (for that even looking at a person lustfully is adultry)
(these are random throughts, buisly looking for scriptures)
ok so not the one I was looking for but I found something

Quote:

I Corinthians 6:9-11, "Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God".


by definition to fornicate is
Quote:
voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other.

Forgotten_Skys


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:34 pm


janet06
what i believe(by the way..why are u asking??) is that it's really so that you don't comitt adultry.
Quote:
not my question
When your married to someone your supposed to be faithful to that person.
Quote:
no really I already understood that.
Your union should glorify and satisfy God
Quote:
don't care
.
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:36 pm


Forgotten_Skys
NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?
I don't think it is when you have sex because it says sex outside of marriage is adultry (for that even looking at a person lustfully is adultry)
Quote:
now how the heck is looking at a person adultery when the person isn't even married thats more like fornication thoughts


(these are random throughts, buisly looking for scriptures)
Quote:
they appear so.

Sir BlackHeart


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:37 pm


Forgotten_Skys
Forgotten_Skys
NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?
I don't think it is when you have sex because it says sex outside of marriage is adultry (for that even looking at a person lustfully is adultry)
(these are random throughts, buisly looking for scriptures)
ok so not the one I was looking for but I found something

Quote:

I Corinthians 6:9-11, "Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God".


by definition to fornicate is
Quote:
voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other.
Dann why did you need to put that verse and also you still didn't answer my original question what constitutes marriage?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:59 am


NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
Forgotten_Skys
NewFoundLight
Forgotten_Skys
politically you sign a bunch of documents and such

from what I understand otherwise it is a spiritual union/oath of commitment befor God (not the best phrasing, but you get it right?)

or at least this is what I have been led to believe
well I have not seen that in the Bible per say all I see is that a man and a woman come together to be one flesh and that what GOD has put together let no man seperate, but at what point are you married is it when you have sex, because I for the life of me have not found anything yet that talks about someone going into a church or synogoge and having a ritual and then your married in the Bible?
I don't think it is when you have sex because it says sex outside of marriage is adultry (for that even looking at a person lustfully is adultry)
(these are random throughts, buisly looking for scriptures)
ok so not the one I was looking for but I found something

Quote:

I Corinthians 6:9-11, "Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God".


by definition to fornicate is
Quote:
voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other.
Dann why did you need to put that verse and also you still didn't answer my original question what constitutes marriage?
I did I said so earlyer, but I have yet to come up with an answer. to which you would except.

however those scripture do prove (by technicality) that having sex is not something that sonstitutes marriage which was part or your orrigional question. if fornification is between two unmarried people, or two people not married to eachother, then how could it be marriage?by that standard they would be married and fornification would be practically nonexistant..

As far as I have found the bible does not constitute what exactially is to go on during a marriage. Other than it is a union before God and the couple are to becom one, unity through Christ.

(However I am not a biblical scholar, nor am I a Pastor so I may have missed something)

Forgotten_Skys


Metanoeo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:03 pm


NewFoundLight
otay, now I've read alot of the Bible and I haven't seen any place that says exactly how a man and a woman get married, I have noticed however that married people have sex, so does this mean that when you have sex with someone then you have married them....cause that would kinda suck, for people who have made mistakes in the past.

Not at all. Adultery (intercourse outside of the marriage covenant) is a sin, however it does not create a covenant in the sight of God. Marriage is a public confession and vow in agreement under God.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:49 pm


Song of songs talks about a marriage.....let me see if i can find a verse

xBiblexHuggerx


xBiblexHuggerx

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:52 pm


xBiblexHuggerx
Song of songs talks about a marriage.....let me see if i can find a verse



Hmmm...not that i can tell from first read....it's mostly there to show how the relationship should be between a man and a woman planning on being joined together by God.
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