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Tsunami Silver Dragon

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:56 pm


Basically, what I'd like to hear is mainly about how you react to society and how society reacts to you. Are you an outcast whether you want to be or not? Are you accepted? Are you popular? And most of all why?

Wikipedia defines society as, "A society is a grouping of individuals, which is characterized by common interests and may have distinctive culture and institutions. In a society, members can be from a different ethnic group. A "Society" may refer to a particular people, such as the Nuer, to a nation state, such as Switzerland, or to a broader cultural group, such as a Western society. Society can also refer to an organized group of people associated together for religious, benevolent, cultural, scientific, political, patriotic, or other purposes."

That being said, is society for all or only for some?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:46 am


I wouldn't know what my place it. I see it hard to see one's self in society without using others as the mirror to reflect who we are in that society. *shrugs* I don't know honestly, but if I had to guess what am I as in what label do I fall upon, I guess the crazy entertainer? The guy who has been called crazy because of his ideas and such, but will always be on people's good side because he can keep them smiling.

Maku the Dark

Wheezing Smoker


Minty Murder

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:40 pm


I'm an outsider. But I didn't want to be.

When I was younger, I did everything I could to fit in. But I grew up in Brooklyn, NY. I was the only black girl who was quiet, fond of Japanese art and games, fond of instrumentals and other music aside from rap, and several other elements. So I was made fun of and ridiculed my entire childhood. The thing I heard the most was that I needed to "act my race" or "stop trying to be -some race here-".

Even when I moved to Atlanta, which seemed alot more diverse to me, I was still an outsider. No one really accepted me. Everyone has little groups that all follow the same traits...and I just didn't have it.

I think, in time, I just forced myself to be an outsider. Even when people at work or when I went to school came up to me and tried to hang out with me, I pushed them away or preferred to be alone.

I suppose "society" made me into a loner and I just...taught myself to like it. Maybe out of hatred or bitterness, but I just preferred to be alone.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:59 pm


I'm an outsider, and I'd personally say that it's been by choice on my part. I've been given plenty of opportunities to integrate and become one of the gang, but all in all I've stuck it out beside my own thoughts and feelings, and as a result been labelled "******** up in the head" by many.
I don't dislike this status, nor do I wish to have it, but because I've managed to remain true to myself and true to my friends I can say that I’m comfortable enough with it.
I’d only change myself in order to land a job, which I think would apply to many. I’d dress to the norm, bite my tongue and simply grin and bare it.
When it comes down to the nitty gritty, in the end I control what I say, what I do, how I dress, and where I go. Society doesn't force me into those situations, it doesn't make me the outcast that I am.

Growing up I was definitely a dominant personality, and if someone disagreed with me I would demand they offer a sufficient rebuttal to their case, and if they couldn't suffice I would laugh or call them stupid. Needless to say that sought of behaviour didn't win me many friends. I'm dyslexic and bipolar, it didn't have an affect on me perse growing up, but instead it would have a direct affect on how other people viewed me as a person. Did it impact on my approachability? Most likely, but did I care? Not really, because back then according to my logic, if they were too afraid then they were sissies and I wanted nothing to do with them. I was an elitist child, and anyone who wasn't up to my high standards could go suck a ******** as far as I was concerned. All of my friends moving through the school system were just as egotistical and insensitive as me, hence the friendship.
Out of schooling and into the wider world. I'd say I was generally more at home. The once acceptable reasoning of children "that's wrong because it is" was no longer tolerable, and I was in heaven. I wouldn't say that I'd become any more endured, but it was a lot easier to form relationships for sure.

I still get looks when I step into shops, and more often than not have my belongings searched. I don’t expect the general society to accept me, when the only way of analysing my behaviour and personality is through my own physical appearance. I’m really the only one who can change this, but since I’m not interested, I’ll treat it like I do my job interviews for now.

Society is for all; it's really just a matter of finding your place in it.

the John Wilkes Booth


Dusk-Hunter

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:05 pm


I can't really call myself an OUTCAST, per se, but I'm not really a member of my society exactly. I move in and out at will, pretty much. Someone name that for me, and I'll tell you what I am biggrin
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:56 am


Well in school, there was never a particular group I felt that I fitted in with, but there was always a type of person from any group that I became friends with easily. The group of people I spent time with at school were the first people that spoke to me, and they seemed to be the nicest and simply put, they were (open minded) nerds.

One day I decided to stay home, and I've never left my house since. So at current, I'm a hermit.

If I was in a group of people similar to me, I have no doubts we'd get physically beaten if we ever met in public (It's happened to me simply because people have categorized me without us exchanging a word). The society in which I live, is very closed minded with a lot of energy that they don't know where/how to release.

You judge my place.

Sand From The Future(GTD)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:27 am


How large of a society? An international one, or one as small as a town or school? I believe that no one is accepted by all societies, but everyone is excepted by at least one.
As for me, I'm not recognized on the society of the world, save for my birth records. In school I'm known for my art and academics; in my town for musicianship. So I stand in my society as an artist of sorts.
I have no explanation for how I view society in turn. I might have already answered it.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:01 am


I'm the person who is everyone's friend, but nobody's best friend. I did that on purpose, because I think people get far too emotionally involved in high school and college than they should be. *shrugs* I don't know, really. That's as best as I could put it succinctly.

Saeric


The FDA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:42 am


This is something I've been doing a lot of thinking about lately. When I was a bit younger, and still in high school, I thought my place in the world was to be a s**t disturber. It's a role I play well. I like to ask hard questions and try to make people think about why they behave a certain way, or support certain things. Then 9/11 happened. Before 9/11, it seemed to me that America was headed in the right direction. It was OK to be concerned with the environment or drug legalization, to question things, etc. Now it seems like things have done a 180. People now look at me like I'm crazy or stupid for saying the same things I was saying 7 years ago. Maybe people just thought I was cute and precocious before? I dunno. But now I feel like I should keep my mouth shut just to keep the peace. Not that I really do. But I do spend more time inside than I ever have before.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:23 am


I hang out with people I like... and that's pretty much it for me. I never really cared what other people think... they don't do that nearly often enough to care, anyway xd

MyOwnBestCritic

Dapper Dabbler


Shintanai

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:33 pm


I am kind of an outcast (probably because of my undefined sexuality), though my peers seem to put on the illusion that I am marginally accepted. a few months ago, I wore a clearly femenine outfit to school (denim skirt, black tights). no one really said much. however, I was told to change in the middle of the day. I'm really part of a very small minority
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:58 pm


A bunch of the students, and even some teachers were outraged, Shintanai.

I'm an outcast, and I want to be. I'm me. It's who I am. I'm an anime freak who doesn't exercise and has weight problems. Though I could do without the weight problems, Anime Fan is totally my style because it's something I can obsess over without being creepy. At least, to a certain point.

I'm not really accepted by anybody but Shintanai and our friends, and I'm definitely not popular, but I prefer it that way because then I don't have a reputation to uphold.

`Cyanide Jellybean`


Tsunami Silver Dragon

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:53 am


Thank you all for your responses. I'll add my own response as well.

I've never viewed myself as someone who is part of society. Mostly because it seems to be that society itself is unwilling to accept me.

Most of the friends that I made when I was a child abandoned me a little after a year of so called "friendship". Most of them just hung around me to exploit either me or something that I had.

I was used, tormented, hated and never understood why. I still don't. I was almost always alone as well. The only ones that were there for me were people who were going through the same things.

At some point, something snapped inside of me and I rejected all of society. Any time they said something to me or about me, I ignored them completely. This was the exact opposite of what they wanted.

I was hated more then I was before but I didn't care. I didn't hate them back. I just moved forward without caring or letting them affect me.

Either way, it didn't stop me from doing what I did next. Unlike most of the popular side of things where people in my situation would slide into depression, I looked for a different path.

I took the few people that had proved that they were my friends and made us all family. What we couldn't do alone we could do together. And now, I look after them as a kind of big brother.

As for my last question, is society for all or only for some?

I think that it doesn't matter. Whether you're rejected by society or whether you're part of it, you're still you and you can only make choices that affect you.

Even if you're at the worst moment of your life things can get better if you want them too. Stay strong.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:24 pm


So far as I can tell I've lent myself to just enough weirdness in my lifestyle that I could come to school in a dress on Wednesday, stake my reason as "it's Wednesday, I always do this on Wednesdays, haven't you noticed before?" and be called awesome, but I'm far from outcast. I daresay I'm famous amongst my peers. I have no idea why.

My answer is that it doesn't matter how dysfunctional or popular someone is. Through some definition you're still part of society. Yes, even non-conformist weirdos. there are so many of those guys!

CakeBandit


[[.sheryl.]]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:07 am


Jeez, let's see...

I'm pretty popular, but not in the "omg lyke that's sooo totally kewl" way, more like the "If I try to be nice to other peeps they'll be fairly nice to me too" way.

Then I'm also a sort of loner, if I'm in a really bad mood I sort of get a book and sit somewhere out of the way. If someone comes near me, I'd just reply to them in these short, straight forward answers until they got bored enought to leave me alone. Then I can be this ED type person too, listing the reasons why this this this should be this this this and not that that that. And the old 'friends' I used to be around would act really pissed off because they knew they were utterly 'defeated' as far as brains went.

*points to signature* Yup. "Two-faced" is one hell of an understatement.
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