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holyredemptionx

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:05 am


Ok. Well , I have a friend and he is really nice - he was abused when he was a child and grew up in a harsh enviorment - His mom married out of desperation to remove from the catholic faith and has a sexuality issue - Father abused him veryyy much.

Well, we have been talking for over a year now and we have discussed religion a few times but he seems to get mad later into the conversation - when he was younger he beleived in God and prayed for the beating to stop but they didnt stop until around 14..

I explain to him that God did answer his prayers the beatings have stopped and so far there is no more pain. He does not know what to believe and I do not want to force religion onto him because that is known for pushing them away - I try hard to slowly creep into that topic and I care about him so I dont want him to be a lost soul.. He is not now but it can form into that he has not lost his virginity , does not drink , and never done drugs hes a good person.

I just want to help him and a little worried on how I can do that for some one I care about even though we have never met - its just that person who you dont want to see go bad.

Some tips please - Thank you soo much.

Please PM me if any questions about the conversations.

Thanks again. :]]

<3
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:49 am


This is a very good topic.


Here's the thing. I've learned that when you open up to people little by little usually they open up to you as well. Maybe you have this type of relationship with him. I don't know. When sharing your past experiences tell him how you got through it personally. Its the hardest thing in the world to have a friend that you care about so much and not know how to reach them. It's all about living your life for Christ.


I think what "pushy" is depends on the person. But in general i would have to say just being a better person for Christ.....

xBiblexHuggerx


The Lady Nikki

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:16 pm


i know when i was littler i was foruce to go to church every sunday and i hated it and didnt want to belive in christ and then about a year ago i moved with my dad and i had the choice to go to church and i didnt for a while then i started going to the after school program beacuse of what i herd about it (we mostly screw off but if i gots qs at the time i can ask the paster) then i thought i should pay my respect and started going to church on sunday.... thats my storie of my parents being to extream for my religian XD

but for friends i know i have them come to the after school program every now and then and they see me praying and when they come over for the night i tell them i have go to church and i invate then to come with and most of the time they do. i basicly make it like a trend for them and then they catch on and like it and i dont push them at all just invite.plus they see im ushally very nice (unless somthin is REALLY bothering me) and they wonder why and i say im a Christian.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:47 am


holyredemptionx
Ok. Well , I have a friend and he is really nice - he was abused when he was a child and grew up in a harsh enviorment - His mom married out of desperation to remove from the catholic faith and has a sexuality issue - Father abused him veryyy much.

Well, we have been talking for over a year now and we have discussed religion a few times but he seems to get mad later into the conversation - when he was younger he beleived in God and prayed for the beating to stop but they didnt stop until around 14..

I explain to him that God did answer his prayers the beatings have stopped and so far there is no more pain. He does not know what to believe and I do not want to force religion onto him because that is known for pushing them away - I try hard to slowly creep into that topic and I care about him so I dont want him to be a lost soul.. He is not now but it can form into that he has not lost his virginity , does not drink , and never done drugs hes a good person.

I just want to help him and a little worried on how I can do that for some one I care about even though we have never met - its just that person who you dont want to see go bad.

Some tips please - Thank you soo much.

Please PM me if any questions about the conversations.

Thanks again. :]]

<3



Look up the poem "footprints" it helped me a lot when i was young, for I suffered physical and mental abuse myself. It may help him, like it did me. The best ye can do, lass, is pray for him and lead by example, don't get angry when he pushes it away, because if he's anything like I was, he's afraid and blaming God. Don't give up on him.

Dilseacht


elmon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:55 am


My adivice is this: if he doesn't want to believe, don't try to make him to believe. It's his choice and there's no need for you to indoctrinate him. If he has suffered so much, why not just be there for him, instead of sneakily trying to change him? He's your friend, act like it.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:23 pm


elmon
My adivice is this: if he doesn't want to believe, don't try to make him to believe. It's his choice and there's no need for you to indoctrinate him. If he has suffered so much, why not just be there for him, instead of sneakily trying to change him? He's your friend, act like it.
umm, she's not trying to sneakily change him....uumm, let me say this, so you better understand where christians are coming from....not all christians because some of them are as you think people who just want to force their beliefs unto other people, however their are some christians who want to spread the gospel because well...well not every christian has the same reason but I will tell you mine....ehem, otay I have reason to believe their is a GOD and their is a hell I do not want people I am close too, or happen to like burn in that hell so I preach to them, not because I want to offend which by all means might happen when preaching to them. I do not mean to subjagate or belittle their beliefs because I realize hey this is how they were raised or what they have come to understand and trust for about whenever they formulates their beliefs. I'm honestly not trying be a jerk, but I have reason to believe what I do, and that is why I evngelize, it's kinda like you have reason to believe that the roofing over your neighbors house might not be too secure so I go and tell him hey I think maybe your roof isn't too secure you might want to do something about that or else it might crash down and kill you(not the best example, but I tries) but anyways yes thats basically what I'm think of when I want to evangelize to people and again not to be a jerk to them, even if I might come off as one because evangelism is offensive to other people.

Sir BlackHeart


elmon

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:15 am


NewFoundLight
elmon
My adivice is this: if he doesn't want to believe, don't try to make him to believe. It's his choice and there's no need for you to indoctrinate him. If he has suffered so much, why not just be there for him, instead of sneakily trying to change him? He's your friend, act like it.
umm, she's not trying to sneakily change him....uumm, let me say this, so you better understand where christians are coming from....not all christians because some of them are as you think people who just want to force their beliefs unto other people, however their are some christians who want to spread the gospel because well...well not every christian has the same reason but I will tell you mine....ehem, otay I have reason to believe their is a GOD and their is a hell I do not want people I am close too, or happen to like burn in that hell so I preach to them, not because I want to offend which by all means might happen when preaching to them. I do not mean to subjagate or belittle their beliefs because I realize hey this is how they were raised or what they have come to understand and trust for about whenever they formulates their beliefs. I'm honestly not trying be a jerk, but I have reason to believe what I do, and that is why I evngelize, it's kinda like you have reason to believe that the roofing over your neighbors house might not be too secure so I go and tell him hey I think maybe your roof isn't too secure you might want to do something about that or else it might crash down and kill you(not the best example, but I tries) but anyways yes thats basically what I'm think of when I want to evangelize to people and again not to be a jerk to them, even if I might come off as one because evangelism is offensive to other people.

Understand that you might be wrong in your beliefs, just like I think of my beliefs. I realize that there might be some deity, I just think it's very highly unlikely and therefore do not believe in it. There's a good chance that you turning people into Christians is for nothing and only stressed their lives.
Besides, your god would be really cruel if he only led in Christians, since there are people in the world who've never even heard of Christianity; just another mistakel.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:01 pm


elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
My adivice is this: if he doesn't want to believe, don't try to make him to believe. It's his choice and there's no need for you to indoctrinate him. If he has suffered so much, why not just be there for him, instead of sneakily trying to change him? He's your friend, act like it.
umm, she's not trying to sneakily change him....uumm, let me say this, so you better understand where christians are coming from....not all christians because some of them are as you think people who just want to force their beliefs unto other people, however their are some christians who want to spread the gospel because well...well not every christian has the same reason but I will tell you mine....ehem, otay I have reason to believe their is a GOD and their is a hell I do not want people I am close too, or happen to like burn in that hell so I preach to them, not because I want to offend which by all means might happen when preaching to them. I do not mean to subjagate or belittle their beliefs because I realize hey this is how they were raised or what they have come to understand and trust for about whenever they formulates their beliefs. I'm honestly not trying be a jerk, but I have reason to believe what I do, and that is why I evngelize, it's kinda like you have reason to believe that the roofing over your neighbors house might not be too secure so I go and tell him hey I think maybe your roof isn't too secure you might want to do something about that or else it might crash down and kill you(not the best example, but I tries) but anyways yes thats basically what I'm think of when I want to evangelize to people and again not to be a jerk to them, even if I might come off as one because evangelism is offensive to other people.

Understand that you might be wrong in your beliefs, just like I think of my beliefs. I realize that there might be some deity, I just think it's very highly unlikely and therefore do not believe in it. There's a good chance that you turning people into Christians is for nothing and only stressed their lives.
Besides, your god would be really cruel if he only led in Christians, since there are people in the world who've never even heard of Christianity; just another mistakel.
well the way I see it you have nothing to loose from just listeining to the message, and trying to find out if theirs a GOD....well actually if there is one then he make you give up your sinful habits so yea, but ummm, if there's not one then you can be like whatever and go on about your business and your life. To make what I am saying simpler because I think I may have confused myself, if you just listein to the gospel try it out and find out that there's no GOD, then just be like whatever and go about your life before, if there is a GOD(Yahweh) then you should problably get to know this GOD and confer with him on how to change your ways so in the end you are not caste into...you know...that one place.

Sir BlackHeart


N4ru[X]
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:11 pm


spread the faith? well, I'd advise using a butter knife....not too sharp, but it spreads pretty evenly...oh, and keep an eye on what bread you put it on...sometimes the bread is fragile, so it breaks and gets mushed kinda easy....
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:51 pm


N4ru[X]
spread the faith? well, I'd advise using a butter knife....not too sharp, but it spreads pretty evenly...oh, and keep an eye on what bread you put it on...sometimes the bread is fragile, so it breaks and gets mushed kinda easy....
dude are you pulling a Jesus and doing a parable.

Sir BlackHeart


N4ru[X]
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:56 pm


NewFoundLight
N4ru[X]
spread the faith? well, I'd advise using a butter knife....not too sharp, but it spreads pretty evenly...oh, and keep an eye on what bread you put it on...sometimes the bread is fragile, so it breaks and gets mushed kinda easy....
dude are you pulling a Jesus and doing a parable.


could be....does it work as one?

...or maybe I was just being random and running with a pun....
*wheeze* they run pretty fast, it's hard to keep up.....
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:01 pm


well one of my best friends is an athiest and the other day for the first time i tried to tell her about christ but i could sense that she felt uncomfortable and so i just stopped. what i'm trying to say is that just try to maybe tell him a testimony of yours or tell him how you got saved or tell him about jesus, but if he tells you to stop, just stop. that's when i know i'm starting to sound pushy.

my biology teacher is christian and he was talking to us one day about when he was an athiest years ago. he said that he had this one friend who was christian, and his friend would talk to him about christ a lot. Mr. Remy [my teacher] would push his friend away many times and pretend like he didn't care, like he was positive that there wasn't a God. but deep down, everytime his friend would talk about christianity, remy would get intrigued and started thinking "well what if there is a God" so anyway he wrestled with that thought for a while until one day when he was camping i think, he was looking up at the stars and he knew that there HAD to be something more. He knew that his friends and family and the universe just didn't pop out of nowhere, he realized that there really was a God and he gave his life to Christ that night.

you see, we can make a difference. if you really want your friend to become christian, just talk to him about it one day and like i said before, if he tells you to stop then just stop. but you never know if my teachers story will repeat itself with your friend. just remember that it's his choice, if it's meant to be it's meant to be.

[Jesus~Freak]


elmon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:37 am


[Jesus~Freak]
well one of my best friends is an athiest and the other day for the first time i tried to tell her about christ but i could sense that she felt uncomfortable and so i just stopped. what i'm trying to say is that just try to maybe tell him a testimony of yours or tell him how you got saved or tell him about jesus, but if he tells you to stop, just stop. that's when i know i'm starting to sound pushy.

my biology teacher is christian and he was talking to us one day about when he was an athiest years ago. he said that he had this one friend who was christian, and his friend would talk to him about christ a lot. Mr. Remy [my teacher] would push his friend away many times and pretend like he didn't care, like he was positive that there wasn't a God. but deep down, everytime his friend would talk about christianity, remy would get intrigued and started thinking "well what if there is a God" so anyway he wrestled with that thought for a while until one day when he was camping i think, he was looking up at the stars and he knew that there HAD to be something more. He knew that his friends and family and the universe just didn't pop out of nowhere, he realized that there really was a God and he gave his life to Christ that night.

you see, we can make a difference. if you really want your friend to become christian, just talk to him about it one day and like i said before, if he tells you to stop then just stop. but you never know if my teachers story will repeat itself with your friend. just remember that it's his choice, if it's meant to be it's meant to be.

And that guy taught a scientific subject?! How can a teacher teach something that he doesn't believe in? Fire the guy I say. I can look up at the stars and realize that everything has always been there and always will be, one way or another. I believe in the smallest of particles and the largest of processes.
Even the ancient Greeks knew that the world has always been there, just differently. The Big Bang isn't creation, it's just a huge change in the world and the expansion (again, NOT CREATION!!!) of the universe. That is truth to me. Maybe not to him, but there's plenty of evidence for that.
Would you take the truth away from someone?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:28 pm


elmon
[Jesus~Freak]
well one of my best friends is an athiest and the other day for the first time i tried to tell her about christ but i could sense that she felt uncomfortable and so i just stopped. what i'm trying to say is that just try to maybe tell him a testimony of yours or tell him how you got saved or tell him about jesus, but if he tells you to stop, just stop. that's when i know i'm starting to sound pushy.

my biology teacher is christian and he was talking to us one day about when he was an athiest years ago. he said that he had this one friend who was christian, and his friend would talk to him about christ a lot. Mr. Remy [my teacher] would push his friend away many times and pretend like he didn't care, like he was positive that there wasn't a God. but deep down, everytime his friend would talk about christianity, remy would get intrigued and started thinking "well what if there is a God" so anyway he wrestled with that thought for a while until one day when he was camping i think, he was looking up at the stars and he knew that there HAD to be something more. He knew that his friends and family and the universe just didn't pop out of nowhere, he realized that there really was a God and he gave his life to Christ that night.

you see, we can make a difference. if you really want your friend to become christian, just talk to him about it one day and like i said before, if he tells you to stop then just stop. but you never know if my teachers story will repeat itself with your friend. just remember that it's his choice, if it's meant to be it's meant to be.

And that guy taught a scientific subject?! How can a teacher teach something that he doesn't believe in? Fire the guy I say. I can look up at the stars and realize that everything has always been there and always will be, one way or another. I believe in the smallest of particles and the largest of processes.
Even the ancient Greeks knew that the world has always been there, just differently. The Big Bang isn't creation, it's just a huge change in the world and the expansion (again, NOT CREATION!!!) of the universe. That is truth to me. Maybe not to him, but there's plenty of evidence for that.
Would you take the truth away from someone?


oh im in a christian school, he teaches biology but he doesnt teach things like evolution. i respect what you believe and i understand why you believe it because it does in fact have some evidence to back it up. but i believe that there is a God and i know that we weren't put on this earth just to live and die. it's not a matter of proof, it's a matter of faith. think of it this way, i would rather be a christian, die, and find that there is no God, than be an athiest, die, and find out that there is.

[Jesus~Freak]


GuardianAngel44

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 am


elmon
[Jesus~Freak]
well one of my best friends is an athiest and the other day for the first time i tried to tell her about christ but i could sense that she felt uncomfortable and so i just stopped. what i'm trying to say is that just try to maybe tell him a testimony of yours or tell him how you got saved or tell him about jesus, but if he tells you to stop, just stop. that's when i know i'm starting to sound pushy.

my biology teacher is christian and he was talking to us one day about when he was an athiest years ago. he said that he had this one friend who was christian, and his friend would talk to him about christ a lot. Mr. Remy [my teacher] would push his friend away many times and pretend like he didn't care, like he was positive that there wasn't a God. but deep down, everytime his friend would talk about christianity, remy would get intrigued and started thinking "well what if there is a God" so anyway he wrestled with that thought for a while until one day when he was camping i think, he was looking up at the stars and he knew that there HAD to be something more. He knew that his friends and family and the universe just didn't pop out of nowhere, he realized that there really was a God and he gave his life to Christ that night.

you see, we can make a difference. if you really want your friend to become christian, just talk to him about it one day and like i said before, if he tells you to stop then just stop. but you never know if my teachers story will repeat itself with your friend. just remember that it's his choice, if it's meant to be it's meant to be.

And that guy taught a scientific subject?! How can a teacher teach something that he doesn't believe in? Fire the guy I say. I can look up at the stars and realize that everything has always been there and always will be, one way or another. I believe in the smallest of particles and the largest of processes.
Even the ancient Greeks knew that the world has always been there, just differently. The Big Bang isn't creation, it's just a huge change in the world and the expansion (again, NOT CREATION!!!) of the universe. That is truth to me. Maybe not to him, but there's plenty of evidence for that.
Would you take the truth away from someone?


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