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Maximillian Shadowdrake

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:37 pm


What is Good? What is Evil? I have absolutely no idea! Are they extremes? Are they on a spectrum? Taken from this, what is truth? What is justice, honor, virtue, integrity, law, chaos? What do you think?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:48 pm


I believe that good and evil is perspective. Good is what you also see and evil is the antagonist against your beliefs. An individual will have to justify that on their own terms; therefore, what good and evil is, just basically comes down to opinion. If you're looking at it in terms of society, then it's what the majority of the people that agree with is right.

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Decemius

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:50 pm


Iksuinoyume
I believe that good and evil is perspective. Good is what you also see and evil is the antagonist against your beliefs. An individual will have to justify that on their own terms; therefore, what good and evil is, just basically comes down to opinion. If you're looking at it in terms of society, then it's what the majority of the people that agree with is right.
Perfectly put. What one person views as good, another could view as the most immoral action possible.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:55 pm


Is good opposite from evil?
Or is it a balance, with the extremes on each side of it different kinds of evil? Is law a natural part of good, or can chaos also be a part of good?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:18 am


While I mostly agree with the view that good and evil are perspectives, I also believe that there are certain situations which all can agree are absolutely evil or absolutely good. For example, I don't believe you'd be hard-pressed to find a human being who felt it was an act of good to randomly beat the living daylights out of some kid. At the same time, were you to share your bread with a starving child, I don't think many people would consider it an act of evil; they might become jealous, but I doubt they could attest that the act would be a bad one.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:46 pm


Anyone ELSE want to toss in their two cents worth?

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SneakyPope

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:40 pm


I disagree with a relativistic view of good and evil. I believe that they are opposite, and that the disagreement over right and wrong is based on our own imperfect understanding.(I do not claim to know all that is good or evil)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:35 pm


I believe that it's kind of like left and right. From my perspective left and right is defined as one way and from another facing their left and right is opposite. If our individualistic perspectives are removed they are actually the same.

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Maximillian Shadowdrake

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:53 pm


Decemius
Iksuinoyume
I believe that good and evil is perspective. Good is what you also see and evil is the antagonist against your beliefs. An individual will have to justify that on their own terms; therefore, what good and evil is, just basically comes down to opinion. If you're looking at it in terms of society, then it's what the majority of the people that agree with is right.
Perfectly put. What one person views as good, another could view as the most immoral action possible.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:57 am


I agree, it is definitely someone's perspective that defines "good" and "evil."

When little kids play with little army toys or whatever, there's always a "good" and "bad" side. The "good" is usually their team and the "bad" is the other kids team. But to the other kid, they are "good" and the other is "bad." I'm not sure if this made any sense, but I thought that was interesting.

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JASolomon

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:36 pm


"That which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil" - Friedrich Nietzsche

I don't like the term 'evil', as I think that bad is the natural opposite of good. To say that something is bad is to say it is not good, to say something is evil is to condemn it, I think. Some things we can accept are bad for ourselves, but are not necessarily evil, for example, drinking to me on a personal level is bad, but I do not believe alcohol to be evil. I would therefore never condemn anyone for doing it or look down upon someone for it. I think that 'evil' has certain connotations that make whatever that act is 'unacceptable'.

But yeah, rant aside, I think that to say there is a definite, objective 'good' and an 'evil' seems funny, I'd agree that its based on situation and consequence.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:20 am


it is true that in common usage good and evil are definitions based on opinion and though you could find conditions in which most or seemingly all would agree, it is still opinion.
the concepts of good and evil are historically based around religious beliefs in which a value system is established. you can have your own value system without religion. now a value system often as at least one thing, an ideal. for this example we can use the "light of god", so one with a value system based on the light of god would have a concept of what this means and would judge things accordingly. anything that works towards a realization of the light of god, that which moves toward or points in its direction is good. any act that turns away is evil. the word "sin" has a deeper meaning than doing something that you are not supposed to, it can be interpreted as "to miss the mark", the mark of course is the highest point of value in the case of this example the light of god. now to use another value system there are those who believe that evolution is our goal on earth and they would judge right and wrong, good and evil on those terms. good is that which moves towards or works for evolution and evil is anything that hinders evolution.
now another example is that of the materialist who has as their highest goal power and possessions, to that person anything that increases power or position or makes money is good and anything that hinders such progress is evil. you see this in large corporations who conduct business without regards to the health of the environment or even their employees, money is the bottom line.
now this still leaves the matter as a relative issue, but it can be absolute to the individual.
to me it seems that there can be a compass with which we can judge our actions but i do not yet know how to talk about it, but here i have explained the functions behind it. perhaps one who is in touch with reality and the natural way would have a better understanding than one who works daily with unnatural and artificial conditions.

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