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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:50 am
Hello all!
Let's get to thinking, if you will.
I have always been facinated by dreams. I'm sure we all are. A dream, is a time of being alone and being free. When our sensual conscieness is put to rest, our subconscience is awoken. We go to places we've never seen, see people we've never met, do things we coulden't imagine awake; we defy physical law! In my eyes, dreams are a treasure. Everyone wishes they could fly or have magical powers, and in dreams such things are possible... in a dreamy sort of way ofcourse. We are confused by our dreams, oblivious to thier meanings, or if they even have a meaning. They are unpredictable, they surprise us, scare us, pleasure us. But they are our creations, ours alone. We are alone when we have them, and we are alone when we visit them.
What do they say? What do they mean? Where do they come from? Why? How? Share your thoughts on dreams. I'm sure you have many. I know I do.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:12 pm
Hehe... I bet this is going to be here a whiiiiiile...
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:27 pm
Hmmm...I don't think there's another thread for this and I can't imagine why! Thanks for creating one! biggrin
Now for my thoughts on the subject:
Dreams are a combination of what we witness in reality (or whatever each perceives as reality), what we imagine, and what other people help supply our imaginations with. Sometimes we visit different worlds spun by Tolkien, JK Rowling, or Clive Barker (I know I spend most my time in Clive Barker's Abarat, for shizzure) and sometimes we create our own from bits and pieces that we enjoy or fear the most. Sometimes we experience great loves and adventures within the few hours that we sleep, experiencing years of events, fooling our minds.
You experience feeling (least ways I have) like falling sensations, warm & cold, etc.
But then upon waking from these dreams if you don't describe them to yourself or others in great detail, the detail slips and fades, sometimes forever leaving you. And what about those reoccuring dreams? Sometimes they happen exactly the same while other times they'll be tweaked just a little bit.
I heart dreams. 3nodding
PS - I'm moving the thread to the subforum, darlin'. Just an FYI.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:39 am
What does the poll have to do with the discussion topic?
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:55 pm
Skybrarian What does the poll have to do with the discussion topic? Not much, but a little. smile
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:38 pm
I'm quite the lucid dreamer and I think that lucid dreaming allows me to express the most hidden parts of myself. When you realize you're dreaming all the doors open and you have complete control over your reality. It's interesting because I'll find myself dreaming about work and then I realize that I'm dreaming and drop doing what I'm doing at work and leave to dream something else. Dreams are things that happen inwardly, as in inspired by events from your own reality. They are like the language of your subconsious.
(I get really untransitiony when my thoughts flow.)
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:36 pm
i think that the human mind has limiters on it when concious that are removed from you when your conciousness is removed in sleep and in dreaming, i beleive that in a state of absolute meditation you could acheive this same effect and that its benefits would be countless.
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:11 pm
moyga i think that the human mind has limiters on it when concious that are removed from you when your conciousness is removed in sleep and in dreaming, i beleive that in a state of absolute meditation you could acheive this same effect and that its benefits would be countless. I believe exactly the oppsitie. I belive that the mind is free in a dream, bu ttheir is no free will, though there may appear to be. Every time I have realized I was dreaming, or had any thought of choice of my own, I immediatly wake up. I have no controll over my dreams, but I have total controll of medetation, becasue I can stop at any time, or think of somthign else. IN a dream you have to realize you are dreaming, which has a randome chance of happening. IN my medetation I know I am awake and that I should focus on the thing I am thinking about, and when I am done I know I shoudl change it, even though I could change it earlyer if I want, be casue I know its real the entire time. I know sombody is going to want to say," What is real" after reading this, but please know that I don't care if you think real doesent exist, because I do. I will lsiten, but it really doesent matter, because once you decide weather anything is real or not, you can move on to other topics and expand your mind even furhter. Woah those wehre some long scentences. Lol.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:46 am
i think dreams are a gateway... to what i cannot say for sure. for some they are a movie, images pass before the eyes but there is not participation, for others that are like a video game a fantastic adventure that is only experienced by the mind, for some they are an outlet for desires repressed or unexpressed in waking life, for others they are a recap and remix of the days events. i think dreams can become what you want or expect. For me different dreams are different, i certainly have movie dreams and sometimes game dreams, sometimes in my dreams i spend immeasurable time collecting treasure or sifting through trinkets at a yard sale only to wake up empty handed, my favorite dreams are the ones with messages about our lives and even better are the kind where i travel to some special place to learn, because reading is one of my favorite pastimes. i like to think that dreams can be kind of like in the matrix when they upload learning into their brains, i feel that i gain experience from dreams. which reminds me of an article i read once that was talking about how this experiment was conducted with brain scans where people practiced music on a piano, then thought about the same practice, imagining in the mind playing the keys, in both the same areas of the brain were working. for a long time it has been known that visualization can help people accomplish whatever they want, athletes become better if they imagine themselves doing better. the zen archer who is one with the target. if we could harness that kind of learning in the space of dreams perhaps we could learn fantastic things.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:22 pm
Dreams are simply states of mind in my opinion lol. simple. hahahah.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:55 am
"I have often wondered if the majority of mankind ever paused to reflect upon the occasionally titanic significance of dreams, and of the obscure world to which they belong. Whilst the greater number of our nocturnal visions are perhaps no more than faint and fantastic reflections of our waking experiences - Freud to the contrary with his puerile symbolism - there are still a certain remainder whose immundane and ethereal character permit no ordinary interpretation, and whose vaguely exciting and disquieting effect suggests possible minute glimpses into a sphere of mental existence no less important than physical life, yet separated from that life by an all but impassable barrier. From my experience i cannot doubt but that man, when lost to terrestrial consciousness, is indeed sojourning in another and uncorporeal life of a far different nature from the life we know, and of which only the slightest and most indistinct memories linger after waking. From these blurred and fragmentary memories we may infer much, yet prove little. We may guess that in dreams life, matter, and vitality, as earth knows such things, are not necessarily constant; and that time and space do not exist as our waking selves comprehend them. Sometimes i believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." Beyond the Wall of Sleep - H.P.Lovecraft
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:36 pm
I_27_04 Dreams are simply states of mind in my opinion lol. simple. hahahah. I think the last thing in the world that is simple is a "state of mind"..
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:47 pm
i never remember any of my dreams... sad
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:20 pm
MegaTherion777 i never remember any of my dreams... sad IF you don't remember you're dreams then how do you know you have them?
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:20 pm
I often have very Vibrant dreams. Sometimes they are utter nonsense and sometimes they are extremely real. Sometimes they have nothing to do with the waking world, and sometimes they are frighteningly accurate. I hope that my dreams don't actually mean anything. Or if they do, that it's very difficult to discern from mine. I often have dreams that remind me of what others have described while on hallucinogens. Although I always feel a bit loopy after having these dreams, I would not stop having them were I given the choice. They're really quite enjoyable. Mostly. On the other hand, occasionally have dreams that correlate to the waking world far too well. Now before I even start on this side of the story, let me point out that I absolutely do not believe in predicting the future. Anyway, I occasionally have dreams that seem to approximately predict what happens. I never know when the events will occur, or if they even will. But if they do, it's a really trippy experience. I'd say it's like deja vu times ten. I really just think that these dreams happen to be coincidence though.
Does anyone else have such lucid dreams?
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