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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:14 am
For those non-British guild members you might not know about the new ban on smoking inside public places act that will come into power on July 1st. This means no one will be able to smoke inside an enclosed public place, such as a bar/restaurant, work area, shopping centre/shops or pretty much anywhere else.
What do you think of it? A little too strong? That it's not strong enough?
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:41 am
I already know about this as I live in the UK, but my initial reaction was about bloody time! I still believe that the government need to either ban smoking altogether or legalise soft drugs, some of which are a lot better than tobacco.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:29 am
As, although a complete ban on smoking would cause people to start yattering about human rights to freedom etc. Personally, I think they should but it's like all other drugs, you can't truly enforce it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:23 pm
Emmanuela As, although a complete ban on smoking would cause people to start yattering about human rights to freedom etc. Personally, I think they should but it's like all other drugs, you can't truly enforce it. So why not legalise other drugs then. That way they would be cheap and at least pure. It would cut crime drasticly as they wouldn't have to turn to crime to fund their habit. And the big drug barrons wouldn't make money anymore which can only be a good thing.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:49 pm
True, true but not everybody thinks like that so I doubt the law would go through that easily. It's a sort of socially accepted thought that "drugs are bad"- people would not want things like heroine made legal.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:23 am
I'm against the smoking ban. It's just restricting people's freedom too much without good reason. Everybody knows smoking is unhealthy, and if people still choose to do it, that should be their choice. I'm a non-smoker (of tobacco anyway! xD) but the smell of people smoking doesn't really bother me and if it did, I would simply move away from them and the smoke.
The situation where there was smoking and non-smoking areas in pubs and restaurants was fine. If I want to go out to the pub or for a meal with my mother (who smokes) or my friends (some of whom smoke) I'd prefer for us all to be able to sit together in a smoking area and for them to be able to enjoy their evening too.
If there were going to be restrictions on anything, why not ban alcohol in public places? There's far more problems caused by drunk people turning violent and fighting in the street at the pubs' kicking out time or driving home drunk and hitting someone. Smoking doesn't make people violent or unsafe.
I don't believe in banning alcohol either. When it comes to drugs, (the ones which are currently legal or illegal) more emphasis should be placed on educating people about the dangers and addictiveness than on criminalizing users.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:43 am
Badgerkin I'm against the smoking ban. It's just restricting people's freedom too much without good reason. Everybody knows smoking is unhealthy, and if people still choose to do it, that should be their choice. I'm a non-smoker (of tobacco anyway! xD) but the smell of people smoking doesn't really bother me and if it did, I would simply move away from them and the smoke. The situation where there was smoking and non-smoking areas in pubs and restaurants was fine. If I want to go out to the pub or for a meal with my mother (who smokes) or my friends (some of whom smoke) I'd prefer for us all to be able to sit together in a smoking area and for them to be able to enjoy their evening too. If there were going to be restrictions on anything, why not ban alcohol in public places? There's far more problems caused by drunk people turning violent and fighting in the street at the pubs' kicking out time or driving home drunk and hitting someone. Smoking doesn't make people violent or unsafe. I don't believe in banning alcohol either. When it comes to drugs, (the ones which are currently legal or illegal) more emphasis should be placed on educating people about the dangers and addictiveness than on criminalizing users. Without good reason? Well that is definatly a matter of oppinion. As with smoking/non-smoking areas it you are sitting on the egde of the non-smoking its just as bad as being in the smoking. Besides, the staff have the right to work in a smoke free environment. People have died from second had smoke. They're not banning smoking, only saying you can't where it will have an impact on other people. It there should be more education about drugs, shouldn't that include smoking? After all, tobacco is a drug too.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:19 am
~Rainbow Coloured Starz~ Badgerkin I'm against the smoking ban. It's just restricting people's freedom too much without good reason. Everybody knows smoking is unhealthy, and if people still choose to do it, that should be their choice. I'm a non-smoker (of tobacco anyway! xD) but the smell of people smoking doesn't really bother me and if it did, I would simply move away from them and the smoke. The situation where there was smoking and non-smoking areas in pubs and restaurants was fine. If I want to go out to the pub or for a meal with my mother (who smokes) or my friends (some of whom smoke) I'd prefer for us all to be able to sit together in a smoking area and for them to be able to enjoy their evening too. If there were going to be restrictions on anything, why not ban alcohol in public places? There's far more problems caused by drunk people turning violent and fighting in the street at the pubs' kicking out time or driving home drunk and hitting someone. Smoking doesn't make people violent or unsafe. I don't believe in banning alcohol either. When it comes to drugs, (the ones which are currently legal or illegal) more emphasis should be placed on educating people about the dangers and addictiveness than on criminalizing users. Without good reason? Well that is definatly a matter of oppinion. As with smoking/non-smoking areas it you are sitting on the egde of the non-smoking its just as bad as being in the smoking. Besides, the staff have the right to work in a smoke free environment. People have died from second had smoke. They're not banning smoking, only saying you can't where it will have an impact on other people. It there should be more education about drugs, shouldn't that include smoking? After all, tobacco is a drug too. I say it is without good reason because smoking only physically harms the smoker and anyone who chooses to stand near enough to breathe in the smoke. In my opinion the only type of behavior that warrants banning/restricting is that which causes harm to other animals (including people), or the environment. There are already enough restrictions on smoking. Sit in the middle of the no-smoking area then? Or go somewhere where there are separate smoking and non-smoking rooms. I know there are dangers of second-hand smoke. That's why people can choose not to stand near someone who is smoking. The staff who work in places where people smoke have the choice of where to work. Nobody is forcing anybody to breathe in second-hand smoke. It's probably a job that would appeal to a smoker more than a non-smoker anyway. Of course drug education should include smoking. There is actually a lot of education about smoking in schools already and I can't switch the television on these days without seeing a 'give up smoking' advert. Did anyone say tobacco wasn't a drug? ^_^ July 1st 2007: Another blow for Civil Liberties and freedom of choice. mad
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:44 am
Because encouraging to stop people smoking and therefore saving their lives and those of people and animals around them is such an evil thing. I mean, of course we want everyone to die from lung cancer because that would make us all so much happier. And smelling like an ash tray is really attractive too.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:25 pm
Badgerkin ~Rainbow Coloured Starz~ Badgerkin I'm against the smoking ban. It's just restricting people's freedom too much without good reason. Everybody knows smoking is unhealthy, and if people still choose to do it, that should be their choice. I'm a non-smoker (of tobacco anyway! xD) but the smell of people smoking doesn't really bother me and if it did, I would simply move away from them and the smoke. The situation where there was smoking and non-smoking areas in pubs and restaurants was fine. If I want to go out to the pub or for a meal with my mother (who smokes) or my friends (some of whom smoke) I'd prefer for us all to be able to sit together in a smoking area and for them to be able to enjoy their evening too. If there were going to be restrictions on anything, why not ban alcohol in public places? There's far more problems caused by drunk people turning violent and fighting in the street at the pubs' kicking out time or driving home drunk and hitting someone. Smoking doesn't make people violent or unsafe. I don't believe in banning alcohol either. When it comes to drugs, (the ones which are currently legal or illegal) more emphasis should be placed on educating people about the dangers and addictiveness than on criminalizing users. Without good reason? Well that is definitely a matter of opinion. As with smoking/non-smoking areas it you are sitting on the edge of the non-smoking its just as bad as being in the smoking. Besides, the staff have the right to work in a smoke free environment. People have died from second had smoke. They're not banning smoking, only saying you can't where it will have an impact on other people. It there should be more education about drugs, shouldn't that include smoking? After all, tobacco is a drug too. I say it is without good reason because smoking only physically harms the smoker and anyone who chooses to stand near enough to breathe in the smoke. In my opinion the only type of behavior that warrants banning/restricting is that which causes harm to other animals (including people), or the environment. There are already enough restrictions on smoking. Sit in the middle of the no-smoking area then? Or go somewhere where there are separate smoking and non-smoking rooms. I know there are dangers of second-hand smoke. That's why people can choose not to stand near someone who is smoking. The staff who work in places where people smoke have the choice of where to work. Nobody is forcing anybody to breathe in second-hand smoke. It's probably a job that would appeal to a smoker more than a non-smoker anyway. Of course drug education should include smoking. There is actually a lot of education about smoking in schools already and I can't switch the television on these days without seeing a 'give up smoking' advert. Did anyone say tobacco wasn't a drug? ^_^ July 1st 2007: Another blow for Civil Liberties and freedom of choice. mad Be realistic! Until now there was not always an alternative to being with people who are smoking. It was not a choice. If you wanted to eat in a restaurant and there is smoke you can't just move your table into another room! So your choice is to put up with it or go to another restaurant. Why should you be forced to do that? If you say you don't smoke, why are you so anti the ban? You say that it restricts peoples freedom too much, but most people are supporting it, what about their rights?
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