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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:15 pm
sweeden seems to be the most effective socialist nation to date, yes they have incorporated eliments of capitalism. however they are nevertheless socialist.
the sweedish have next to no homless, free health care, and a slum which many middle class americans would like to live in.
they seem to me to be the greatest example of a working socalist nation.
your thoughts comrads?
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:40 pm
Psst... comrade, 9:15 pm isn't that late, you misspelled the subject of this forum: Sweden, among other things. You also misspelled things in the poll.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:42 pm
European countries, especially those of the EU, are social democracies; that is why Sweden has capitalist as-well-as socialist elements.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:30 am
I both agree and disagree.
Before, it was a socialist paradise, but with always with capitalistic elements.
Nowadays, everything is getting twisted and torn beyond recognition. Everything is on the way of getting privatized and the socialistic elements are slowly dying.
The people itself is still fairly socialistic, but that changes with the day also and it's sad hearing people with no knowledge speaking of privatized healthcare, privatized liquor store, privatized dental care, the list goes on. Even the post system is now owned by Denmark. (I know, I shat my pants hearing about this too.)
Everything here is just on the brink of chaos. It's either a Socialistic or Communistic retake that can change everything back to normal or we'll have to face our other destiny, which is chaos or anarchy.
I'd rather have a Communistic government takeover (ofcourse, why else would I be here?) but if chaos is what they want, bring it on.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:37 pm
Ed, I wouldn't worry too much. Once we get the Social Democrats back, which we will in 2010, (according to polls, the Social Democrats have more than 50% of the votes) they'll hopefully fix things. Although I doubt the healthcare system can be restored, at least not anytime soon... since they're selling the drug stores (apoteket) and a bunch of hospitals. They'd have to buy it all back, which would be hard.
I found it pretty humorous when the drug stores started selling sex toys because some company had bought them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:39 pm
Sweden is hardly has a socialist economy in the traditional sense. It has a mild form of socialism, or social democracy. Social democracy is unlike socialism in that it is heavily based on a market-capitalist system, and funds its social services and welfare through taxation.
In short, Sweden's social democracy uses taxes (they have a 51% income tax-rate there, but it is being cut as social services are) to fund social services, government regulatory activity and welfare. A true socialist economy would have the state own and directly control or manage the "means of production", whereas in Sweden most enterprises are privately owned. A true socialist economy would also not rely on taxation to fund welfare and social services; the state would generate revenue through the operation of its enterprises and the use and handling of its own resources (as opposed to letting private and foreign companies own and profit off of them). And finally, a true socialist economy would not require a "redistribution of wealth" through excessive welfare programs because the state would compensate every citizen with enough money/resources to maintain a decent standard of living in the first place.
So what kind of economy does Sweden have? Sweden is a social democratic mixed-economy that is more on the capitalist than the socialist side of the spectrum now with privatization and de-regulation taking place. Sweden's social democracy is noted for having one of the highest quality of life ratings in the world. The citizens are largely free from debt, private insurance companies and simply pay for such through their taxes, which gives them more time to focus on their interests and occupations as opposed to simply trying to "make ends meet".
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