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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:52 pm
http://zerointelligence.net/archives/000243.phpEffective July 1 Georgia schools will have the power to suspend student licenses for up to a year.
The law says students can get their license suspended for a year if they miss more than 10 unexcused days, drop out without graduating and remain out for 10 straight days, or for fighting, having drugs or committing sexual offenses.
Don't forget that suspensions and expulsions are unexcused absences. The State, in it's infernal wisdom, has granted the scholastic body a control over a completely non-scholastic civic process. This will not go well.
This law extends the reach of the school codes into the private lives of the students in places even the courts of law can't go. Let's take an example from my own county of Gwinnett. Hair spray and lighters are considered drug paraphernalia by the school codes. Possession of either carries a mandatory 9 day suspension. Can you imagine losing your driver's license for possession of a Zippo?
How about emancipated 17-year olds or 18 year-old seniors? They are legal adults and not bound to mandatory education requirements. Until now, that is. Now schools will be able to force these people to stay in school as well. You want to drop out of school and get a job? Well sure, just don't plan on driving to work.
So far this year, Houston County schools don't have any problems with student attendance rates in order to make Adequate Yearly Progress, which measures a school's performance each year, school officials said. But some schools lacked the required rate of test participation and are now listed as a needs-improvement school, [state Rep. Larry] O'Neal said.
"This administration thought it was unfair of school districts to be judged on what they could not enforce," O' Neal said. "This dealt with unexcused truancy, those spitting in the face of the establishment."
One serious problem here, Mr. O'Neal. There are already current laws and methods of truancy enforcement. Schools and local law can indeed enforce their attendance policies. This is not some rope thrown to a drowning man as he indicates. It's just yet another example of a rampant and out of control bureaucracy running amok.How can they do this legally? A driver's license is between an individual and the state. How do school boards suddenly get authority over if a young person can drive? What about an 18 year-old who decides not to go? They can be punished by the revocation of their license eventhough they're legal adults? .
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:58 pm
thats insain. If I lived there I'd be fighting to have it revoked. Personally, I don't think people should have to go to school. I think education is a great priviledge and should be viewed as such.
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:26 pm
Exactly. Let the stupid be stupid if they want. In my America, there'd be no welfare. Let them starve. It's not anyone else's problem.
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:24 pm
Shinobi_1977 Exactly. Let the stupid be stupid if they want. In my America, there'd be no welfare. Let them starve. It's not anyone else's problem. mmmmhmmmm. I like Michaels badnariks look on it, welfare is legalized theft. Would it be okay if someone robbed you for health care money?
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:58 pm
How can we even hope to have a libertarian government in the future when schools are teaching students to accept statism? And don't tell me it's to increase test scores. Sure, japanese have higher test scores because their schools and parents are stricter, but they also have the highest suicide rates. scream
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:26 am
Who cares if they kill themselves, as long as the survivors are smarter... What happened to personal responsability? If a parent can't get there kids to go to school, without goverment interference, then that kid has problems anyway, and maybe we dont want him in school. Personally, I think way to many jobs require a high school education. I'm on the fast track where I work and the only thing I ever use from highschool is ROTC and weight training.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:52 pm
Libertarian2008 Who cares if they kill themselves, as long as the survivors are smarter... What happened to personal responsability? If a parent can't get there kids to go to school, without goverment interference, then that kid has problems anyway, and maybe we dont want him in school. Personally, I think way to many jobs require a high school education. I'm on the fast track where I work and the only thing I ever use from highschool is ROTC and weight training. THE POINT IS THAT SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE MANDITORY. People who are forced against their will to learn will in fact....not learn, making the whole process a complete waste of money. High School is not for everyone, some people just need to pick up a trade. I personally don't care if America becomes illerate, for then I'll be a genius, and that would fun lol. Besides, the education in this country is going down the toilet. With the current quality of schools now, everyone might as well be illiterate. Here's my own story, at my friends school an outside organization is paying $1000 dollars to any student who narcs (anything from alcohol to pot) on any other student (that's right). This program is a partnership between the school and the organization. I'm outraged.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:30 am
VashZero5 Libertarian2008 Who cares if they kill themselves, as long as the survivors are smarter... What happened to personal responsability? If a parent can't get there kids to go to school, without goverment interference, then that kid has problems anyway, and maybe we dont want him in school. Personally, I think way to many jobs require a high school education. I'm on the fast track where I work and the only thing I ever use from highschool is ROTC and weight training. THE POINT IS THAT SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE MANDITORY. People who are forced against their will to learn will in fact....not learn, making the whole process a complete waste of money. High School is not for everyone, some people just need to pick up a trade. I personally don't care if America becomes illerate, for then I'll be a genius, and that would fun lol. Besides, the education in this country is going down the toilet. With the current quality of schools now, everyone might as well be illiterate. Here's my own story, at my friends school an outside organization is paying $1000 dollars to any student who narcs (anything from alcohol to pot) on any other student (that's right). This program is a partnership between the school and the organization. I'm outraged. man, if my school had that i could've made some cash....(a kid in my school almost killed someone by selling her bad drugs...her p***y boyfriend didn't even kick the dealers a**)
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:00 pm
Libertarian2008 VashZero5 Libertarian2008 Who cares if they kill themselves, as long as the survivors are smarter... What happened to personal responsability? If a parent can't get there kids to go to school, without goverment interference, then that kid has problems anyway, and maybe we dont want him in school. Personally, I think way to many jobs require a high school education. I'm on the fast track where I work and the only thing I ever use from highschool is ROTC and weight training. THE POINT IS THAT SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE MANDITORY. People who are forced against their will to learn will in fact....not learn, making the whole process a complete waste of money. High School is not for everyone, some people just need to pick up a trade. I personally don't care if America becomes illerate, for then I'll be a genius, and that would fun lol. Besides, the education in this country is going down the toilet. With the current quality of schools now, everyone might as well be illiterate. Here's my own story, at my friends school an outside organization is paying $1000 dollars to any student who narcs (anything from alcohol to pot) on any other student (that's right). This program is a partnership between the school and the organization. I'm outraged. man, if my school had that i could've made some cash....(a kid in my school almost killed someone by selling her bad drugs...her p***y boyfriend didn't even kick the dealers a**) Wow! I'm sure I can kick her bf's a**. I would kick his a** lol, for not kicking the dealers a**. He's supposed to defend her for christs sake.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:41 pm
Another issue to consider in this is the effect (complications) it could have on those who are homeschooling their children. Homeschooling law in Georgia denies the school district the right to oversee or otherwise stick their noses into homeschool business except in the matter of requiring a letter of intent from the parents each year, attendance records to be sent in monthly, and administering a standardized test to check student progress every three years (which is too much nosing about, in my opinion, but that's another topic). Just imagine the abuses a anti-homeschooling school board or superintendent could visit on homeschooling families in their district with this law.
This could turn out to be very ugly indeed...
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:48 am
VashZero5 Libertarian2008 VashZero5 Libertarian2008 Who cares if they kill themselves, as long as the survivors are smarter... What happened to personal responsability? If a parent can't get there kids to go to school, without goverment interference, then that kid has problems anyway, and maybe we dont want him in school. Personally, I think way to many jobs require a high school education. I'm on the fast track where I work and the only thing I ever use from highschool is ROTC and weight training. THE POINT IS THAT SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE MANDITORY. People who are forced against their will to learn will in fact....not learn, making the whole process a complete waste of money. High School is not for everyone, some people just need to pick up a trade. I personally don't care if America becomes illerate, for then I'll be a genius, and that would fun lol. Besides, the education in this country is going down the toilet. With the current quality of schools now, everyone might as well be illiterate. Here's my own story, at my friends school an outside organization is paying $1000 dollars to any student who narcs (anything from alcohol to pot) on any other student (that's right). This program is a partnership between the school and the organization. I'm outraged. man, if my school had that i could've made some cash....(a kid in my school almost killed someone by selling her bad drugs...her p***y boyfriend didn't even kick the dealers a**) Wow! I'm sure I can kick her bf's a**. I would kick his a** lol, for not kicking the dealers a**. He's supposed to defend her for christs sake. I know. I told him he was a p***y and I ratted the dealer out.
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:13 am
VashZero5 Shinobi_1977 Exactly. Let the stupid be stupid if they want. In my America, there'd be no welfare. Let them starve. It's not anyone else's problem. mmmmhmmmm. I like Michaels badnariks look on it, welfare is legalized theft. Would it be okay if someone robbed you for health care money? Indeed. Damn lazy SOBs
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:57 am
griffinox VashZero5 Shinobi_1977 Exactly. Let the stupid be stupid if they want. In my America, there'd be no welfare. Let them starve. It's not anyone else's problem. mmmmhmmmm. I like Michaels badnariks look on it, welfare is legalized theft. Would it be okay if someone robbed you for health care money? Indeed. Damn lazy SOBs I like Gary Nolan's quote better. "With administration fees nd beurocracy it'd be cheaper if they just came into my house and took fifty dollars from my wallet than getting it from the government, of course, that wouldn't work, becasue im a strong believer in the 2nd ammendment"
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:59 pm
Libertarian2008 griffinox VashZero5 Shinobi_1977 Exactly. Let the stupid be stupid if they want. In my America, there'd be no welfare. Let them starve. It's not anyone else's problem. mmmmhmmmm. I like Michaels badnariks look on it, welfare is legalized theft. Would it be okay if someone robbed you for health care money? Indeed. Damn lazy SOBs I like Gary Nolan's quote better. "With administration fees nd beurocracy it'd be cheaper if they just came into my house and took fifty dollars from my wallet than getting it from the government, of course, that wouldn't work, becasue im a strong believer in the 2nd ammendment" HAHA!!!! YES I like that one better too.
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:59 am
it was sad, becasue the reporter was like "What?" and he had to tell her "the right to bear arms"
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