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 Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:08 pm
My question is 'Must heterosexual members of society be understanding and compasionate towards people of a homosexual lifestyle in order to live in harmony'?
My answer would be no. Straight people should not and must not be expected to conform to a certain level of understanding. The bottom line is tolerance. No one has any tolerance anymore. The littlest dent in the day could send somebody off the edge. There used to be a time when people would just shut up and dealt with one another for the sake of one another's sanity. I just think that it's a bit pissy to say that a straight person is homophobic because he or she doesn't condone or believe in the possability of a homosexual lifestyle.
I happen to be bisexual so I come from both ends of the arguement when I say I'm getting a little tired of some of this homosexual propaganda. For example, every year in San Francisco the homosexual community has a Gay Pride Parade. I have no problem with the parade itself. In fact I encourage it. What I don't encourage are men parading around in G-string and fetish wear when they know damn well that young children are probably in the area. I understand some of the things they wear are part of the gay culture, but for Christ Sake, they could use some disgression.
So what do you think? Must straights be forced to adapt to the homosexual culture and lifestyle? Or could everyone tone down their attitudes a bit and learn to tolerate one another for their remander of life on this planet?
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:17 pm
Tolerance is alien to people now-a-days.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:36 pm
On the contrary people are very tolerant. Where were you in history class when they talked about post-slavery days? And gay people? Hah they were hardly even mentioned let alone tolerated.
I dont think people lack or feel forced into tolerance I think we're living in a time of change. There are going to be a lot of people who get pushed over the edge because there are a lot of both moderates and extremists. I see a lot of evidence of extremism dying out though. Thats why I say homosexuals are the new black people. They're following the same sort of path.
Also while I know not everyone is exactly tolerant black people, their standard of living has improved severely and most people I've met are not racist and deem them as respectable people. I think people are taught acceptance over time. They dont have to be forced into it against their will.
ps yeah my user id is a joke : P
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:55 am
Gonna agree with BHM. Today is much better than in the past when it comes to tolerance, at least in America and a few other countries. *shrugs* Many should count themselves lucky for one time in the past, many would either be lynched, shot, or worse.
As for straights having to be forced to adapt to homo ******** it. How I see it, the gays that go about prancing like a fairy about their sexuality like its a title are nothing more than attention whore. You all know the ones I'm talking about. The ones who are running around in the G-string and the S&M gear in public because they believe it is "their right". Bullshit. I don't see some hot chick in Domintrix gear running around during Bondage month. Pssh. Now I'm not saying all gays are stupid attention whores. I have many friends who aren't like that. So I got nothing against gays.
But if you really ask me, if gays really want to be accepted into this culture, they need to tone their s**t down. When I talk to someone, I don't bring up the fact I'm straight, so why must they bring up the fact they're gay? Do I care? So in other words, how I see it, it isn't the straights that need to tone down and begin to act accordingly, but homosexuals, especially the flamboiant ones.
As for peace coming to this planet with tolerance...good luck. As long as there are two folks with two different belief, idea, or thought, there will never be tolerance. We are creatures who recognize our individualism and fiercely protect that right to be who we are. We can tolerate, but many don't want to. Those who don't, won't change. Only way many will change if you force change to them. In the end, you'll get your hands dirty and your just cause is now a narrow-minded genocide. *shrugs* That's just humans are.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:30 am
What if heterosexual men had a parade about the attractiveness of women, the acceptability of different kinds of sex with them, etc? It would be totally unacceptable. A "Women are Hot And I Like them Sexually" parade? Same thing with women regarding men. Yet with gay men or lesbians, it's closed-mindedness to take issue with it.
This is what bothers me about the whole thing... The double-standard. Tolerance is a good thing, but every group that wants to be tolerated doesn't need to start a culture war and flaunt themselves; that isn't the way to go. Honestly, the homosexual side should take their own advice and realize that their sexuality is their own decision and nobody's business, not parade about it and loudly demand that it be acceptable to want to screw who they want to screw.
The heterosexuals, of course, should also stop being pigs about the entire issue xD.
I just don't see why there's an issue, and I wish people would stop screaming and carrying on about it ><.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:04 pm
I guess it depends where you live, but I live in Florida, and it's pretty much a mini melting pot. Most people here tolerate homosexuality and different colored people fine. I wouldn't even call it toleration... it's just natural. Compared to decades before, our country has definitely become more and more tolerable to homosexuality, and I see no reason why we would start to revert back.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:24 pm
I pretty much agree with Kiitana.
I promote tolerance for pretty much everything (except extreme things that are about violence and hate and such. I'm not really for that) I think people should be tolerant; they do not have to accept things happening around them but they can at least tolerate other people doing what they choose especially when it doesn't affect them. It's like you may not be accepting of someone talking about their religion or speaking about something that is against your opinion, but you should still tolerate the freedom they have to express themselves. You can always still voice your own opinion as well.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:09 pm
Funny...I live in Vermont, and I'd say just about the same thing as Stella Scure did. (Of course, that could be from the whole "most liberal state in the country" thing. But I digress.) Except not the different colored people thing--we don't have enough racial diversity for me to say we're tolerant of it.
kiitana, I would disagree with you a little--but not much. I would say that there has to be a certain degree of compassion and understanding. However, I certainly agree that things can only bend so far before they'll break. There has to be compassion and understanding on both sides, or nothing will ever get resolved. That means that while the heterosexual part of society could do with being more respectful towards the rights of homosexual people, the homosexual part of society does need to show a little more discretion. I mean, us heterosexual girls don't go out in thongs and wet "I like Guyzzz" t-shirts and parade up and down the streets of New York City. Unless I missed that memo...
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:41 am
As another Floridian I can say while it's mostly true about our melting pot structure we still do have the hate groups down here, last year for example we had a neo-nazi march in Orlando. As for the tolerance here I think it's settled to down right indifference, to where it's not an active effort and it just happens as day after day cements the community.
However that isnt to say everything's hunky doorey in Florida; there are still quite a few homophobic religious types (southern baptists in particular)
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:02 pm
I agree, most people can't understand something they haven't experienced, so I think it is nearly impossible to expect.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:47 pm
Menidos What if heterosexual men had a parade about the attractiveness of women, the acceptability of different kinds of sex with them, etc? It would be totally unacceptable. A "Women are Hot And I Like them Sexually" parade? Same thing with women regarding men. Yet with gay men or lesbians, it's closed-mindedness to take issue with it. I don't think I ever would have come up with the "Women are Hot and I Like Them Sexually" parade. It definitely gives a new perspective on things.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Actually, I think comprehending is a key element of coexistence. Whether or not you agree with something, you should at least be able to see the opposing point of view. I think it's just closed-mindedness to be wholly unable to understand the logic in certain situations. How much discrimination actually stems from a grounded opinion?
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:35 pm
I personally think people should just forget it and act like it's an everyday thing. My mother is a lesbian herself, and she came out when I was young. So really, my whole life revolved around sexual prefferences, but really, I don't mind it at all.
So what if you're gay? Whooptee freakin' doo. xd
To me, that's like coming out and saying something along the lines of;
"Mom...dad... I.. I love apple pie instead of strawberry! gonk "
Yeah. How shocking. rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:17 pm
Awesome ideas on this thread, it is a good one.
Yes I agree that people on both sides are attention whores. I find oftentimes the ones who dress up innapropriately are doing so in the hopes that people will complain, so they can talk about how they're being discriminated against, much like trolls in a forum.
The modern idea seems to be, "People should accept everyone's lifestyle and opinions, and anyone who doesn't is wrong and I hate them"
Kind of a double standard isn't it?
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