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zonic69

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:31 am


so im reading the newspaper down in australia right

and i read something about an mexican female having a relationship with another women. It was something about a court manner regrading "lesbian mothers can not raise children" cause they are scared that they might grow up turning gay.
So the judge gave the woman a choice.
Break the relation with her gay partner or lose their kid

o.o
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:59 pm


A study has already pr oven that gay parents actually make better parents then straight one. The judge is just being homophobic and she can simply move to Canada and be able to keep all rights for what that judge is doing is discrimination and is down right stupid.

jaa ne

Kat

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:03 pm


Kims_Prince
A study has already pr oven that gay parents actually make better parents then straight one. The judge is just being homophobic and she can simply move to Canada and be able to keep all rights for what that judge is doing is discrimination and is down right stupid.

jaa ne

Kat


I'm not surprised about the statistics you just stated. It definitely makes sense. I mean, gay parents are alot more intuitive and caring with their partner, and when your close to your partner, your kid can feel that.

heart
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:43 am


An interesting case.

Kat, could you link me to the study about gay parenting? It would come in handy in certain debates against one Mr Bill Muehlenberg. Met him? Read his blog if you feel like getting angry. He's an awful essayist, but it's fun to read for kicks.

He says fun things like this:
Quote:
Indeed, it could be argued that all children born in various alternative lifestyle arrangements are also part of a stolen generation. Kids deliberatly brought into single parent homes, or same-sex relationships, are being deprived of one of the two most important people in their lives. I hope our concern for the well being of children, and the overwhelming importance of them being raised by their own mother and a father, is not limited to just certain groups in Australia, such as Aboriginals.


For those who don't know, the stolen generation were Aboriginal children removed from their parents and institutionalised by white 'Australians' in the not-so-distant past.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:35 pm


Here you are:

http://www.xtra.ca/public/viewstory.aspx?AFF_TYPE=1&STORY_ID=3049&PUB_TEMPLATE_ID=7

It is just a news article about the study and its findings. Someone hide the findings so it could not be presented to support gay marriage in Canada, but the lack of it did not effect things much. It is just sad that people feel they much stoop to hiding information so they can win a debate. *sighs*

jaa ne

Kat
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:50 am


Kims_Prince
Here you are:

http://www.xtra.ca/public/viewstory.aspx?AFF_TYPE=1&STORY_ID=3049&PUB_TEMPLATE_ID=7

It is just a news article about the study and its findings. Someone hide the findings so it could not be presented to support gay marriage in Canada, but the lack of it did not effect things much. It is just sad that people feel they much stoop to hiding information so they can win a debate. *sighs*

jaa ne

Kat


Thanks for that!!

If you're interested, here's some of the research Mr Muehlenberg has coughed up for the opposition:

Quote:
Family Research
A bibliography compiled by Bill Muehlenberg
Revised, August 2007


There has been an enormous amount of social science research over the past four decades documenting the importance of marriage, fatherhood and the two-parent family. So much evidence is now available that summaries of the documentation are necessary. The following volumes seek to do just that. They gather together in a single volume the many studies that show the importance of fathers, of families, and of marriage.


General Research

Blackenhorn, David, Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem. New York: Basic Books, 1995.

Christensen, Bryce, ed., When Families Fail…. The Social Costs. Lanham, MD.: The University Press of America, 1991.

O’Neill, Rebecca, Does Marriage Matter? London: Civitas, 2004.

Doherty, William, et. al., Why Marriage Matters: Twenty-One Conclusions from the Social Sciences. New York: Institute for American Values, 2002.

Horn, Wade and Tom Sylvester, Father Facts, 5th ed. Gaithersburg, MD.: National Fatherhood Initiative, 2007.

Logan, Bruce, Waking Up to Marriage. Auckland: Maxim Institute, 2004.

Maher, Bridget, ed., The Family Portrait: A Compilation of Data, Research and Public Opinion on the Family, 2nd ed. Washington, D.C.: Family Research Council, 2002, 2004.

Stanton, Glenn, Why Marriage Matters. Pinon Press, 1997.

Waite, Linda and Maggie Gallagher, The Case for Marriage. New York: Doubleday, 2000.


Australian Research

The following summaries include a lot of the overseas findings (especially the American and British research) but also include as much Australian data as possible.

Muehlenberg, Bill, The Benefits of Marriage. Melbourne: revised, 2007.

Muehlenberg, Bill, The Case for the Two-Parent Family. Melbourne: revised, 2007.

Muehlenberg, Bill, The Facts on Fatherlessness. Melbourne: revised, 2007.

Muehlenberg, Bill, William Doherty, et. al., Twenty-One Reasons Why Marriage Matters. Wollongong, NSW: National Marriage Coalition, 2004.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:19 am


Unless he is going to claim that being a single parent is against the law then he has no leg to stand on. That is how it came to end out here. If single parents can raise a kid fine then gay parents can as well. He can argue all he likes about what he things, but when one looks as the way the world is turning he is a fish who is soon to be out of his waters.

Anyways, I find these kind of people backwater and need to wake up to the modern times. We are no longer in the biblical ages. Hell I had no family what so every and look how I turned out. I'm an activist, a writer and I help gay youth out in my spare time. My parent caused me more problems then being alone did. So he should take a look at how much parents cause dysfunctional lifestyles instead of attacking gays. *sighs*

Anyways, I'm going to stop before I start ranting agian.

jaa ne

Kat
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:40 am


zonic69
so im reading the newspaper down in australia right

and i read something about an mexican female having a relationship with another women. It was something about a court manner regrading "lesbian mothers can not raise children" cause they are scared that they might grow up turning gay.
So the judge gave the woman a choice.
Break the relation with her gay partner or lose their kid

o.o

thats very ******** up! and most lesbian's like me take offence to this!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:28 am


You don't need a dad to make a kid happy. Why just look at me....^___^!! My dad was a drunk then they got divorced and almost never saw him...I turned out great.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:42 pm


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You don't need a dad to make a kid happy. Why just look at me....^___^!! My dad was a drunk then they got divorced and almost never saw him...I turned out great.

Exactly.
I would have been better off without male influences in my life. talk2hand
My dads an a** and his father molested me.
I probably would have liked men if not for them. neutral

Gay parentes definatly have more love.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:20 pm


Kt-Chi
Takara_Ashley
You don't need a dad to make a kid happy. Why just look at me....^___^!! My dad was a drunk then they got divorced and almost never saw him...I turned out great.

Exactly.
I would have been better off without male influences in my life. talk2hand
My dads an a** and his father molested me.
I probably would have liked men if not for them. neutral

Gay parentes definatly have more love.

yeah see exactly...most men are just brutes, not all. sorry to hear about your past.
and i love your siggy.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:55 pm


Kims_Prince
A study has already pr oven that gay parents actually make better parents then straight one. The judge is just being homophobic and she can simply move to Canada and be able to keep all rights for what that judge is doing is discrimination and is down right stupid.

jaa ne

Kat
I wish I had this kind of proof when I was writiting a paper at school. I usually score perfectly on those things, I scored well, however I'm sure if I put down more facts and such I would have done just as well as I had with other papers. Where did you get this sort of information?

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Tanuki_kookie

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:01 am


That's horrible! I don't know what I'd do, it's so completly wrong.
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