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IcarusDream

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:38 am


What is it?

Distinctions may be made into the purpose of living (continuing to live the way we do, what is the purpose of our lives?) and the purpose of being (pretty much, why we exist).

Self-indulgence is what I always tell people that I think it is because...

There really isn't a (known) purpose to our existence, but for our lives we set our own purpose.

And since any voluntary action is a purposeful and intentional act, there is a purpose to any creature that makes a voluntary act.

Any creature that acts voluntarily fulfills the intentions and purposes behind the act.

Every creature has their own purposes, but the purpose of action is to fulfill their goals and purposes.

Therefore, with the purpose of one's fulfillment set into any voluntary act, we all share the same distinction of having set for ourselves a purpose of self-fulfillment.

Fulfilling yourself is done to whatever end that you desire, therefore I use a similar term, self-indulgence.


What do you think?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:16 pm


I think that the purpose of life is to learn from our experiences and decisions.

That's just me though.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:48 pm


Its purpose is what you make it just as reality is what you make of it. However the vast majority of people that I believe likely exist outside of my perception seem to generally be motivated by the idea of "happiness", however misguided their attempts may be.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:17 am


Some would say the purpose of life is to suffer. I don't know how true that is, but sometimes it seems likely. I don't believe there is any higher purpose to our lives. I think we all kind of make it up as we go, and search for meaning where there is none.

edit: That sounded terribly emo. sweatdrop

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LadyDarcia

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:20 pm


Purpose for me always meant Divine purpose. Since I don't believe in a higher being, I would say there is no purpose.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:24 pm


Obscurus
I think that the purpose of life is to learn from our experiences and decisions.

That's just me though.


Why?

The Resurrection
Its purpose is what you make it just as reality is what you make of it. However the vast majority of people that I believe likely exist outside of my perception seem to generally be motivated by the idea of "happiness", however misguided their attempts may be.


And if purpose is what you make of it, every one shares the common makings of self-fulfillment.

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I don't believe there is any higher purpose to our lives. I think we all kind of make it up as we go, and search for meaning where there is none.


Well, there is none that we can know of. Since we essentially do make it up as we go, any purpose we set for ourselves carries the inherent meaning of self-fulfillment. Even if our purpose is to be just for the hell of it, we are fulfilling the being for the self set purpose of doing something just for the hell of it.

LadyDarcia
Purpose for me always meant Divine purpose. Since I don't believe in a higher being, I would say there is no purpose.


No purpose, there is no reason that you do anything, there is not constant drive, there is nothing? You didn't post that for a reason? There was nothing driving you? You didn't set any reason for doing it? Of course you did, even if you did it just for the hell of it, is that not a reason for doing it? Something set your purpose, even if it was you.

And if you set your purpose, then you were performing an act of self-fulfillment in the inherent way that all our goals are set and all voluntary acts carry the same purpose of being fulfilled. And thus, all creatures who have the capacity for voluntary action have the common purpose of self-indulgence or fulfillment.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:29 pm


IcarusDream
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I think that the purpose of life is to learn from our experiences and decisions.

That's just me though.


Why?


Because I believe that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, and that the whole point for physical incarnation is to learn and grow.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:30 pm


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I think that the purpose of life is to learn from our experiences and decisions.

That's just me though.


Why?


Because I believe that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, and that the whole point for physical incarnation is to learn and grow.


What school of thought does that come from? Or are you making your own conclusions?

If the latter, what makes you think that we are spiritual beings?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:28 pm


IcarusDream
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IcarusDream
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I think that the purpose of life is to learn from our experiences and decisions.

That's just me though.


Why?


Because I believe that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, and that the whole point for physical incarnation is to learn and grow.


What school of thought does that come from? Or are you making your own conclusions?

If the latter, what makes you think that we are spiritual beings?


A little bit of Buddhism, but mostly an eclectic view on spirituality.

My personal experiences makes me think that I am a spiritual being. I can only assume that's the case for all other human beings.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:34 pm


IcarusDream
LadyDarcia
Purpose for me always meant Divine purpose. Since I don't believe in a higher being, I would say there is no purpose.


No purpose, there is no reason that you do anything, there is not constant drive, there is nothing? You didn't post that for a reason? There was nothing driving you? You didn't set any reason for doing it? Of course you did, even if you did it just for the hell of it, is that not a reason for doing it? Something set your purpose, even if it was you.


You are speaking of the purpose of my actions, not my existence, or that of all life. As I believe that life came into existence by chance, there was no thought process by any being who created it with an idea in mind. For something to have been created with a purpose, made for a specific reason and expected to carry out a specific function, the idea must stem from a sentient being who then creates said purposeful thing. True, evolution results in new body structures that have a specific function to help the organism survive, but that is with the assumption that life already exists, so it does not apply to nonlife --> life.

LadyDarcia


Atomic Sky

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:36 am


It doesn't have or need a purpose.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:22 pm


My purpose is speed. It's what drives me, it's what makes me happy, it's what I'm good at. Many might not think that's an appropriate purpose, or meaning, but enough for me.

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IcarusDream

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:41 pm


LadyDarcia
You are speaking of the purpose of my actions, not my existence, or that of all life.


You made no distinction between whether you were speaking of the purpose of living or the purpose of being. Most of us here don't proclaim to know why we exist, only that we do and we say what we think our purpose of living is. I use living in the sense of just existing, not why we came into existence, but what is the purpose after we exist.

I spoke of the purpose of living in the OP.

Lady Darcia
As I believe that life came into existence by chance, there was no thought process by any being who created it with an idea in mind. For something to have been created with a purpose, made for a specific reason and expected to carry out a specific function, the idea must stem from a sentient being who then creates said purposeful thing.


Which raises the question, do you believe in a Primal Cause, or as I and the Ockhamists say, the Primal Conserver (that most call God)?

Atomic Sky
It doesn't have or need a purpose.


X'd out the purpose of being most have.

What is the purpose of living then? Why don't we just kill ourselves?

Genura
My purpose is speed. It's what drives me, it's what makes me happy, it's what I'm good at. Many might not think that's an appropriate purpose, or meaning, but enough for me.


Ah, but then is not your purpose simply self-indulgence? Indulging yourself with the fulfillment of your goals, speed of which is prime to you.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:58 am


This question shows just how human you are. The ignorance of humans makes us always question "why" or what is the purpose. Because humans care about nothing but productivity so everything to us needs to have a purpose or an end goal or we cannot understand the point of it. Life is not a simple object it doesn't have a "point' the real goal is for the person living it to decide.

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